I'm the real TM which means i'm still TM. I switched Tvk and Brian. Brian because i couldn't read him properly in the last game and Tvk i had the same problem in one old game. Others i can read better then those 2 so i wanted them where they are.

I think out there are 3 wolves and a minion or 2 minions and 2 wolves.

I was quite confident doing a fake claim because i thought this will drop easily and we will get info, but it didn't work out. I liked Tvk because he was challenging PAFs claim which i knew is fake.

This all means PAF, Leone, Shock and Zwiebel lied to frame me. T9-clock is obv the real robber and Shock is the 3rd maf or minion who was Doppelgänger at the beginning.

Unfortunately TYG claim was perfect for them, but they knew i might not be a mason and i can still bring this all down so they framed me.

Haha holy shit

ok so yeah I lied about my claim somewhat, that's the whole point of the early game, sus out what happened - I didn't rob Zoran I robbed PAF (cuz fuck u paf u made me lose last game after i made u win then u threw it away and got modkilled so this game i stole ur role )

which makes me a defunct TM if paf is telling the truth, meaning paf's switch failed

meaning zweebil is still some sort of scum

also LOL what the fuck zoran

i dont believe that for a nanomicropicosecond

ok so heres what i learned from faking the zoran=mason bit:

IF ZORAN IS LYING (which i think is overwhelmingly likely given he thinks hes currently wolf-aligned, hence the TM claim just now)

>a mason is probably in the reserve or they would have counter-claimed (or tvk might be mason fucking with us for info)
>zoran just went along with it the whole game until literally right now, and I see Tanner!Zoran or Minion!Zoran doing that but not wolf!zoran due to risk calculation factors

based on these developments i think zoran is tanner or minion (more likely minion if tyg told the truth) and zwiebel is wolf

idk what the fuck k-9 clock is doing by trying to throw me under the bus, smthn for reactions? could be shitty tanner or wolf play? who knows

actually fuck zoran could be equally likely wolf/minion/tanner, cuz he went ahead and bought into my fake early on but then after the paf-tm-claim he CC'd paf's TM after paf claimed he swappled zwebile and zoran, aand aftur zweebel throew him under the bus

idk what the play here is, but I dont see both zweibelle and zoran both being inno, hell i think theyre both some sort of evil lol

aemm i missing a ny thing?

Also TYG said he saw Mason and Tanner in the middle, we should keep that in mind.

I think teh onion, original minion, could've still "outed" his teammate Zoran, would give an easy win for them.

Leone, I think you're 95% lying. But either way I don't think that's how robber works, my switch didn't fail lmao.

Hahahaha lolllll

This is getting steamy so I might as well reveal my real role.
I've never been any Werewolf affiliated role, I just wanted to see everyones reaction to it(especially zoran's). My reason for that is: Only the minion would know that my claim was bullshit(because he would know I wasn't the minion AND he would also know that I wasn't one of the starting werewolfs). The thing is, I'm pretty sure I fooled the wolves into thinking I was the minion, which means they either would want to push for a zoran lynch(cause they would think he's now minion and an easy target) or me(esp if PAF was part of the Maf team!! since he would know that his claim is false and that I would still be "minion" and they would win if they get to lynch me).

The thing is: Zoran, do you still claim what you just claimed? Or did you just do it because you believe PAF and thought you would actually be a maf member now? Cause if he actually would've switched us, you would not be Wolf or Minion, you would be

drum roll

hunter


I actually spread some hints throughout some of my posts to tell you that I am/was actually the hunter. I will show you these posts in a minute. I was thinking about letting me just get lynched and then shooting my prime suspect, but since I'm not 100% convinced  that I'm still the hunter there's some risk to it so I just decided I will reveal my plan.

Also I used all these gun smileys all over the place and I thought maybeeee someone would get it. Dunno if ot worked

Also we're at a point where not telling the full truth might fuck us over, so u better say the truth right about now so I can solve this shit from here on out.

Come on friends whatcha got, I see you

Still think {Shock, Leone, Zoran} could be the W-team. Maybe even just {Shock Leone} assuming Zoran only lied because he assumed he was now evil, but then wouldn't he call on Leone for his first claim?

Zwiebel wrote on 04/05/20 at 05:12:05:


The only thing speaking for Shock is that nobody counterclaimed Doppelganger. And with only 1 unknown card in the middle (the one presumably Wazz has now), it would have been a really good guess to pick exactly that role. The only way Shock as wolf would have looked at the middle, would have been if he was alone, which would mean Leone cannot be his partner. Leone could be Minion, but Shock has no way of knowing this and can't take that chance.

Leone on the other hand has been counterclaimed, has been very inconsistent in his targets and I much rather believe K9's claim over his. Tanner is in the middle, so the only thing we need to decide now: how big is the chance that Leone is the Minion? I'd say there's a fair chance, because Wolf!Leone's claims would have been better than this. I have the feeling he's trying to get himself lynched.