LewisRichards wrote on 04/11/20 at 06:13:11:

My offer is still on the table

Shock wrote on 04/11/20 at 05:34:53:



Different situations.

TvK and Shock are making a lot of sense, TYG. If voting for Leone’s role still works though… what’s the harm in that? I really do think it won’t end day, going by the wording of OP.

How is it possible that voting Leone’s role would negatively affect Town? Obviously if it counts as lynch we might play right into Maf!TYG hands, but I tend to believe his claim and the fact it won’t end day. I doubt Maf!TYG does such ballsy play.

LewisRichards wrote on 04/11/20 at 05:12:56:


This is where I'd like to see that written in your role PM. What I'm still very skeptical about is that you may have a power or something that converts all "Leone" the player votes into Leone-the-in-game-character votes, which might exist and might be a Townie. Because Leone the player is already technically dead.

I'd rather have an apathetic, unhelpful neutral character and a guaranteed dead Maf today over a potentially risky vote where we take you at your word that the Day continues when in fact as far as we know the Day ends with a mislynch. But you might win me over if you can develop for me a convincing case - for example you've made threats about your Night ability but I still don't know how bad it would be.

Try to think of it from my perspective. You're claiming you have a win-win winning condition that aligns pretty well with Town's interests. How likely is that really? That seems way too convenient to me. I feel like you're hiding that something detrimental happens to the Town if we go along with you here.

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The best interest for me if I reach my win condition is to keep my word so people will have my trust in future games. I promise if you guys help me achieve my win condition I'll give it my best shot. Dan's role might be to nuke the hammer or something, so achieve my win condition I'll hammer Dan.

wait, I misread the rules, a neutral-aligned role achieving his win condition doesn't mean the end of the game

then is it problematic to let them win as long as the mafia members die?

TvK wrote on 04/11/20 at 06:07:03:


I'm like 95% sure that Dan (the player) is a netural role that wants to get lynched, maybe even have to lynched day 1 to win.

I think tyg might also have a "kill me" incentive. i won't be voting for leone since i'm not convinced that voting leone aka no lynch doesn't end the day.

Also worth noting that in the op where it says if you want to lynch leone use the vote tags and theyounggun is now in that spot.

sorry these are quick thoughts, i'm still trying to load the fucking pages to read through

thank fucking god it stopped. shadow was saying that the bandwidth was getting murdered by that lmao

kyleb30 wrote on 04/11/20 at 06:31:29:


i shoulda spot checked this, it does actually say leone so disregard this. on dan's posts it had theyounggun in there instead, guess he edited that which is interesting

kyleb30 wrote on 04/11/20 at 06:38:13:


Oh shit lol that's a next level play from Dan

i would like to keep pursing this dan/tyg route to see if they slip some more info (though dan might have just said fuck it and left), but i want to bring up another discussion point.

Since brian ray and kyle bagel are roles in this game, what do you guys think their actions are/how do you think they are aligned?

I'm not certain on the actions but i would guess kyle is a neutral role that just doesn't want to do anything/potentially die asap so he doesn't have to play anymore (lol)

we can't just take a bath on this day because dan's nonsense, let's get other discussions going!

Hugo wrote on 04/11/20 at 06:14:23:

What the fuck.

Well ok 1. has been explained as a bait by TYG now.

2. Means we can all vote for Leone’s role and nothing happens?

3. What?

4. What’s a tanner? I don’t remember shit about roles in this game.

Kinda weird how you asked all these questions of Leone and he gave you all these answers though. I’m too lazy to check up with him myself to corroborate.

Idk I still think Town’d be better off with an ally than an enemy. If TYG now starts saying that we need to vote Leone though I’m not doing it as there is a real chance that could kill the character. Ok right after writing that sentence I thought to myself “wait a second that makes no fucking sense” why would a vote suddenly target a character instead of a player? Man I’m too lazy to think about this shit.

TYG make a stronger case and post your role PM in full if you want my vote with you. Especially after saying “My condition doesn't align with town's interests at all shock lol” lol.

@Kyle …are you saying role!Dan happens to be Mafia, and player!Dan happens to be a neutral that needs to be lynched to win? That sounds abysmally coincidential… Occam’s razor?