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50hz vs 60hz
Fuck that slow motion bullshit
7 (29.1%)
50hz players are big cheater
3 (12.5%)
60hz players have bigger dicks
9 (37.5%)
Andrew Math got fucked by Tylius Luvitar
5 (20.8%)
Total votes: 24
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A case against 50Hz (Read 2216 times)
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Re: A case against 50Hz
Reply #100 -
05/11/22 at 00:37:51
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Also just because 60hz dominated the last years, doesn't mean 50hz can't get it back. That's survivorship bias and also would mean that nothing should be adjusted until it's "too late".
That really is some bullshit man, you act like there were no 60hz players ever able to compete with 50hz players in the old days. I literally became world champion, beating one of the best 50hz players of all time who played the game in 50hz since 2004. I find the notion that 50hz is going to come back and totally dominate the charts to be completely ridiculous. The fact that I beat out all the top 50hz shows its doable in 60hz and that the advantage isn't insurmountable, its small. All you are accomplishing is spreading division. Who give a fuck if someone plays in 50hz, let them play the game and have fun and stop obsessing over tiny details like a fuckin nerd.
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Re: A case against 50Hz
Reply #101 -
05/11/22 at 03:30:43
Stephen De Winter wrote
on 05/10/22 at 15:24:26:
@Ultimarkh while we disagree about whether 50Hz is easier, harder or level playing field, I wasn't going to respond to you anymore but want to acknowledge I had the wrong interpretation about what you said.
I 'assumed' you meant 'I' also had an agenda to ban 50Hz. If you are telling the truth in 'not' accusing me, I am wrong. For this, I am sorry
All good
I realize my wording wasn't crystal clear indeed.
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Reply #102 -
05/11/22 at 08:28:24
@Ultimarkh cool
I don't drink alcohol but it was really nice reading your post
Misunderstandings happen all the time, especially with forums and add to the fact we've never spoken before, we don't know how the other person thinks or speaks. This only creates further misunderstandings plus I have Autism Spectrum Disorder born and diagnosed to add further miscommunication between myself and others but all good
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Reply #103 -
05/11/22 at 09:53:00
I suppose I'll reply to the following to make it a bit clear
mmmtd wrote
on 05/10/22 at 22:18:48:
My feeling with separating them by getting rid of the combined charts would be that 50Hz would either gain attraction or totally lose it, while 60Hz would stay the main way to play the game. Would top players who only play 60Hz even bother driving a 50Hz timesheet for example?
For that news thing of mentionning both the overall rank and Hz rank, what would you do if someone plays both to a similar level? Should both be marked? But then that makes too many ranks. Or maybe the better one? But 17th in 60Hz is higher level than in 17th in 50Hz.
I'm honestly fine with any solution. You bring up a good argument for people with both sheets, so maybe we should stick to main combined ranking first, then doing something like #50 Real Name (
#20
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#21
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As for if I were to drive 50hz if it got more separate, yes I'd honestly be more interested myself in playing 50hz as to me it would mean more
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Reply #104 -
05/12/22 at 08:26:34
m8 when is Goomba 32/32 50Hz records?
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Reply #105 -
05/12/22 at 17:49:12
This thread was an open and shut case months ago. No idea why this was revived not once but twice now, but I guess Goomba and co. really want to further their agenda and keep drawing new attention to this issue.
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@ndrew wrote
on 05/11/22 at 00:37:51:
Who give a fuck if someone plays in 50hz, let them play the game and have fun and stop obsessing over tiny details like a fuckin nerd.
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Reply #106 -
05/12/22 at 18:04:29
I thought Parsi started this one
Also quite hard to take you seriously when the n word is under the message
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Reply #107 -
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WAZZUPYOSHI wrote
on 05/12/22 at 17:49:12:
This thread was an open and shut case months ago. No idea why this was revived not once but twice now, but I guess Goomba and co. really want to further their agenda and keep drawing new attention to this issue.
Business as usual in kart.
Ye I bumped it so more ppl would look at it lel
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Re: A case against 50Hz
Reply #108 -
05/20/22 at 07:31:31
Just my 2 cents from MK64 perspective.
We had a similar problem. NTSC vs PAL debate was part of the community since day 1. Nowadays everyone are finally tired of it.
Our solution was, just buy what ever system you find better and that is it. I think this is the best solution.
There are 2 main differences though:
1. pal players can not switch to ntsc like they can on mkdd
2. you need to buy other systems (NTSC JAP 1.0) to be competitive in SCs anyway
So we have no option to choose easily on which system to play like MKDD euro crowd and we are used to buying other systems anyway.
In the lower ranks it is not that important, so the idea is to just make it as easy as possible for people to enjoy the game with what they have and not worry about anything. Same reason we don't require any vids from the lower ranked people either.
As for the higher end of the rankings, to get there you need to invest quite a lot of time. If you have done that, you love the game and want to keep playing and improving, buying the other setup shouldn't be a problem for you.
The complaining and arguing about this for years doesn't bring anything good. NTSC players kept saying they have an significant disadvantage which crated frustration on both sides and resulted in lower activity.
Imagine coming to the site and people keep telling you - oh you play NTSC, you have an significant disadvantage. Then you just pick another game or just blame the system for every unreached goal and it is an downward spiral from there.
Just for the reference, imo, you shouldn't think about this at all until you reach top 100 and should think about it seriously when you reach top 50 in MK64.
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