Hey there fellas

There's something that's been annoying to me lately. The increase of low quality video proof. I don't mean to throw anyone under the bus, but I will mention two recent WRs as examples: Chris Wild's DP2 PAL f-lap and Eric Olden's CI2 NTSC 5-lap.

Why does it annoy me: I am a "visual" learner. I learn more from watching good videos at 0,25x speed than from grinding the track per se.

These two videos I cited are, no doubt, very good times. But by watching the videos I learn NOTHING. They prove no more than an end screen picture to me. And the worst part about it is not even quality: it's the unfixed camera.

So, what I'm asking of everyone playing the game and recording videos: please, PLEASE, do fixed camera videos. There are a lot of ways of doing fixed camera videos, even for 5-lap attempts. Most obvious solution is live recording (Goldeneye has been doing that for ages, to great success), be it with a capture card, VCR, camera-on-a-stand, you name it. I honestly thing we should change the proof standards to have fixed camera as a requisite.

The feeling I have is that we are regressing on a very sensitive topic, in a moment we should be going forward regarding proof and video archive. I don't think I'm asking much. I have a measure stick that if I can do it, anyone can.

TLDR: change the proof requisite to allow only videos with fixed camera

P.s.: I'm not asking to retroactively screw people btw. What's done is done

KVD wrote on 08/28/19 at 05:36:32:


Agreed with Karel and Guiherme on this. We do need to make sure that we are doing quality videos as this is a standard across all games that have record setting or speed running.

With the technology now it is very straightforward to get the setup as Karel said. There are plenty of players on here who can help show others what they need and what to do if they are not sure.

If you absolutely have to record a video that will be on a phone or another device (for example at CDM or another games event, as I know Christian was attempting records at CDM so it would have to be done this way) please do your best to ensure that you can get a quality video or test with another persons recording device so it is not blurred etc.

Otherwise at home do the live recording.only. Karel a lot of the old videos from 10 plus years ago we all had quality problems. My old Non-nbt MC1s were awful with the shadow lines and flickering so there was no way I was doing the 57, 1'00"99 etc with my phone or digital camera again.

So Christian / Eric and anyone else, if you read this would you be able to purchase the equipment? Wel help you with the setup if need.

Thanks.

Brazilian SMK player asking for better video proof quality is the best joke I've read on this section for ages.

Guys, I have the equipment, and I tried to set it up, but my computer refused to use my grabber as source. I tried a lot of stuff and it just doesn't work with my PAL snes. it works with everything else just fine, with my NTSC SNES, PAL/NTSC N64. with Game Cube Games, just for some reason not with my PAL SNES.. if anyone knows more about that stuff and can give me a guide on how to make my pc recognize it as video source please tell me :p

Awesome.
Very glad to read those replies from Chris and Eric.
I was afraid you guys might take what I brought up personally. I couldn't be more excited knowing both of you guys are working towards a better video system.

Chris, I heard you already got help from Moll, right?

Eric, let us know if there's anything (and I mean ANYTHING) we can do to help you with your setup.

I'm thinking of going back to KB1 so I can have those black bars constantly moving up the screen while I record.

Antistar wrote on 08/29/19 at 01:49:32:


You have to remember that Brazil actually uses a variant of PAL, so Brazilian TV sets may not be able to display older video games (which are released in Brazil in NTSC format) correctly. For starters, I believe that games will run in black and white when played in Brazil, at least older games played on older sets, as I've seen several SMK videos from Brazil that were in black and white.

My own videos have been in black and white due to this NTSC/PAL mismatch. If I come back to NTSC and drive a PR that I feel is good enough for a video, the video will be in color and will be better quality than the PAL videos that I've made.

Hi guys!

I carefully followed this topic and I hope you're not talking about making live recording compulsory for video proofs.
We're speaking of a TT competition on a 27-year-old game running on a 27-year-old system, for which players have to play on the original device. Even if this is totally understandable, this is already a rather big obstacle for many people. So please, don't add another obstacle.
Nowadays, nearly everyone has something (smartphone, digital camera, webcam) to "externally" record their screens so it's not a problem to ask for video proof for times that "need" it. But asking for live recording is not the same thing. Be it cheap or not, easy to use or not, a live recording device is something everyone won't have because it has a much narrower use than the other devices I mentioned earlier. Of course, I know it's better (especially for 5-lap videos to avoid the crappy mobile replays) and should be recommended... but in no way compulsory.

However, whatever decision you make towards live recording (recommended or compulsory, which I strongly don't hope), I think it would be good to add a tutorial on the site to explain to people (who're ok to do it) how to proceed.

These were my 2 cents. Cheers everyone!

InnovΔ wrote on 09/05/19 at 07:06:42:


I know Right!?!?

All these dang PAL players playing NTSC.  

We had PAL-M and PAL-N on our TVs
Not sure what that meant though