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Reply #125 - 08/03/22 at 16:33:13
 
Vloddy Kart 7 wrote on 08/03/22 at 04:25:13:
Paul Allain wrote on 08/03/22 at 03:11:12:
I also send a thought for a young guy who tragically passed away in a work accident in our company this week. He was almost 19 years old, and will be missed by a big family, including his 4 grandparents and 2 living great-grandmothers.



Oh God! Imagine getting outlived by your great-grandparents! It is really sad. Did you know the guy?


Never heard of him before, just saw the press release announcing the tragic accident. Later, I checked the obituary to see if I recognized his face (I did not), but read the list of condolences, and noticed the tidbit about the great-grandparents. It's already a small-ish town and a fairly sociable company, but to see it's a four-living generation family of adults facing this grief, that is heartbreaking.
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Reply #126 - 08/07/22 at 05:52:54
 
R.I.P Archie Battersbee



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Reply #127 - 08/08/22 at 12:16:58
 
Now the world mourns the loss of legendary Australian singer and actress, Olivia Newton-John.

My family used to play her Greatest Hits Volume 2 LP all the time when I was a kid so I was always familiar with her late '70s and early '80s hits. We especially liked "Xanadu", her collaboration with the Electric Light Orchestra from the 1980 film of the same name. I always thought that was such a cool song as a kid, and it also introduced me to ELO.

I own most of ONJ's studio albums on CD, cassette, or LP, and also have her comprehensive "Magic" collection of 21 greatest hits so I know her music quite well.

One time my family was eating at an Outback Steakhouse and I saw a menu item called "Cheesecake Olivia", and given the restaurant's Australian theme, I assumed they named it in honor of ONJ.

As celebrities-- not to mention family members and pets-- continue topass on from this world, it really feels as if there's just this void that is constantly expanding and consuming the world I grew up in, Final Fantasy V-style.
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Reply #128 - 08/08/22 at 16:37:41
 
Harvey Kartel wrote on 08/08/22 at 12:16:58:
Now the world mourns the loss of legendary Australian singer and actress, Olivia Newton-John.

My family used to play her Greatest Hits Volume 2 LP all the time when I was a kid so I was always familiar with her late '70s and early '80s hits. We especially liked "Xanadu", her collaboration with the Electric Light Orchestra from the 1980 film of the same name. I always thought that was such a cool song as a kid, and it also introduced me to ELO.

I own most of ONJ's studio albums on CD, cassette, or LP, and also have her comprehensive "Magic" collection of 21 greatest hits so I know her music quite well.

One time my family was eating at an Outback Steakhouse and I saw a menu item called "Cheesecake Olivia", and given the restaurant's Australian theme, I assumed they named it in honor of ONJ.

As celebrities-- not to mention family members and pets-- continue topass on from this world, it really feels as if there's just this void that is constantly expanding and consuming the world I grew up in, Final Fantasy V-style.



I also think ''Xanadu'' is pretty neat, never realized that ONJ was involved.
Also, not even one tiny mention about Grease ?   It's pretty much her biggest legacy, with the ''Physical'' videoclip as a distant second.


As for the impression of more celebrities dying, I also felt so a bit, and tried to understand. My reasoning is such :

- The older you get, the more people you know
- The older you get, the older they also get, thus more chances of them passing away.
- The more time passes, the more avenue people get to become ''famous'' (internet being the main source of Q-Mark here), so the more people whose eventual demise will be noticeable AND widely talked about.


If I may get a but philosophical, it really is just the normal cycle of life that living being that occupied your past eventually fade away, which is why cultivating space for new people to have meaning in the present and future is the way to go. Nostalgia can be cozy, but let's not neglect the contemporary pleasures.
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Reply #129 - 08/09/22 at 14:04:20
 
Well, Grease wasn't part of my childhood the way her music was, that was why I didn't mention it.

Soul Kiss has always been my favorite ONJ studio album, with Physical coming in second. IMO The Rumour marked the beginning of a decline in the quality of her music, and Back With a Heart was just crap (never have checked out Gaea which came in between).

And the Xanadu soundtrack has a really cool collaboration with the Tubes, the film showcases that song quite well. A shame that the film was widely considered a flop, I think I actually like Xanadu more than I do Grease!  (have yet to give Two of a Kind a watch)
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Reply #130 - 08/10/22 at 03:29:32
 
R.I.P Raymond Briggs, creator of The Snowman

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Reply #131 - 08/16/22 at 10:59:47
 
We don’t know how but, Darius Danesh, who came third on Pop Idol 2002 has died at only 41
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Reply #132 - 08/19/22 at 14:32:45
 
We have lost the life of national treasure Josephine Tewson. She was Elizabeth, the nervous next-door neighbour in Keeping up Appearances and Miss Davenport in Last of the Summer Wine
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Reply #133 - 09/08/22 at 09:52:18
 
God Save The Queen...

Have a long and happy life in heaven, HM Queen Elizabeth II


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Reply #134 - 09/08/22 at 21:05:13
 
Toddmk7 wrote on 09/08/22 at 09:52:18:
God Save The Queen...

Have a long and happy life in heaven, HM Queen Elizabeth II


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Morbid coincidence :  Her death comes 8 days after the 25th anniversary of the death of her ex-daughter-in-law Diana Spencer.
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Reply #135 - 09/09/22 at 18:42:51
 
I was really hoping we'd see a 100-year-old Liz on the throne in 2026. Now we'll have to wait until... 2048 for the next possibility of a centenarian British monarch?

Funnily, Liz's last royal duty was to swear in a fellow Liz as PM. In the span of a week, Britain has has to replace both its monarch and its PM (has this ever happened in the country's history?)

All joking aside, Her Majesty deserves the biggest funeral the modern world has ever seen. I hope it will be attended by anybody who's anybody in Britain. From music legends like Elton John, Mick Jagger, Brian May, and the two surviving Beatles, to today's hottest stars like Ed Sheeran or Dua Lipa, as well as top athletes, actors, TV personalities, Chasers and yes, Karters (c'mon Godfather Sami we all know you had to have played SMK for the Queen at some point!)

Britain, as I've mentioned before on this forum, is one of the greatest nations Earth has ever seen and it has so many great people past and present to represent it on the world stage. I really would love to see all of the nation's notables come together in mourning the passing of one of the most prominent people in its long, proud history.

God Save the Queen... and new King.
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Reply #136 - 09/09/22 at 19:42:02
 
Harvey Kartel wrote on 09/09/22 at 18:42:51:
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Huh You are aware of Britain's long history of colonialism, right? Even if you accept decolonization as 100% successful, I'm not sure how anyone could look back on what they've done in places such as India, China, Ireland, Africa, and several others and be proud of it.
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Reply #137 - 09/09/22 at 20:56:39
 
Vinnie927 wrote on 09/09/22 at 19:42:02:
Harvey Kartel wrote on 09/09/22 at 18:42:51:
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Huh You are aware of Britain's long history of colonialism, right? Even if you accept decolonization as 100% successful, I'm not sure how anyone could look back on what they've done in places such as India, China, Ireland, Africa, and several others and be proud of it.


Three things :

- Harvey thinks USA are the greatest in history, because money (amongst other things). This is the framemind at play, so consider that when arguing.

- England and/or UK has history spanning, give or take, 1500 years. Expect a lot of good and a lot of bad, so to say ''Colonialism, so fuck Shakespeare, be ashamed assholes'', is like saying to China ''PRC, so fuck Paper and printing, be ashamed assholes''.   Nuanced analysis prevents glorification, but also condescending damnation.

- As for the subject at end, it's a tribute topic on people that sadly passed away, so the other discussion is more suited for the WWIII topic, which already brushed the subject of ''What makes a nation great''.
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Reply #138 - 09/09/22 at 22:43:02
 
Vinnie927 wrote on 09/09/22 at 19:42:02:
Harvey Kartel wrote on 09/09/22 at 18:42:51:
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Huh You are aware of Britain's long history of colonialism, right?


Of course, but the fact that they were able to colonise so much of the world was proof that they were one of the most advanced civilizations on the planet for the latter half of the last millennium. Plus, they helped their language to become the most important language to know in the world bar none.  (Sorry French though you did have your turn.)

While the colonial British Empire may not have exactly pampered their overseas subjects through the centuries, we've got to give the devil his due and admire the fact that they (and the French) actually possessed the means to claim large chunks of the globe for their Kings and Queens of old, propagating their languages and cultures in the process.

So I mourn along with the 60 million people of a truly "Great" Britain as well as the billion-plus people across the Commonwealth countries. It really is a sad time for one of the most successful and prosperous nations in human history.
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Reply #139 - 09/10/22 at 01:54:12
 
Vinnie927 wrote on 09/09/22 at 19:42:02:
Harvey Kartel wrote on 09/09/22 at 18:42:51:
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Huh You are aware of Britain's long history of colonialism, right? Even if you accept decolonization as 100% successful, I'm not sure how anyone could look back on what they've done in places such as India, China, Ireland, Africa, and several others and be proud of it.


I'm proud of it, I'm proud of what the western culture has done to the world up until recently. I'm proud of it because it led to huge increase in life quality around the world.
Any other culture would have done much worse. Not all cultures are the same, in fact none of them are same or equal, some are just way better.

My ancestors have been under foreign rule for literally 1000 years (Western , Eastern, Muslim) and we had our own rule. I can tell you that being under Austria (western influence) was BY FAR the best thing that ever happened to my country.

If the west somehow magically never came I would be still either running around with a spear or more likely dead by some "simple" health problem.

Unfortunately, the west is trying to destroy itself and the charge is led by a bunch of spoiled rich kids (this is how the rest of the world sees this far left woke youth) who have no idea what the consequences will be.

In the 90's, America and the west was perceived as unbeatable and strong by the rest of the world so no one dared to take it down, now it is not the case anymore.
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Reply #140 - 09/10/22 at 18:39:08
 
Without derailing this thread too much further, I admit I know almost nothing about your country so I can't make any definitive statements about it, but based on what you said it would be incorrect to characterize colonialism as a 100% evil which killed everything it touched. Like you said, it does seem a bit out of touch when people say things like 'you'd have been happier without any Western influence whatsoever!' because people imagine the good stuff will happen anyway, and if you get rid of the bad stuff nothing good will disappear.

Some people (including myself to some extent) feel that praising the Queen is essentially sweeping all of the horrors of colonialism, and the monarchy as a whole, under the rug. I am aware that decolonization essentially happened entirely under her reign, so to characterize her as nothing but a bloodthirsty psychopath who loved genocide is clearly a gigantic stretch. But at the same time, she didn't have a spotless record. It really does seem that both groups of people completely ignore some of the things she's done, with some thinking the good things are irrelevant when compared to the bad things, and others thinking that the good things do balance out.

I didn't want to immediately discount what you had to say because it doesn't line up with the people I follow on Twitter, because of course your perspective is far closer to what's actually happening than that of an American who's never left the country. At the same time, I admit I am hesitant to take it at face value. What I can glean is that this is a complicated topic where it is almost impossible to have absolute statements, so making such statements as I did is ultimately unproductive, even if I still agree with them, because what I said was reductive. You didn't necessarily misinterpret me, it's just a difference of opinion where I reduced mine to the point where you couldn't really have a meaningful discussion regarding it.

I am trying to speak more about topics like this, and I really do appreciate your response because it's much more civil than you'd find on Twitter or Reddit.
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Reply #141 - 09/14/22 at 07:05:22
 
Vinnie927 wrote on 09/10/22 at 18:39:08:
because people imagine the good stuff will happen anyway, and if you get rid of the bad stuff nothing good will disappear.


The truth is exactly the opposite. Bad stuff was happening anyway, but the western culture brought something new which moved us forward and it likely wouldn't happen otherwise.

Vinnie927 wrote on 09/10/22 at 18:39:08:
Some people (including myself to some extent) feel that praising the Queen is essentially sweeping all of the horrors of colonialism, and the monarchy as a whole, under the rug. I am aware that decolonization essentially happened entirely under her reign, so to characterize her as nothing but a bloodthirsty psychopath who loved genocide is clearly a gigantic stretch. But at the same time, she didn't have a spotless record. It really does seem that both groups of people completely ignore some of the things she's done, with some thinking the good things are irrelevant when compared to the bad things, and others thinking that the good things do balance out.


It is impossible to measure people who were born and lived in completely different era by todays standards. Very simplified comparison would be to take any early 20th century sport champion or even much closer, early kart champions. By todays standards they are bad and they suck, but for their time they were ahead of time so in reality they were not bad at all.
You can apply the same to us, that future generations could look at us and they would perhaps see a bunch of monsters trying to kill the planet by that same standard.

Vinnie927 wrote on 09/10/22 at 18:39:08:
I didn't want to immediately discount what you had to say because it doesn't line up with the people I follow on Twitter, because of course your perspective is far closer to what's actually happening than that of an American who's never left the country. At the same time, I admit I am hesitant to take it at face value. What I can glean is that this is a complicated topic where it is almost impossible to have absolute statements, so making such statements as I did is ultimately unproductive, even if I still agree with them, because what I said was reductive. You didn't necessarily misinterpret me, it's just a difference of opinion where I reduced mine to the point where you couldn't really have a meaningful discussion regarding it.


Western culture is exported everywhere and i myself live in the west for almost 10 years now. I see the problems which the 1st world is facing and i understand the will to get even better, but it has taken a bad turn lately with movements like defund the police and talks about colonial history and reparations (there are more, but these 2 are the most wild). These are literally culture ending ideas and no normal person wants to see the west gone or "rebuilt".

It is always better to look at what people are doing then what they are saying. Every year you have 1 million people immigrating to EU from non-EU countries. Then you have even more illegal immigrants + immigrants from eastern EU countries. US numbers are similar. This is happening because the west is way, way better then any other option despite all it's flaws.

Croatia is EU and at the borders of the west and we have lost 15% of our population in last 30 years despite it being a better place to live then most of the world. This is how much better the west is so don't freaking destroy it please  Grin  
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Reply #142 - 09/14/22 at 12:02:40
 
no control wrote on 09/14/22 at 07:05:22:
It is impossible to measure people who were born and lived in completely different era by todays standards. Very simplified comparison would be to take any early 20th century sport champion or even much closer, early kart champions. By todays standards they are bad and they suck, but for their time they were ahead of time so in reality they were not bad at all.
You can apply the same to us, that future generations could look at us and they would perhaps see a bunch of monsters trying to kill the planet by that same standard.


Your analogy falls apart here. We really are a bunch of monsters trying to kill the planet, as seen with the growing number of entirely human-caused climate disasters (see floods in Pakistan this week, for example). There are people, I would say many people, who know this to be true, but there is little action being taken to prevent this. I would blame the people in power, who have financial interest in not taking action to save ourselves and the planet.

The same I think would apply to colonialism. There were certainly people at the time who understood the horrors of colonialism and would have campaigned and protested to end it. And there were people in power, such as the monarchy, who had a vested interest in maintaining it. So to say that we can't judge them I think is stupid. The standards of human morality have not changed so much in say, 75 years, that the abject destruction and exploitation of colonialism was fine back then.
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Reply #143 - 09/15/22 at 02:14:35
 
Max28 wrote on 09/14/22 at 12:02:40:
Your analogy falls apart here. We really are a bunch of monsters trying to kill the planet, as seen with the growing number of entirely human-caused climate disasters (see floods in Pakistan this week, for example).


Nope, we are not a bunch of monsters. It is easy to moralize and judge from the high ground where you have everything (information and time). Most people in this world don't have time to think about much else other then their own lives and they do not know that a certain problem exists. This is maybe common knowledge in the 1st world, but it is not common knowledge to the common people outside it.
Most are trying to improve their lives the best was they can and know and are not a bunch of monsters.

Max28 wrote on 09/14/22 at 12:02:40:
There are people, I would say many people, who know this to be true, but there is little action being taken to prevent this. I would blame the people in power, who have financial interest in not taking action to save ourselves and the planet.


Also not entirely true, we barely know this problem exist. It takes a lot of time to find a good viable solution which will actually fix the problem and not make it even worse. Just because we haven't found that solution yet doesn't mean it is an evil conspiracy, this takes a lot of time.

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Reply #144 - 09/15/22 at 15:33:40
 
If you clowns want a politics thread go make one! Smiley

>queen survives the pandemic dying peacefully in her 90's


After all the fake announcements for years it caught me off guard it was finally official this time, lel.

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Fred Franzia once said that if you get a group of consumers together and have a blind tasting between his $2 wine and a pricier $10 wine, most wouldn't be able to taste the difference.  The champion of affordable wine dies at age 79.

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Reply #145 - 09/15/22 at 23:38:22
 
Know nothing about the man or that ''Two Buck Chuck'' label that I hadn't ever heard before today, but just where the hell (or probably more accurately, WHEN the hell) could you find a bottle of wine for 2 dollars ?
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Reply #146 - 09/16/22 at 15:33:33
 
Aldi sells wine for $3 here.
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Reply #147 - 09/30/22 at 09:08:56
 
2 days late but Coolio has died aged 59.
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Reply #148 - 09/30/22 at 17:52:22
 
Toddmk7 wrote on 09/30/22 at 09:08:56:
2 days late but Coolio has died aged 59.


What could have been...


Late rapper Coolio will be featured in an upcoming episode of the "Futurama" reboot that he recorded weeks before his death.

The "Gangsta's Paradise" emcee, who died Wednesday at 59, will reprise his role of Kwanzaa-bot, the subversive series' Kwanzaa counterpart to its Santa Claus Robot and the Hanukkah Zombie. The rapper recorded both new music and original dialogue for the animated sci-fi comedy's 2023 revival on Hulu, according to series executive producer David X. Cohen.

“Coolio was one of my favorite guests,” Cohen told TMZ. “He was always totally upbeat and genuinely enjoyed coming in to record as his character Kwanzaa-bot.”

Not sure where they will take it but lmao, RIP.

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Reply #149 - 10/01/22 at 10:22:18
 
Toddmk7 wrote on 09/30/22 at 09:08:56:
2 days late but Coolio has died aged 59.


He went from spendin' most his life livin' in the Gangsta's Paradise, to going to the regular Paradise.
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