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Reply #225 - 04/05/20 at 07:54:56

P.A.F.625 wrote on 04/05/20 at 07:17:52:

Not to mention, he posted this right after his claim:

no control wrote on 04/05/20 at 00:59:00:

Well that is unfortunate i obviously didn't switch those 2.

Making it obvious not only he didn't read BRay's claim immediately before, but that it was a blatant lie.

If you don't believe I'm TM then at least you could assume it is the Right reserve card.

But seriously, not only I am, my last post was 100% truthful. Shouldn't matter what you guys think, I'm glad it's so convenient. Leone's next post should give us the game-solve.

Are you actually dumb? Why would you even need Leone's help at all if your claim is truthful? You could just solve the game right now.

Honestly, right now I'm thinking you are indeed TM but switched YOURSELF with someone and are now trying to stir chaos, because u think that person was wolf and ur afraid ur buddy is going down?? I dont know if I can believe anything anymore from you.

If ur not an idiot and what you say is true then you would not need leone's help at all...

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You should all listen to Timur. He's an onion.

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Zwiebel Legend Offline Kmaccy-Fan punched 6670 kiddies Stuttgart Gender:	Re: ONUW2 - Quarantine Boogaloo DAY PHASE Reply #226 - 04/05/20 at 07:56:21 Everyone needs to come the fuck in and claim what they think happened at night
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Reply #227 - 04/05/20 at 08:00:40

Zwiebel wrote on 04/05/20 at 07:54:56:

P.A.F.625 wrote on 04/05/20 at 07:17:52:

Not to mention, he posted this right after his claim:

no control wrote on 04/05/20 at 00:59:00:

Well that is unfortunate i obviously didn't switch those 2.

Making it obvious not only he didn't read BRay's claim immediately before, but that it was a blatant lie.

If you don't believe I'm TM then at least you could assume it is the Right reserve card.

But seriously, not only I am, my last post was 100% truthful. Shouldn't matter what you guys think, I'm glad it's so convenient. Leone's next post should give us the game-solve.

Are you actually dumb? Why would you even need Leone's help at all if your claim is truthful? You could just solve the game right now.

Honestly, right now I'm thinking you are indeed TM but switched YOURSELF with someone and are now trying to stir chaos, because u think that person was wolf and ur afraid ur buddy is going down?? I dont know if I can believe anything anymore from you.

If ur not an idiot and what you say is true then you would not need leone's help at all...

Leone can now safely come in and reveal his original role without any doubts. Sorry, but it seems like you drew the short straw this game.

Also, PAF can't switch himself.

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Reply #228 - 04/05/20 at 08:04:41

Yeah PAF can't switch himself, says so pretty clearly at the roles at the beginning, which Zwiebel does seem to understand pretty well so not sure what to think of that.

I also don't buy the Hunter claim tbh. I'm starting to think that Hunter was actually the Reserve card. Zwiebel could have set up the Hunter claim easily with his misspellings and hints as Minion (and never point them out if he decides to not claim Hunter), then get suspicion raised on himself and try to get Town to shoot him as actual Minion, Town believing that a shot on a Hunter claim is pretty safe.

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Reply #230 - 04/05/20 at 08:35:59

Shock wrote on 04/05/20 at 08:04:41:

I also don't buy the Hunter claim tbh. I'm starting to think that Hunter was actually the Reserve card. Zwiebel could have set up the Hunter claim easily with his misspellings and hints as Minion (and never point them out if he decides to not claim Hunter), then get suspicion raised on himself and try to get Town to shoot him as actual Minion, Town believing that a shot on a Hunter claim is pretty safe.

Why would he then immediately say "Zoran is maf" when PAF revealed that he switched the two of them? The only way possible is if he knew Zoran was WW as Minion, but would you expect a player like him to go all-in like that in the middle of the game?

Also, if Zwiebel is Minion, which of the following in your previous prediction are changed?

Shock wrote on 04/05/20 at 05:42:48:

Also you guys are just gonna believe K-9 like that? Christ. Wolves are K-9 and Zoran, TvK Minion.

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TvK NinjaTvK Offline ate 5510 donuts Belgium Gender:	Re: ONUW2 - Quarantine Boogaloo DAY PHASE Reply #231 - 04/05/20 at 08:38:17 Leone and Zoran are the original WW team, Shock is Minion. Safest vote is Zwiebel (switched with Zoran). Leone, can you please come in and confirm it for the people who are still not convinced that we won the game?
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TvK NinjaTvK Offline ate 5510 donuts Belgium Gender:	Re: ONUW2 - Quarantine Boogaloo DAY PHASE Reply #232 - 04/05/20 at 08:40:19 PAF, I'm totally on board with you this time. Let's just finish this up.
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Reply #233 - 04/05/20 at 08:44:31

Just to fill out everything else:

Doppelganger: right card -> Wazz (drunk)
Werewolves: Zoran -> Zwiebel (TM switch); Leone
Minion: Shock
Masons: TvK; left/center card (seer confirmed)
Seer: TYG
Robber: K9
Troublemaker: PAF
Drunk: Wazz -> right card
Insomniac: Brian
Tanner: left/middle card (seer confirmed)
Hunter: Zwiebel -> Zoran (TM switch)

100% solved, we cannot lose from here.

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Reply #234 - 04/05/20 at 09:04:43

APPROXIMATELY 3 HOURS REMAIN. REMEMBER TO SEND ME VOTES VIA FORUM PM, THERE IS NO PUBLIC VOTING IN THIS GAME.

As an additional note, I will need to leave pretty quickly after the day phase ends, so if everyone submits their votes in a timely manner, I will post the result immediately. Otherwise, I'll post the result as soon as I have a chance later after all votes are in. Remember that voting is mandatory - all players must cast a vote for another player in the game (no self-votes, no votes for the reserve cards).

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You could also do it just because you enjoyed hopping for no reason.

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P.A.F.625 King Offline 3923 holabolas Portugal Gender:	Re: ONUW2 - Quarantine Boogaloo DAY PHASE Reply #235 - 04/05/20 at 09:13:04 TvK did you not notice my last claim? I switched Zweiebel with Leone not Zoran. Though I guess that doesn’t change anything for you since you believe Zoran and Leone to be the WWs. Am I the only one who noticed Leone was online 15-30 minutes ago? Uh…….
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Reply #236 - 04/05/20 at 09:15:58

P.A.F.625 wrote on 04/05/20 at 09:13:04:

TvK did you not notice my last claim? I switched Zweiebel with Leone not Zoran. Though I guess that doesn’t change anything for you since you believe Zoran and Leone to be the WWs.
Am I the only one who noticed Leone was online 15-30 minutes ago? Uh…….

Yeah sorry, I obviously mean Leone. Otherwise there would be no reason for me to want Leone to come in here and confirm our victory. Zwiebel is still the one we need to vote.

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Reply #237 - 04/05/20 at 09:24:33

TvK, Shock could still be the Doppelgänger and copied wolf from Leone. In this case the minion card would have been the one Wazz picked up on the right or Zoran is minion and the wolf card is on the right. In this scenario shock and Leone were the original Wolves. Making the team now Shock and Zweibel. Also if Shock copied Minion Leone then Wazz picked up the wolf card making Zoran his original and current buddy. Please tell me if this is wrong but I feel like voting Zoran is the safest option to NOT get a minion.

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TvK NinjaTvK Offline helped 5510 people Belgium Gender:	Re: ONUW2 - Quarantine Boogaloo DAY PHASE Reply #238 - 04/05/20 at 09:30:37 Anyway, Leone is GUARANTEED to not be on the Wolf team, no matter if he's original Wolf or Minion. He has to come in and give us all the information he can give us!
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Reply #239 - 04/05/20 at 09:32:32

Yes I'm pretty sure Shock is DopMinion or DopWolf. And I'll admit there's a good chance Wazz is on the W-team now.
I'm not sure why TvK seems to be sure of the roles even though he got the team right more or less.
Was hoping Leone could just tell us everything, but I've seen him online again. You think he doesn't trust my claim? Only 2.5 hours left...

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Reply #240 - 04/05/20 at 09:35:04

P.A.F.625 wrote on 04/05/20 at 09:32:32:

Yes I'm pretty sure Shock is DopMinion or DopWolf. And I'll admit there's a good chance Wazz is on the W-team now.
I'm not sure why TvK seems to be sure of the roles even though he got the team right more or less.
Was hoping Leone could just tell us everything, but I've seen him online again. You think he doesn't trust my claim? Only 2.5 hours left...

This is the exact reason why he has to come in now. Nobody is hiding anything anymore, it's too late for that!

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Reply #242 - 04/05/20 at 10:29:18

Man I'm struggling with this, I feel like if everyone in town was just honest to begin with here the game would be so much smoother lol I really don't understand how this meta evolved into everyone and their mom fakeclaiming. I'm still not sure what to think, but TvK is looking way better all of a sudden, and I find it hard to believe k9 would fakeclaim robber there as maf so leone and shock aren't looking great which is kinda crazy since shock's claim seemed so good and had super fast turnaround to mine.

We definitely need something conclusive from paf lol

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Reply #243 - 04/05/20 at 10:39:04

TYG I didn't fucking lie, what else do you want me to do???

TvK wrote on 04/05/20 at 08:35:59:

Shock wrote on 04/05/20 at 08:04:41:

I also don't buy the Hunter claim tbh. I'm starting to think that Hunter was actually the Reserve card. Zwiebel could have set up the Hunter claim easily with his misspellings and hints as Minion (and never point them out if he decides to not claim Hunter), then get suspicion raised on himself and try to get Town to shoot him as actual Minion, Town believing that a shot on a Hunter claim is pretty safe.

Why would he then immediately say "Zoran is maf" when PAF revealed that he switched the two of them? The only way possible is if he knew Zoran was WW as Minion, but would you expect a player like him to go all-in like that in the middle of the game?

How I first interpreted his post was that he was W-aligned, so with my fake-claimed switch, Zoran was. I think that's what he meant.

Even though I feel Shock is just trying to confuse, there IS a chance Zwiebel was minion and Hunter is the right centre card. This would mean he thought I switched him with WW-Zoran and tried to get Min-Zoran lynched.
This means I switched minion with WW-Leone and he isn’t helping us, maybe he won’t even post. The problem is Zwiebel's Hunter claim would sound believable to the WWs, you think they say through him?
In this case, we still have to make sure we have a good idea who to vote 30 min before EoD, so ~50 minutes from now...

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P.A.F.625 King Offline ate 3923 donuts Portugal Gender:	Re: ONUW2 - Quarantine Boogaloo DAY PHASE Reply #245 - 04/05/20 at 10:47:29 I really don't think it's easy to distinguish wolf from minion, we're far from winning
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TvK NinjaTvK Offline 5510 days karting Belgium Gender:	Re: ONUW2 - Quarantine Boogaloo DAY PHASE Reply #246 - 04/05/20 at 10:49:08 The silence of the wolfteam is their confession of guilt. Don't start to overthink it now PAF, have faith in Occam's razor. We vote Zwiebel and this game is 99,9% over and we have won it! Leone can come in and confirm the final 0,1%, but in my mind he doesn't even have to anymore!
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Reply #247 - 04/05/20 at 10:50:44

PAF there is an hour and 15 minutes until EoD. And I agree about Zweibel possibly being Minion, Minions as well as Tanners benefit by claiming Hunter. However in this case I think this is a huge mistake to vote for the hunter since Leone is clearly mafia, making Zweibel mafia, Zweibel would have no incentive to vote the way we want him to. He can't be trusted now. As crazy as Leone's gameplay is sometimes town Leaone would have revealed by now. I feel like we should be discussing who we want to vote for at this point. I expect a last ditch Hail Mary effort by maf Leone...don't let it fool you.

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