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Reply #250 - 04/11/20 at 09:07:11
 
WAZZUPYOSHI wrote on 04/11/20 at 09:03:28:
kyleb30 wrote on 04/11/20 at 08:56:13:
John, shock, and zoran haven't posted enough for me to make any reads. Onion just joined, and wazz has yet to show up


Don't worry I'm here!

I read through the past 10 pages and best course of action is lynch tyg (player). Dan's role in this feels a little odd but eh whatever, find his role once we get the big elephant out of the room. Maybe start exposing some cracks in the story of others, although we're "only" 7 hours in so it's a little hard to determine yet.

So my priority list would be
-Lynch tyg
-Find Dan's role
-Find anyone else's role
-Town win?

If anyone has any objections to that, let me know.


Eh, I have some questions. How do you plan on "finding Dan's role"? Do you plan on grilling him that hard until he crack or are you just calling for a power role to investigate him? Who do you mean by "anyone else"? Are you saying like if we know everyone's role in this game then we will probably win? Or do you think htere is only one other non-town role?
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Reply #251 - 04/11/20 at 09:08:39
 
Leone wrote on 04/11/20 at 02:00:00:
Moll DOES NOT live in NoFapLand!!!
Zoran DOES NOT live in NoFapLand, either!!!
BRay DOES live in NoFapLand!!!
A Bagel (Kyle) Also DOES live in NoFapLand!!!

That is all for Today's segment! tune in tomorrow for more top-notch reporting here in NoFapLand!


Like TvK I have a lot of trouble interpreting this, what does living in NoFapLand means? the game TAKES PLACE in NoFapLand, so I would assume that 3rd-party characters don't live there, but that's not what tyg's claim suggets... then what can be said about the Zoran and Moll roles? I can see Zoran being a tanner, idk about Moll

could the name of the town be of any importance? maybe players who don't live in NoFapLand are looking forward to being lynched so that they can go back to fapping? lol

most importantly, is there a fapmaster role???

anyway, looking at the last sentence, we can assume that we will learn more during the next day
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Reply #252 - 04/11/20 at 09:08:43
 
And to add to my previous post, can you at least give your reasons in your own words why you think lynching TYG right now is the best play for town? I really mistrust people who say what they want to do without explaining why they want to do so.
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Reply #253 - 04/11/20 at 09:10:22
 
I still think Dan is maf, but also starting to think that so are Kyle and ALAK. Will wait for more info before voting again.

My main reasons at the moment for thinking as I do aren't really that strong tbh, I just thought Kyles breakdown of his views seemed a little uncomittal and pointless as far as posts go if he was actually Town so working under the assumption (prob flawed) that he is maf. ALAK I got as he was Kyles 2nd "Slight town lean" listed which looks like cover for me.
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Reply #254 - 04/11/20 at 09:11:08
 
Hugo wrote on 04/11/20 at 09:08:39:
Leone wrote on 04/11/20 at 02:00:00:
Moll DOES NOT live in NoFapLand!!!
Zoran DOES NOT live in NoFapLand, either!!!
BRay DOES live in NoFapLand!!!
A Bagel (Kyle) Also DOES live in NoFapLand!!!

That is all for Today's segment! tune in tomorrow for more top-notch reporting here in NoFapLand!


Like TvK I have a lot of trouble interpreting this, what does living in NoFapLand means? the game TAKES PLACE in NoFapLand, so I would assume that 3rd-party characters don't live there, but that's not what tyg's claim suggets... then what can be said about the Zoran and Moll roles? I can see Zoran being a tanner, idk about Moll

could the name of the town be of any importance? maybe players who don't live in NoFapLand are looking forward to being lynched so that they can go back to fapping? lol

most importantly, is there a fapmaster role???

anyway, looking at the last sentence, we can assume that we will learn more during the next day


I agree with what Kyle has had to say about this so far. I think Leone is trying to tell us which roles are in the (live in NoFapLand) and which roles are not in the game.
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Reply #255 - 04/11/20 at 09:12:35
 
For fuck's sake lynching TYG is one the worst options. Practically the same as No Lynch, in fact.

Those of you pushing the fact that Dan could be jester are a bit suspicious to me. I never liked the discussion around the technicality "it's the character not the player"... then again Leone has shown not to have a problem with such things influencing the game...
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Reply #256 - 04/11/20 at 09:13:54
 
kyleb30 wrote on 04/11/20 at 08:56:13:
here's where i stand:

Dan - mafia or neutral chaotic, there is a less than 0% chance he's town

Lewis - I believe he's neutral but i think he's still withholding some info. I'm starting to find it hard to believe his win conditions is have someone fuck up or get the entire game to vote for the mod, that's very challenging if so.

Kleenex - noobish town. he's pretty focused on Dan but I think that's because he doesn't have much experience. we're not getting much more out of dan so we need to use the rest of this day to get other people to talk.

TvK - Slight town lean, I like that he applied pressure elsewhere to see what info we can find.

ALAK - Slight town lean, I'm not really sure what to make of him but I've liked his posting so far

PAF - meh, i feel like he addressed TvK's points without actually saying anything. No real read on him yet.

vinnie - not a ton of posts so not much to go off. while i don't really agree with his points on dan not being lynchable, his thought process makes me feel like he's scumhunting so he's a slight town lean for me

Moll - Not a lot to go off of, no real read here

zarkov - same as moll, nothing really substantial

John, shock, and zoran haven't posted enough for me to make any reads. Onion just joined, and wazz has yet to show up


just seen this and I pretty much have the exact same reads, except my town lean on alak is pretty strong

also I think kyle started pretty well so that will be a slight town lean on him

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Reply #257 - 04/11/20 at 09:16:04
 
Hugo wrote on 04/11/20 at 09:13:54:
kyleb30 wrote on 04/11/20 at 08:56:13:
here's where i stand:

Dan - mafia or neutral chaotic, there is a less than 0% chance he's town

Lewis - I believe he's neutral but i think he's still withholding some info. I'm starting to find it hard to believe his win conditions is have someone fuck up or get the entire game to vote for the mod, that's very challenging if so.

Kleenex - noobish town. he's pretty focused on Dan but I think that's because he doesn't have much experience. we're not getting much more out of dan so we need to use the rest of this day to get other people to talk.

TvK - Slight town lean, I like that he applied pressure elsewhere to see what info we can find.

ALAK - Slight town lean, I'm not really sure what to make of him but I've liked his posting so far

PAF - meh, i feel like he addressed TvK's points without actually saying anything. No real read on him yet.

vinnie - not a ton of posts so not much to go off. while i don't really agree with his points on dan not being lynchable, his thought process makes me feel like he's scumhunting so he's a slight town lean for me

Moll - Not a lot to go off of, no real read here

zarkov - same as moll, nothing really substantial

John, shock, and zoran haven't posted enough for me to make any reads. Onion just joined, and wazz has yet to show up


just seen this and I pretty much have the exact same reads, except my town lean on alak is pretty strong

also I think kyle started pretty well so that will be a slight town lean on him



Tbh I think it will stay that way as I don't know what to say.
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Reply #258 - 04/11/20 at 09:16:35
 
Zwiebel wrote on 04/11/20 at 09:00:21:
I would also be careful about the Dan thing, we have no confirmation that Dan is actually Dan...think about it.

I think most people would agree with me that Dan is a smart player, yea? So listen

He basically "gave himself away". There's no way he wouldn't at least try to talk himself out of this saying that it's the "role Dan" not the player, if he was Maf.. Instead, he basically "confirmed" it and said it's a shit role and he hates it and spammed the thread. He's defo not Town, but I'm actually more inclined to believe he is some sort of neutral faction.

It defo seems to me like he's trying to get lynched with that. I would advise against that


that's exactly what I think he wants you to hink, and it seems to work so far

but I can also agree with kyle on how gathering info is more important so I'm focusing on the PAF/TvK interaction right now
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Reply #259 - 04/11/20 at 09:19:43
 
TvK wrote on 04/11/20 at 09:07:11:
WAZZUPYOSHI wrote on 04/11/20 at 09:03:28:
kyleb30 wrote on 04/11/20 at 08:56:13:
John, shock, and zoran haven't posted enough for me to make any reads. Onion just joined, and wazz has yet to show up


Don't worry I'm here!

I read through the past 10 pages and best course of action is lynch tyg (player). Dan's role in this feels a little odd but eh whatever, find his role once we get the big elephant out of the room. Maybe start exposing some cracks in the story of others, although we're "only" 7 hours in so it's a little hard to determine yet.

So my priority list would be
-Lynch tyg
-Find Dan's role
-Find anyone else's role
-Town win?

If anyone has any objections to that, let me know.


Eh, I have some questions. How do you plan on "finding Dan's role"? Do you plan on grilling him that hard until he crack or are you just calling for a power role to investigate him? Who do you mean by "anyone else"? Are you saying like if we know everyone's role in this game then we will probably win? Or do you think htere is only one other non-town role?


An investigative role, preferably, although it may be a waste of a night action and I'm still hesitant to lynch him, seems a little too coincidental that the player would be up for lynch when it could very well
Finding more roles is generally associated with a town win, yes? So while we might not be able to get all of the roles we want, as long as we find who's maf (+ neutral if they don't cooperate), we should be fine.
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TvK wrote on 04/11/20 at 09:08:43:
And to add to my previous post, can you at least give your reasons in your own words why you think lynching TYG right now is the best play for town? I really mistrust people who say what they want to do without explaining why they want to do so.


He's expressed himself to be a neutral killing role (executioner-equivalent) that threatens to work with the maf if we don't cooperate with him. Now seeing as there's a big target on his back if suddenly there is more maf votes, I'm calling that a bait because a) he doesn't really have anything to give maf and b) he'd have to play a decently long waiting game in order to outnumber town, if it ever comes to that point.
Who knows honestly, we've got little info and there's been proof that you can modify your role pm to pass it off as something else so it's a big crapshoot at this point. TyG very well may be a jester equivalent and lynching him would be a waste but ehhh I don't have any other leads at this time so Tongue.
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Reply #260 - 04/11/20 at 09:20:25
 
P.A.F.625 wrote on 04/11/20 at 09:12:35:
For fuck's sake lynching TYG is one the worst options. Practically the same as No Lynch, in fact.

Those of you pushing the fact that Dan could be jester are a bit suspicious to me. I never liked the discussion around the technicality "it's the character not the player"... then again Leone has shown not to have a problem with such things influencing the game...


My assumption is that whenever Leone is telling the story that he is using role names not player names, though would be nice to get clarification.

Maybe have a clear way of distigushing when he is talking about roles and when he is talking about players (like colour coding)
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Reply #261 - 04/11/20 at 09:21:43
 
Hugo wrote on 04/11/20 at 09:16:35:
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I would also be careful about the Dan thing, we have no confirmation that Dan is actually Dan...think about it.

I think most people would agree with me that Dan is a smart player, yea? So listen

He basically "gave himself away". There's no way he wouldn't at least try to talk himself out of this saying that it's the "role Dan" not the player, if he was Maf.. Instead, he basically "confirmed" it and said it's a shit role and he hates it and spammed the thread. He's defo not Town, but I'm actually more inclined to believe he is some sort of neutral faction.

It defo seems to me like he's trying to get lynched with that. I would advise against that


that's exactly what I think he wants you to hink, and it seems to work so far

but I can also agree with kyle on how gathering info is more important so I'm focusing on the PAF/TvK interaction right now


Would Maf!Dan literally start the game out like this if he was Maf? Tell me why he would
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Reply #262 - 04/11/20 at 09:22:58
 
P.A.F.625 wrote on 04/11/20 at 09:12:35:
For fuck's sake lynching TYG is one the worst options. Practically the same as No Lynch, in fact.

Those of you pushing the fact that Dan could be jester are a bit suspicious to me. I never liked the discussion around the technicality "it's the character not the player"... then again Leone has shown not to have a problem with such things influencing the game...


is jester another name for the tanner role? (i.e. 3rd-party who wins when being lynched)
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Reply #263 - 04/11/20 at 09:23:26
 
P.A.F.625 wrote on 04/11/20 at 09:12:35:
For fuck's sake lynching TYG is one the worst options. Practically the same as No Lynch, in fact.

Those of you pushing the fact that Dan could be jester are a bit suspicious to me. I never liked the discussion around the technicality "it's the character not the player"... then again Leone has shown not to have a problem with such things influencing the game...


Why would you not like this discussion? I think it's beneficial to us to figure it out. Maybe there's no way to find out right now, but just saying "I'm right and I don't want to discuss it" is really not a Town Mindset
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Reply #264 - 04/11/20 at 09:24:32
 
There's a ton of discussion about character names and it's at a point where I think someone just said it as a red herring to confuse people, I don't think it is worth considering.

IMO, the best course of action is to leave Dan and TYG alive and spend the day looking for someone else to lynch. When I have time I will produce a readslist, but right now my suspicion on PAF still stands.
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Reply #265 - 04/11/20 at 09:24:55
 
Hugo wrote on 04/11/20 at 09:22:58:
P.A.F.625 wrote on 04/11/20 at 09:12:35:
For fuck's sake lynching TYG is one the worst options. Practically the same as No Lynch, in fact.

Those of you pushing the fact that Dan could be jester are a bit suspicious to me. I never liked the discussion around the technicality "it's the character not the player"... then again Leone has shown not to have a problem with such things influencing the game...


is jester another name for the tanner role? (i.e. 3rd-party who wins when being lynched)


Yes.
When in doubt look at town of salem wiki because there's other names for the same role so if you don't recognize something it's probably from there.
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Reply #266 - 04/11/20 at 09:28:57
 
Zwiebel wrote on 04/11/20 at 09:23:26:
P.A.F.625 wrote on 04/11/20 at 09:12:35:
For fuck's sake lynching TYG is one the worst options. Practically the same as No Lynch, in fact.

Those of you pushing the fact that Dan could be jester are a bit suspicious to me. I never liked the discussion around the technicality "it's the character not the player"... then again Leone has shown not to have a problem with such things influencing the game...


Why would you not like this discussion? I think it's beneficial to us to figure it out. Maybe there's no way to find out right now, but just saying "I'm right and I don't want to discuss it" is really not a Town Mindset

I guess that our most reliable way of determining reads would be to gauge how people react to this idea, whether or not they definitely believe it, tentatively believe it, or outright dismissed it. So for that reason alone it might be worth talking about still.
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Reply #267 - 04/11/20 at 09:31:58
 
Zwiebel wrote on 04/11/20 at 09:21:43:
Hugo wrote on 04/11/20 at 09:16:35:
Zwiebel wrote on 04/11/20 at 09:00:21:
I would also be careful about the Dan thing, we have no confirmation that Dan is actually Dan...think about it.

I think most people would agree with me that Dan is a smart player, yea? So listen

He basically "gave himself away". There's no way he wouldn't at least try to talk himself out of this saying that it's the "role Dan" not the player, if he was Maf.. Instead, he basically "confirmed" it and said it's a shit role and he hates it and spammed the thread. He's defo not Town, but I'm actually more inclined to believe he is some sort of neutral faction.

It defo seems to me like he's trying to get lynched with that. I would advise against that


that's exactly what I think he wants you to hink, and it seems to work so far

but I can also agree with kyle on how gathering info is more important so I'm focusing on the PAF/TvK interaction right now


Would Maf!Dan literally start the game out like this if he was Maf? Tell me why he would


since most of you played many games with him, he probably figured that you'd be metagaming and figured that he needs to think ahead, you're thinking that he's a tanner trying to look like a maf, but I can really see him being maf and trying to look like a tanner trying to look like a maf

it's kind of a 50/50 but he's my strongest maf lean so far, and we can also gather info that way
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Reply #268 - 04/11/20 at 09:32:57
 
Vote totals (updated periodically): (Also added to OP)

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Reply #269 - 04/11/20 at 09:33:03
 
Well if we're all being transparent, I'm a town with special needs abilities.
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Reply #270 - 04/11/20 at 09:33:06
 
kyleb30 wrote on 04/11/20 at 07:18:29:
also i'm starting to think of things through the lens of player!Dan is indeed the mafia, the host would most likely give us this to balance the game out, right? which means a few possibilities

1) Dans role is so powerful that if he gets to use it once it's super detrimental to town
2) There are a lot more mafia than normal, so outing one early is a way to balance out the numbers
3) There's a few maf aligned neutrals, same thought process as 2

I still believe DansGame the role was revealed with the OG post, but I think considering the effects of DansGame the player being revealed is worthwhile



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1) Yeah, there may be a BIG penalty (via player!Dan's Night ability(ies)) to not lynching outed Maf!Dan today.
2):

Leone wrote on 04/10/20 at 10:54:04:
Town starts with a strong majority. That is the only thing I will guarantee.


Probably not a lot more Mafia than normal based off this. Dumbtell?

3) A likely scenario, as I think from a hosting perspective having a good few neutrals is fun, so Leone probably has a couple/few of them in this game.

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I still believe DansGame the role was revealed with the OG post, but I think considering the effects of DansGame the player being revealed is worthwhile


I mean, I would think DansGame the role would be a pretty likely one for Leone to include in this game, but judging by Dan's immediate first post after the start of day, I really don't see a scenario where player!Dan isn't just straight up outed Maf.
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Reply #272 - 04/11/20 at 09:33:36
 
Zwiebel wrote on 04/11/20 at 09:21:43:
Hugo wrote on 04/11/20 at 09:16:35:
Zwiebel wrote on 04/11/20 at 09:00:21:
I would also be careful about the Dan thing, we have no confirmation that Dan is actually Dan...think about it.

I think most people would agree with me that Dan is a smart player, yea? So listen

He basically "gave himself away". There's no way he wouldn't at least try to talk himself out of this saying that it's the "role Dan" not the player, if he was Maf.. Instead, he basically "confirmed" it and said it's a shit role and he hates it and spammed the thread. He's defo not Town, but I'm actually more inclined to believe he is some sort of neutral faction.

It defo seems to me like he's trying to get lynched with that. I would advise against that


that's exactly what I think he wants you to hink, and it seems to work so far

but I can also agree with kyle on how gathering info is more important so I'm focusing on the PAF/TvK interaction right now


Would Maf!Dan literally start the game out like this if he was Maf? Tell me why he would


Because his role PM would already state he'd get outed and stood with that, and dint occur to him he could get away by just claiming "it's the character not the player".
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Zwiebel wrote on 04/11/20 at 09:23:26:
P.A.F.625 wrote on 04/11/20 at 09:12:35:
For fuck's sake lynching TYG is one the worst options. Practically the same as No Lynch, in fact.

Those of you pushing the fact that Dan could be jester are a bit suspicious to me. I never liked the discussion around the technicality "it's the character not the player"... then again Leone has shown not to have a problem with such things influencing the game...


Why would you not like this discussion? I think it's beneficial to us to figure it out. Maybe there's no way to find out right now, but just saying "I'm right and I don't want to discuss it" is really not a Town Mindset


You got that right, my point is I think it's bullshit
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Shock wrote on 04/11/20 at 09:33:29:
Ah dammit bbl forgot about lunch


Who forgets about lunch? That's madness.
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