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How to best submit ghost data
06/12/21 at 11:23:07
 
I think it would be beneficial if players started submitting ghost data more regularly.

This would accomplish 2 things,
1 It would make standards of proof much better and
2 It would allow players to easily race against stronger ghosts, to improve their skills.

As such I believe there should be a standard format for uploading ghosts (prefered filehost, etc.) and a place to collect them, as well as tutorials for adding them to or copying them from memory cards.

Does this exist in any capacity yet and am I just overlooking it, or do we need to start it? Does anybody but me care about this?
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Re: How to best submit ghost data
Reply #1 - 06/12/21 at 13:02:41
 
I began typing this response thinking I was going 2 challenge your opinion. As I typed this, I realised my opinion might not make sense, (I disagree with my first opinion possibly). I am too confused. Not sure what I think entirely and I talk a lot of irrelevant stuff trying 2 stay on topic. Just letting people know they might not want 2 read what I said. I am trying 2 contribute my opinions on what's fair but am learning, I don't know enough.

Not sure if u r recommending the community uses ghosts when proving PRs or recommending it b mandatory for proofs of PRs use ghosts. Not sure.

I can't race my ghosts and get new PRs simultaneously. I can video prove future PRs raced in 50Hz without ghost data. I feel WAY TOO MUCH pressure seeing my own ghost race me and it messes me up big TIME.

I am ranked #292 in AnyHz so competitors might not care about seeing proof from me anyway.

But ghosts really mess me up when I race them. Too much pressure. I can't focus. Plus racing with or without ghosts is possible with vanilla version of the game so no wrong is done by competitors without ghosts in their proof videos. The vanilla game doesn't require ghosts b used and proof can still b good without ghosts. Not that I know much about proof standards. I just make proof regularly 4 my scores in different games.

Not sure if u r suggesting ghosts r a good idea or if u r suggesting, ghosts b mandatory 4 proof, (I have interpretation limitations). I don't think ghosts should b mandatory 2 b used in videos. This is because the vanilla game let's u turn them off and u can prove scores without them.

In honesty, there's a problem with my argument.

I recommend the site makes video proof use the game's audio without any hacks 2 the audio but that messes up other competitors, not me. Where as, I don't wanna use ghosts 2 prove my PRs because ghosts mess me up. It sounds like ghosts help verify PRs. If I am 2 argue, competitors should play with the game's unmodified audio being heard in the video proof, I understand people expecting people 2 use ghosts in their video proof 4 better proof in both cases.

I am ranked #292 in AnyHz so might not b an issue 4 me having 2 video prove my scores racing my own ghost.

If it wasn't 4 audio messing up some competitors and my own ghosts messing me up as well, I'd definitely argue ghosts shouldn't b mandatory 4 proof and the proper unmodified audio should b mandatory. But both volume and ghosts can b utiilised or not in the vanilla version so I have no arguement.

Perhaps I won't have 2 prove my PRs with ghosts due 2 my ranking in the future because it won't get too much better than it already is. I can still improve a moderate amount but not that much more. No huge jump 2 overall Titan or anything of that nature. I have used a lot of my potential already.

Really, if playing vanilla MKDD!! ghosts and audio can BOTH assist in detecting whether video proof is real or fake PRs than they should probably both b mandatory 4 people required 2 prove their scores BOTH ghosts and audio within the vanilla version.

I don't want 2 pretend 2 know much as I really don't. I keep talking my opinions down due 2 lack of expertise. Just being honest. All these hacks I've never used or heard of until recently and am learning about the impacts 4 the first time ever. Too many complications 4 me 2 b confident in my arguments on this topic.
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Re: How to best submit ghost data
Reply #2 - 06/12/21 at 14:01:09
 
I'm not saying you have to race your own ghosts, just that it might be a good idea to save the ghost after the race and submit the ghost file along with the video. I don't know how everyone else feels about the difficulty of exporting the ghost files and uploading them, but for me I don't think it's much trouble, and is far easier than a video for me due to my poor internet connection.

In any case  I was wondering if anyone was interested in putting together some sort of system to make it easy to search for, upload, and download ghost files, as I feel like that would be the first step in making them a more typical form of proof.
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Reply #3 - 06/12/21 at 14:52:58
 
Thanks 4 clarifying what u meant.

I have interpretation difficulties from my condition, High Functioning Autism.

Yeah, saving ghosts is very easy if u have adequate memory in your memory card which I'd assume a lot of us do.

The rest of this post is very irrelevant 2 the topic. I am just trying 2 say that I don't have 50Hz ghosts because I didn't know they could help me verify my PRs so I never bothered saving them unfortunatelySad again it's very irrelevant the rest of this, (my words down below). Not on purpose, I struggle 2 know how relevant things r 2 topics discussed.

Eventhough I have more than enough blocks of memory, (past and present) 4 some reason, (I don't remember why as it was WAY BACK in 2011,) I decided 2 save my TT ghosts in 60Hz but not 50Hz.

I don't know why I decided 2 do this, (save my 60Hz ghosts and not my 50Hz ghosts) but, I didn't think it was important 4 me 2 save any of my ghosts just all my PRs in both categories I thought was necessary 2 save to two different memory cards. 4 some reason I saved my 60Hz ghosts but not 50Hz ghosts.

Also, I decided not 2 save my best 60Hz 7lap PR as a ghost, I don't remember why as it was ages ago. Like many, many, many years ago.

Plus more recently, the minority of my 60Hz ghosts have the wrong date on them. I think they r Rainbow Road and DK Mountain. I purchased a second hand GameCube, forgot 2 set the date on it b4 playing games on it. So a minority of my ghosts have the wrong date. Again my Baby Park ghost is worse than my 60Hz PR.

I don't know how 2 communicate or socialise. I don't mean 2 b inconsiderate or rude by providing long irrelevant words. Sorry if I was rude or inconsiderate.
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Re: How to best submit ghost data
Reply #4 - 03/03/22 at 21:07:24
 
sorry im so late here lol, i think this would be awesome! especially if there were a convenient way to do it

i know MK64 has a google sheet for it that seems to work well for people, i can look into that

also Glitch A made this, im don't remember if anything was ever made of it though

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwrpfKZKGI0&ab_channel=EdTruncan
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Re: How to best submit ghost data
Reply #5 - 03/05/22 at 18:19:22
 
here i decided to make this, submit to your heart's content!

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iFaH-RfSzjV1pbR53KXtCCV983pLZMa0OBsrOoQn
dG8/edit?usp=sharing

i don't think many players will be super interested in sending in their ghosts, but i'll leave this here just in case

Edit: fuck, not sure why the link won't format properly Smiley whatever you can figure it out lol
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Reply #6 - 07/06/22 at 23:28:48
 
Robert McKinnon wrote on 03/03/22 at 21:07:24:
also Glitch A made this, im don't remember if anything was ever made of it though

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwrpfKZKGI0&ab_channel=EdTruncan

Nothing was ever made of it because even I forgot it existed until my brother mentioned it to me! Roll Eyes
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Re: How to best submit ghost data
Reply #7 - 07/23/22 at 11:32:41
 
Robert McKinnon wrote on 03/03/22 at 21:07:24:
sorry im so late here lol, i think this would be awesome! especially if there were a convenient way to do it

i know MK64 has a google sheet for it that seems to work well for people, i can look into that

also Glitch A made this, im don't remember if anything was ever made of it though

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwrpfKZKGI0&ab_channel=EdTruncan





Actually Robert, the link’s https://mkdd-ghost-database.webnode.co.uk/ The setup’s so confusing Andy. Could you make it simpler ‘cause I’m not into this techy sort.
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Re: How to best submit ghost data
Reply #8 - 07/24/22 at 09:56:03
 
Travis Callaghan wrote on 07/23/22 at 11:32:41:
Robert McKinnon wrote on 03/03/22 at 21:07:24:
sorry im so late here lol, i think this would be awesome! especially if there were a convenient way to do it

i know MK64 has a google sheet for it that seems to work well for people, i can look into that

also Glitch A made this, im don't remember if anything was ever made of it though

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwrpfKZKGI0&ab_channel=EdTruncan





Actually Robert, the link’s https://mkdd-ghost-database.webnode.co.uk/ The setup’s so confusing Andy. Could you make it simpler ‘cause I’m not into this techy sort.

I could completely overhaul the website if you wish me to Wink
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Don't even try to explain to a mk speedrunner how mkw is somewhat comparable to their own game

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Re: How to best submit ghost data
Reply #9 - 07/24/22 at 09:59:37
 
Glitch A wrote on 07/24/22 at 09:56:03:
Travis Callaghan wrote on 07/23/22 at 11:32:41:
Robert McKinnon wrote on 03/03/22 at 21:07:24:
sorry im so late here lol, i think this would be awesome! especially if there were a convenient way to do it

i know MK64 has a google sheet for it that seems to work well for people, i can look into that

also Glitch A made this, im don't remember if anything was ever made of it though

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwrpfKZKGI0&ab_channel=EdTruncan





Actually Robert, the link’s https://mkdd-ghost-database.webnode.co.uk/ The setup’s so confusing Andy. Could you make it simpler ‘cause I’m not into this techy sort.

I could completely overhaul the website if you wish me to Wink




I have no idea what you’re talking about...
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Re: How to best submit ghost data
Reply #10 - 07/24/22 at 10:00:31
 
Travis Callaghan wrote on 07/24/22 at 09:59:37:
Glitch A wrote on 07/24/22 at 09:56:03:
Travis Callaghan wrote on 07/23/22 at 11:32:41:
Robert McKinnon wrote on 03/03/22 at 21:07:24:
sorry im so late here lol, i think this would be awesome! especially if there were a convenient way to do it

i know MK64 has a google sheet for it that seems to work well for people, i can look into that

also Glitch A made this, im don't remember if anything was ever made of it though

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwrpfKZKGI0&ab_channel=EdTruncan





Actually Robert, the link’s https://mkdd-ghost-database.webnode.co.uk/ The setup’s so confusing Andy. Could you make it simpler ‘cause I’m not into this techy sort.

I could completely overhaul the website if you wish me to Wink




I have no idea what you’re talking about...

Basically, clean up the site and maybe update my ghosts.
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Diamond wrote on 11/11/17 at 11:10:09:
Don't even try to explain to a mk speedrunner how mkw is somewhat comparable to their own game

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You know your community looks bad when even MKW does a better job at banning the people who have done undesirable actions
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Re: How to best submit ghost data
Reply #11 - 07/24/22 at 10:06:43
 
Glitch A wrote on 07/24/22 at 10:00:31:
Travis Callaghan wrote on 07/24/22 at 09:59:37:
Glitch A wrote on 07/24/22 at 09:56:03:
Travis Callaghan wrote on 07/23/22 at 11:32:41:
Robert McKinnon wrote on 03/03/22 at 21:07:24:
sorry im so late here lol, i think this would be awesome! especially if there were a convenient way to do it

i know MK64 has a google sheet for it that seems to work well for people, i can look into that

also Glitch A made this, im don't remember if anything was ever made of it though

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwrpfKZKGI0&ab_channel=EdTruncan





Actually Robert, the link’s https://mkdd-ghost-database.webnode.co.uk/ The setup’s so confusing Andy. Could you make it simpler ‘cause I’m not into this techy sort.

I could completely overhaul the website if you wish me to Wink




I have no idea what you’re talking about...

Basically, clean up the site and maybe update my ghosts.







OK, that makes much more sense now.
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