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Question: What do we do with suiryu?

Put all his post-WFC times on pending.  
  32 (78%)
Allow all his times other than the 2:20.475  
  7 (17%)
Something else (post below)  
  2 (4.8%)




Total votes: 41
« Last Modified by: Arvo57 on: 11/10/19 at 10:31:32 »

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Suiryu, (hopefully) final poll.
11/10/19 at 10:07:16
 
Since the discussion about suiryu has calmed down and a decision hasn't been made, I'd like us to decide this matter with a poll. If new information comes up, that should be taken into account, but the people have already had the chance to speak and the general opinions and reasonable decisions (at least in my opinion) have seemed to be either:

1. Put all of his times that were set after the break he took roughly at WFC shutdown on pending.
(BCWii 2:21.222 and better, CM 1:56.612 etc.)

or

2. Allow all his times apart from the BCWii 2:20.475 (Keep things as they are)


We'll see how the results turn out, I'd be happy to decide this by a community vote, since this conversation will likely go nowhere otherwise because we have no contact with suiryu himself.

If you need to refresh your knowledge about the suiryu case, check the discussion thread here: http://www.mariokart64.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1572603060

Regardless of the outcome of this poll, further runs from suiryu should not be accepted unless they are set on CTGP.

Let's finally put this mess to rest please
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Reply #1 - 11/10/19 at 11:01:35
 
Even though I am not that much into the TT community and don't expect my opinion to have much of a value to you guys:

IMO if you count his old times you should count all of them including the BCWii one, suiryu was known as a really honorful online player back when he was active and I doubt he would cheat personally

on top of that I think his CM WR was way more fishy than the BCWii one, on CM he got literal perfect RNG for every strat while the BCWii run just looks like a really consistent run which looks similar to his old WRs

main concern would be the fact that Nagisa uploads the runs, hard to tell if those times are even set by suiryu

I know japanese players that still have contact to him, so I could technically gather more information if needed
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Reply #2 - 11/10/19 at 11:41:42
 
Like I mentioned in the previous thread, I'm in favor of pending just his post-WFC runs, as unlike his established records, the new records are just a little too flukey, plus we don't have any way to verify them.

JFF wrote on 11/10/19 at 11:01:35:
I know japanese players that still have contact to him, so I could technically gather more information if needed


That would be a great help Jeff, please do so.
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Reply #3 - 11/10/19 at 14:53:50
 
As someone who believes all of the times are legit I think they should all be put pending regardless of what I think, because there is absolutely no harm in pending all of his times until further proven to be legitimate. I wish Nim's situation could have been resolved like this, but egos are a tough thing to overcome  Roll Eyes Although it seems like on the actual WR site Nim's times are under pending as well despite people tarnishing his name at basically every chance.
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Reply #4 - 11/10/19 at 15:13:01
 
FY wrote on 11/10/19 at 14:53:50:
As someone who believes all of the times are legit I think they should all be put pending regardless of what I think, because there is absolutely no harm in pending all of his times until further proven to be legitimate. I wish Nim's situation could have been resolved like this, but egos are a tough thing to overcome  Roll Eyes Although it seems like on the actual WR site Nim's times are under pending as well despite people tarnishing his name at basically every chance.


Yeah, Nim was never banned. We put his runs on pending and he never proved them, claiming he sold his wii.

I think this is a reasonable decision by the community.
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Reply #5 - 11/10/19 at 20:53:48
 
pending for sure
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Reply #6 - 11/13/19 at 03:17:24
 
Pending, with an emphasis on someone eventually contacting him.
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Reply #7 - 11/24/19 at 15:48:47
 
If you want to accuse a player like suiry that will never respond or answer any of your/our questions, case will never get solved. Stop wasting your time.
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Reply #8 - 12/03/19 at 12:30:02
 
Just check everyone's times, we've had many hackers in this community. I'd say to have any time without live proof or on ctgp that hasn't been posted online be tested.
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