Leone wrote on 04/11/20 at 07:35:47:


Should be all clear now!!!

Leone wrote on 04/11/20 at 02:00:00:


Also quoting this for reference. Does this mean living in NoFapLand means having a 3rd party role?

like tomorrow we might get that there's a shock and and a colvin role in the game, but not an etch role or something like that.

OK I tend to believe TYG. I think lynching him isn't a good idea, otherwise I'm still not really sure what we're supposed to do. I'm keeping my Leone vote.
For now, I'll reply to TvK:
Is it just me or are you tough on me very game? lol
I did say I thought we had nothing to lose by voting Leone, but yes I'm aware how No Lynch is bad for town. Thought losing maf+town would be somehow worse but you have a point. So maybe vote Dan. But I don't want to ignore TYG so easily.
And as for the false dichotomy, I honestly thought any other lynch wouldn't be as good, we have actual info for these 2. I can change my mind...

P.A.F.625 wrote on 04/11/20 at 07:57:16:


Eh screw that. Either vote Leone, then Dan after TYG wins, or just Dan straight away. We should leave any other lynch to D2.

P.A.F.625 wrote on 04/11/20 at 08:02:25:


There's still 30 hours in the day left, we can gain more information through discussion. For the time being I agree it's between Dan and TYG (and tyg's win condition), but another wagon could form.

Am I the only one around her trying to unite the scumhunters?!?!  

LewisRichards wrote on 04/11/20 at 08:05:23:


because you could choose to align yourself as mafia which would hurt town, and we can gain info on the wagon that would form on you.

Day 1 isn't necessarily about finding a mafia, it's about gathering information when we start with very little

ALAKTORN wrote on 04/11/20 at 08:07:01:


on Dan: I'm not saying we shouldn't lynch Dan if he is indeed the maf, in fact I think if we can come to the conclusion he is maf we 100% lynch him. I'm just trying to mention possibilities for why he would be outed. I think if it is indeed player!Dan that was outed as maf, the most likely reason for this would be balancing the game. I think if that's the case it's because he has a crazy power role.

As for the TYG stuff, it'd be very strange if the game ended when a 3rd party faction achieves a win condition, I don't think I've ever seen a game like that. More likely is that when he achieves his win condition, he gets removed from the game. If that's the case, helping him would give us next to no benefit (the only benefit is it'd be 13 players instead of 14 to be possible maf).

Alak I literally never said it wasn't good for town lol

I said it didn't align with town's interests or something cuz why tf would voting leone randomly align with town's interests. But like it could be good for town as in me joining you guys for helping me I don't fkn know reeeeeeeeee what else was I supposed to do lol

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I believe Dan can't be lynched as a way to balance out the terrible position he started in, so I won't bother lynching him today unless evidence comes out proving otherwise (that is, Dan can be lynched). It's possible he can't die D1, maybe he needs to be shot instead of lynched.

I can't say I like what tyg is doing, the idea of voting someone's role feels weird to me. I'm probably going to avoid lynching him too to avoid a Tanner situation. Later on, I see he claims to win if he causes a modkill. This makes me slightly more willing to vote him but I still don't really want to.

All this talk about lynching characters and not roles is annoying me because I can't see that being the case. I believe Dan is mafia who can only be killed under strict circumstances. (Can confirm my role matches up with someone's username)

Thank you @TvK #163 for talking about literally anyone else. Calling for no-lynch d1 is something I've seen maf do here before, and anyone willingly going along with TYG's plan would be complicit in that.

Note that a BRay role is in the game. BRay was revealed as mafia in the DN game, and Dan was here. Looks possible that Dan has BRay as his role.

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Why should we follow through with TYG's win condition when it doesn't benefit us? Essentially just agreeing with TvK here, but PAF's posts since then are just him accentuating all the reasons TvK had outlined for voting him.

I don't really like the way the attention is shifting away from Dan, he could easily get away that way

even if he's maf with a post-mortem power, killing him probably is still worth it

I especially don't like the fact that he's not posting anymore, probably expecting people to assume that he has a tanner-like role

of course it's a pretty risky move to do, but I want you to seriously consider this

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kyleb30 wrote on 04/11/20 at 08:15:55:

OK now I’ve changed my mind again. If 3rd-party wins don’t end the game, what’s stopping us from letting TYG win? On one hand we might have a strong kill, on the other literally nothing happens? How is this bad for us?

TvK? You were the one saying 3rd-party could end the game, what do you have to say? I don’t really want to hear another “he’s not Town, don’t trust him” spiel, give me legit game scenarios where giving him the win hurts Town.

Looked back to find TYG’s post to see his exact wording and eh I can see it go either way.
1. He’s retarded and it doesn’t actually hurt Town that much despite what he said
2. It’s actually bad somehow
LewisRichards wrote on 04/11/20 at 06:28:10: