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Re: Forum Themed Mafia: Meme Extravaganza - Day 2
Reply #775 - 04/13/20 at 04:13:43

Hugo wrote on 04/13/20 at 04:11:44:

P.A.F.625 wrote on 04/13/20 at 04:06:56:

TvK wrote on 04/13/20 at 04:03:20:

P.A.F.625 wrote on 04/13/20 at 04:00:53:

Fuck it, at this point it's kinda obvious my ability was role scan.

So now that you've got that out of the way, what more can you tell us about ALAK?

He's his supposed role PM:

"Hi ALAKTORN! You are Kyle the Bagel, a Meutral Chaos Meme SPY! As meutral chaos meme SPY, your goal is to cast 730 votes and get another player modkilled actually for real without getting modkilled yourself! You win automatically if anyone gets modkilled, whether you were involved or not. If this isn’t possible you may also win by convincing everyone to lynch the host (me). At night you get to swap 2 players’ roles (priority 10). They will be notified of their role update but not to whom their role was transferred. If you try to switch a mafia with a not-mafia the switch will fail. You will not be notified whether your swap succeeded!"

I was thinking this wasn't the only role that could alter other roles. If TYG could role switch, then he got switched with ALAK. Maybe he switched himself with ALAK. I'm confused with his reply, don't think he's honest at all...

that looks like TYG's role lol, but priority 10 looks pretty low, wouldn't you see the description of the role Alak had BEFORE the switch? unless your priority is even lower?

Can confirm my priority is greater than 10, so either TYG is lying (this isn't his exact role PM as he claimed anyway) or there are other role-switchers... maybe both.

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Re: Forum Themed Mafia: Meme Extravaganza - Day 2
Reply #777 - 04/13/20 at 04:15:39

TvK wrote on 04/13/20 at 04:13:01:

P.A.F.625 wrote on 04/13/20 at 04:06:56:

TvK wrote on 04/13/20 at 04:03:20:

P.A.F.625 wrote on 04/13/20 at 04:00:53:

Fuck it, at this point it's kinda obvious my ability was role scan.

So now that you've got that out of the way, what more can you tell us about ALAK?

He's his supposed role PM:

"Hi ALAKTORN! You are Kyle the Bagel, a Meutral Chaos Meme SPY! As meutral chaos meme SPY, your goal is to cast 730 votes and get another player modkilled actually for real without getting modkilled yourself! You win automatically if anyone gets modkilled, whether you were involved or not. If this isn’t possible you may also win by convincing everyone to lynch the host (me). At night you get to swap 2 players’ roles (priority 10). They will be notified of their role update but not to whom their role was transferred. If you try to switch a mafia with a not-mafia the switch will fail. You will not be notified whether your swap succeeded!"

I was thinking this wasn't the only role that could alter other roles. If TYG could role switch, then he got switched with ALAK. Maybe he switched himself with ALAK. I'm confused with his reply, don't think he's honest at all...

Well, TYG claimed to be a Bagel (Kyle), exactly the same as in the first TvL TV report, and ALAK is Kyle the Bagel. They could be two similar but slightly different roles.

It was a TvK TV report, TvL is/was Broadcaster Extraordinaire. Though I too think that TvK and TvL are just one person.

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P.A.F.625 King Offline 3923 days karting Portugal Gender:	Re: Forum Themed Mafia: Meme Extravaganza - Day 2 Reply #778 - 04/13/20 at 04:16:56 Fuck, good point TvK... I fell for one of Leone's tricks fuckgkfg
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Re: Forum Themed Mafia: Meme Extravaganza - Day 2
Reply #779 - 04/13/20 at 04:17:14

TvK wrote on 04/13/20 at 04:13:01:

P.A.F.625 wrote on 04/13/20 at 04:06:56:

TvK wrote on 04/13/20 at 04:03:20:

P.A.F.625 wrote on 04/13/20 at 04:00:53:

Fuck it, at this point it's kinda obvious my ability was role scan.

So now that you've got that out of the way, what more can you tell us about ALAK?

He's his supposed role PM:

"Hi ALAKTORN! You are Kyle the Bagel, a Meutral Chaos Meme SPY! As meutral chaos meme SPY, your goal is to cast 730 votes and get another player modkilled actually for real without getting modkilled yourself! You win automatically if anyone gets modkilled, whether you were involved or not. If this isn’t possible you may also win by convincing everyone to lynch the host (me). At night you get to swap 2 players’ roles (priority 10). They will be notified of their role update but not to whom their role was transferred. If you try to switch a mafia with a not-mafia the switch will fail. You will not be notified whether your swap succeeded!"

I was thinking this wasn't the only role that could alter other roles. If TYG could role switch, then he got switched with ALAK. Maybe he switched himself with ALAK. I'm confused with his reply, don't think he's honest at all...

Well, TYG claimed to be a Bagel (Kyle), exactly the same as in the first TvL TV report, and ALAK is Kyle the Bagel. They could be two similar but slightly different roles.

I can't see Leone having the same forum member as two different roles, not when there are so many forum members to chose from to make roles on.

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Re: Forum Themed Mafia: Meme Extravaganza - Day 1
Reply #780 - 04/13/20 at 04:17:28

ALAKTORN wrote on 04/11/20 at 08:51:17:

Zwiebel wrote on 04/11/20 at 08:44:31:

I'm pretty sure tyg altered his role PM, dunno if just something small or if everything is a lie

I’m pretty sure TYG is stupid enough to have said like 90% of the truth throughout his game so far. I do mostly believe him. I’m down for a “host” (not Leone, tbh who the fuck even knows what his win con is for a vote) vote but I’m 100% certain it’s not gonna happen anyway as it requires everyone on board. lol

Also, this post after TYG claimed in full makes me believe ALAK had the Kyle the Bagel role from the beginning and it wasn't swapped. He also wants the Leone votes (he was the same win condition) and "TYG telling 90% of the truth" is probably because their roles are pretty much 90% similar.

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Re: Forum Themed Mafia: Meme Extravaganza - Day 1
Reply #781 - 04/13/20 at 04:19:03

TvK wrote on 04/13/20 at 04:17:28:

ALAKTORN wrote on 04/11/20 at 08:51:17:

Zwiebel wrote on 04/11/20 at 08:44:31:

I'm pretty sure tyg altered his role PM, dunno if just something small or if everything is a lie

I’m pretty sure TYG is stupid enough to have said like 90% of the truth throughout his game so far. I do mostly believe him. I’m down for a “host” (not Leone, tbh who the fuck even knows what his win con is for a vote) vote but I’m 100% certain it’s not gonna happen anyway as it requires everyone on board. lol

Also, this post after TYG claimed in full makes me believe ALAK had the Kyle the Bagel role from the beginning and it wasn't swapped. He also wants the Leone votes (he was the same win condition) and "TYG telling 90% of the truth" is probably because their roles are pretty much 90% similar.

I can agree with this, his attitude didn't seem town anyway lol.

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Re: Forum Themed Mafia: Meme Extravaganza - Day 2
Reply #782 - 04/13/20 at 04:20:38

wxyz wrote on 04/13/20 at 04:17:14:

TvK wrote on 04/13/20 at 04:13:01:

P.A.F.625 wrote on 04/13/20 at 04:06:56:

TvK wrote on 04/13/20 at 04:03:20:

P.A.F.625 wrote on 04/13/20 at 04:00:53:

Fuck it, at this point it's kinda obvious my ability was role scan.

So now that you've got that out of the way, what more can you tell us about ALAK?

He's his supposed role PM:

"Hi ALAKTORN! You are Kyle the Bagel, a Meutral Chaos Meme SPY! As meutral chaos meme SPY, your goal is to cast 730 votes and get another player modkilled actually for real without getting modkilled yourself! You win automatically if anyone gets modkilled, whether you were involved or not. If this isn’t possible you may also win by convincing everyone to lynch the host (me). At night you get to swap 2 players’ roles (priority 10). They will be notified of their role update but not to whom their role was transferred. If you try to switch a mafia with a not-mafia the switch will fail. You will not be notified whether your swap succeeded!"

I was thinking this wasn't the only role that could alter other roles. If TYG could role switch, then he got switched with ALAK. Maybe he switched himself with ALAK. I'm confused with his reply, don't think he's honest at all...

Well, TYG claimed to be a Bagel (Kyle), exactly the same as in the first TvL TV report, and ALAK is Kyle the Bagel. They could be two similar but slightly different roles.

I can't see Leone having the same forum member as two different roles, not when there are so many forum members to chose from to make roles on.

Well, PAF is directly quoting from Leone and Leone used the exact phrasing a Bagel (Kyle) in the opening post. I think everything points to two different roles. Unless you believe PAF has made up the "Kyle the Bagel" part or TYG changed his character name in his claim. I don't see either happening.

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Re: Forum Themed Mafia: Meme Extravaganza - Day 2
Reply #783 - 04/13/20 at 04:20:48

P.A.F.625 wrote on 04/13/20 at 04:13:43:

Hugo wrote on 04/13/20 at 04:11:44:

P.A.F.625 wrote on 04/13/20 at 04:06:56:

TvK wrote on 04/13/20 at 04:03:20:

P.A.F.625 wrote on 04/13/20 at 04:00:53:

Fuck it, at this point it's kinda obvious my ability was role scan.

So now that you've got that out of the way, what more can you tell us about ALAK?

He's his supposed role PM:

"Hi ALAKTORN! You are Kyle the Bagel, a Meutral Chaos Meme SPY! As meutral chaos meme SPY, your goal is to cast 730 votes and get another player modkilled actually for real without getting modkilled yourself! You win automatically if anyone gets modkilled, whether you were involved or not. If this isn’t possible you may also win by convincing everyone to lynch the host (me). At night you get to swap 2 players’ roles (priority 10). They will be notified of their role update but not to whom their role was transferred. If you try to switch a mafia with a not-mafia the switch will fail. You will not be notified whether your swap succeeded!"

I was thinking this wasn't the only role that could alter other roles. If TYG could role switch, then he got switched with ALAK. Maybe he switched himself with ALAK. I'm confused with his reply, don't think he's honest at all...

that looks like TYG's role lol, but priority 10 looks pretty low, wouldn't you see the description of the role Alak had BEFORE the switch? unless your priority is even lower?

Can confirm my priority is greater than 10, so either TYG is lying (this isn't his exact role PM as he claimed anyway) or there are other role-switchers... maybe both.

uhhhhh so assuming that you're not lying and TYG is...

someone swapped TYG's role with Alak's, you checked what Alak's role was, but then Alak was able to swap again?

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Re: Forum Themed Mafia: Meme Extravaganza - Day 2
Reply #784 - 04/13/20 at 04:23:12

Hugo wrote on 04/13/20 at 04:20:48:

P.A.F.625 wrote on 04/13/20 at 04:13:43:

Hugo wrote on 04/13/20 at 04:11:44:

P.A.F.625 wrote on 04/13/20 at 04:06:56:

TvK wrote on 04/13/20 at 04:03:20:

P.A.F.625 wrote on 04/13/20 at 04:00:53:

Fuck it, at this point it's kinda obvious my ability was role scan.

So now that you've got that out of the way, what more can you tell us about ALAK?

He's his supposed role PM:

"Hi ALAKTORN! You are Kyle the Bagel, a Meutral Chaos Meme SPY! As meutral chaos meme SPY, your goal is to cast 730 votes and get another player modkilled actually for real without getting modkilled yourself! You win automatically if anyone gets modkilled, whether you were involved or not. If this isn’t possible you may also win by convincing everyone to lynch the host (me). At night you get to swap 2 players’ roles (priority 10). They will be notified of their role update but not to whom their role was transferred. If you try to switch a mafia with a not-mafia the switch will fail. You will not be notified whether your swap succeeded!"

I was thinking this wasn't the only role that could alter other roles. If TYG could role switch, then he got switched with ALAK. Maybe he switched himself with ALAK. I'm confused with his reply, don't think he's honest at all...

that looks like TYG's role lol, but priority 10 looks pretty low, wouldn't you see the description of the role Alak had BEFORE the switch? unless your priority is even lower?

Can confirm my priority is greater than 10, so either TYG is lying (this isn't his exact role PM as he claimed anyway) or there are other role-switchers... maybe both.

uhhhhh so assuming that you're not lying and TYG is...

someone swapped TYG's role with Alak's, you checked what Alak's role was, but then Alak was able to swap again?

Nah, they probs wouldn't know until end of night phase. Anyway that's likely not what happened, read above.

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TvK NinjaTvK Offline 5510 days karting Belgium Gender:	Re: Forum Themed Mafia: Meme Extravaganza - Day 2 Reply #785 - 04/13/20 at 04:25:26 By the way, what a shit role. Only winning by modkill. The only interesting part I'm taking from his role PM is that he is unable to swap maf and non-maf. I wonder if the same goes for any role swapping. And if TYG is telling the truth, you apparently do get notified if your role gets switched.
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Re: Forum Themed Mafia: Meme Extravaganza - Day 2
Reply #786 - 04/13/20 at 04:26:32

Hugo wrote on 04/13/20 at 04:20:48:

P.A.F.625 wrote on 04/13/20 at 04:13:43:

Hugo wrote on 04/13/20 at 04:11:44:

P.A.F.625 wrote on 04/13/20 at 04:06:56:

TvK wrote on 04/13/20 at 04:03:20:

P.A.F.625 wrote on 04/13/20 at 04:00:53:

Fuck it, at this point it's kinda obvious my ability was role scan.

So now that you've got that out of the way, what more can you tell us about ALAK?

He's his supposed role PM:

"Hi ALAKTORN! You are Kyle the Bagel, a Meutral Chaos Meme SPY! As meutral chaos meme SPY, your goal is to cast 730 votes and get another player modkilled actually for real without getting modkilled yourself! You win automatically if anyone gets modkilled, whether you were involved or not. If this isn’t possible you may also win by convincing everyone to lynch the host (me). At night you get to swap 2 players’ roles (priority 10). They will be notified of their role update but not to whom their role was transferred. If you try to switch a mafia with a not-mafia the switch will fail. You will not be notified whether your swap succeeded!"

I was thinking this wasn't the only role that could alter other roles. If TYG could role switch, then he got switched with ALAK. Maybe he switched himself with ALAK. I'm confused with his reply, don't think he's honest at all...

that looks like TYG's role lol, but priority 10 looks pretty low, wouldn't you see the description of the role Alak had BEFORE the switch? unless your priority is even lower?

Can confirm my priority is greater than 10, so either TYG is lying (this isn't his exact role PM as he claimed anyway) or there are other role-switchers... maybe both.

uhhhhh so assuming that you're not lying and TYG is...

someone swapped TYG's role with Alak's, you checked what Alak's role was, but then Alak was able to swap again?

Come on, there are clear differences between ALAK's role and TYG's role. Read back and you can find TYG's full claim. ALAK's role was never swapped. TYG claimed that he got swapped.

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theyounggun Ex Member	Re: Forum Themed Mafia: Meme Extravaganza - Day 2 Reply #787 - 04/13/20 at 04:30:34 Alak also seemed to be down for voting leone but was maybe just more careful than me. So I think that's maybe why he seemed down.
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Re: Forum Themed Mafia: Meme Extravaganza - Day 2
Reply #788 - 04/13/20 at 04:31:44

TvK wrote on 04/13/20 at 04:26:32:

Hugo wrote on 04/13/20 at 04:20:48:

P.A.F.625 wrote on 04/13/20 at 04:13:43:

Hugo wrote on 04/13/20 at 04:11:44:

P.A.F.625 wrote on 04/13/20 at 04:06:56:

TvK wrote on 04/13/20 at 04:03:20:

P.A.F.625 wrote on 04/13/20 at 04:00:53:

Fuck it, at this point it's kinda obvious my ability was role scan.

So now that you've got that out of the way, what more can you tell us about ALAK?

He's his supposed role PM:

"Hi ALAKTORN! You are Kyle the Bagel, a Meutral Chaos Meme SPY! As meutral chaos meme SPY, your goal is to cast 730 votes and get another player modkilled actually for real without getting modkilled yourself! You win automatically if anyone gets modkilled, whether you were involved or not. If this isn’t possible you may also win by convincing everyone to lynch the host (me). At night you get to swap 2 players’ roles (priority 10). They will be notified of their role update but not to whom their role was transferred. If you try to switch a mafia with a not-mafia the switch will fail. You will not be notified whether your swap succeeded!"

I was thinking this wasn't the only role that could alter other roles. If TYG could role switch, then he got switched with ALAK. Maybe he switched himself with ALAK. I'm confused with his reply, don't think he's honest at all...

that looks like TYG's role lol, but priority 10 looks pretty low, wouldn't you see the description of the role Alak had BEFORE the switch? unless your priority is even lower?

Can confirm my priority is greater than 10, so either TYG is lying (this isn't his exact role PM as he claimed anyway) or there are other role-switchers... maybe both.

uhhhhh so assuming that you're not lying and TYG is...

someone swapped TYG's role with Alak's, you checked what Alak's role was, but then Alak was able to swap again?

Come on, there are clear differences between ALAK's role and TYG's role. Read back and you can find TYG's full claim. ALAK's role was never swapped. TYG claimed that he got swapped.

I actually doubt that there would be both a "Bagel (Kyle)" and a "Kyle the Bagel" role, so I tend to believe Alak got TYG's role at some point, or still has it

If TYG became townie then I don't think he has any interest in lying, so he either became maf, got another 3rd-party role, or is telling the truth

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Reply #789 - 04/13/20 at 04:32:03

TYG role claim: Hi Lewis! You are a Bagel (Kyle), a Meutral Chaos Mod SPY! As meutral chaos mod SPY, you win automatically if anyone gets modkilled, whether you were involved or not. If this isn’t possible you may also win by convincing everyone to vote the host (me). At night you get 1 mod kill (will not count for your win condition) that you will only be able to use once this game.

PAFs role claim (based on scan): Hi ALAKTORN! You are Kyle the Bagel, a Meutral Chaos Meme SPY! As meutral chaos meme SPY, your goal is to cast 730 votes and get another player modkilled actually for real without getting modkilled yourself! You win automatically if anyone gets modkilled, whether you were involved or not. If this isn’t possible you may also win by convincing everyone to lynch the host (me). At night you get to swap 2 players’ roles (priority 10). They will be notified of their role update but not to whom their role was transferred. If you try to switch a mafia with a not-mafia the switch will fail. You will not be notified whether your swap succeeded!

I can't see Leone messing with a role when it gets switched (other than maybe to cosmetically make it a bit clearer).

If TYG had his role swapped, why lie about what it was originally now, why not come clean and let us know its exact details, what harm would that be if he has changed roles now?

For me either:

1) PAF faked the scan and TYG is going along with it in the hope of riding the game out until someone gets modkilled.
2) The scan is real but for some reason TYG is still lying about his original role. If he was town now, why would he do that? So he got swapped with another neutral role and its somehow to his benefit to hide his original role.
3) PAF did the scan and then altered the result, can't see why this would be done since the scan could have been faked easily given TYG had already given his role details.

I can't see both ALAK and TYG both being Kyle at the start, it would be crazy for TYG to change the rolename he was given when he declared his role as that would lead to a possible clash with an existing townies rolename and just add suspiction to him.

I'm sure there is a logical arguemant in here that someone more awake than me will figure out.

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theyounggun Ex Member	Re: Forum Themed Mafia: Meme Extravaganza - Day 2 Reply #790 - 04/13/20 at 04:35:35 I wonder if maybe there's an entire neutral faction that's just all kyles lol
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Reply #791 - 04/13/20 at 04:37:27

Hugo wrote on 04/13/20 at 04:31:44:

I actually doubt that there would be both a "Bagel (Kyle)" and a "Kyle the Bagel" role, so I tend to believe Alak got TYG's role at some point, or still has it

If TYG became townie then I don't think he has any interest in lying, so he either became maf, got another 3rd-party role, or is telling the truth

Tell me who is lying then? PAF? TYG? Or do entire roles randomly change throughout the game?

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wxyz Legend Offline 5481 holabolas	Re: Forum Themed Mafia: Meme Extravaganza - Day 2 Reply #792 - 04/13/20 at 04:38:45 LewisRichards wrote on 04/13/20 at 04:35:35: I wonder if maybe there's an entire neutral faction that's just all kyles lol so you are saying you are still neutral after the 'switch'. what is your new role?
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Re: Forum Themed Mafia: Meme Extravaganza - Day 2
Reply #793 - 04/13/20 at 04:40:16

TvK wrote on 04/13/20 at 04:37:27:

Hugo wrote on 04/13/20 at 04:31:44:

I actually doubt that there would be both a "Bagel (Kyle)" and a "Kyle the Bagel" role, so I tend to believe Alak got TYG's role at some point, or still has it

If TYG became townie then I don't think he has any interest in lying, so he either became maf, got another 3rd-party role, or is telling the truth

Tell me who is lying then? PAF? TYG? Or do entire roles randomly change throughout the game?

I think the more likely scenario is that TYG became maf or 3rd-party that town would want to lynch, so that's why he doesn't want to admit that his exact role description is the one PAF gave

PAF could also very well be lying, but I'm still trying to figure why he would do that

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theyounggun Ex Member	Re: Forum Themed Mafia: Meme Extravaganza - Day 2 Reply #794 - 04/13/20 at 04:40:36 no I'm saying that someone got my role and it isn't alak so there are already 2 neutral kyles what's too say it isn't a faction lol
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P.A.F.625 King Offline 3923 days karting Portugal Gender:	Re: Forum Themed Mafia: Meme Extravaganza - Day 2 Reply #796 - 04/13/20 at 04:45:48 Seems I might have done a mistake outing ALAK so early though. I think he's the one who switched TYG.
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P.A.F.625 King Offline punched 3923 kiddies Portugal Gender:	Re: Forum Themed Mafia: Meme Extravaganza - Day 2 Reply #797 - 04/13/20 at 04:47:41 There is one more mystery left to solve actually, has to do with my own role. Should I full claim?
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theyounggun Ex Member	Re: Forum Themed Mafia: Meme Extravaganza - Day 2 Reply #798 - 04/13/20 at 04:51:19 only you can know if you should fullclaim or not since no one else knows your role lol
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wxyz Legend Offline 5481 days karting	Re: Forum Themed Mafia: Meme Extravaganza - Day 2 Reply #799 - 04/13/20 at 04:53:24 P.A.F.625 wrote on 04/13/20 at 04:44:12: I can very much believe both A Bagel (Kyle) and Kyle The Bagel are in the game, seems to be an illusion Leone would add to this game. [vote]P.A.F.625[/vote]
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