Yo dude. You're wild.

The permanent ban is a rule here because the whole thing is based off of trust. You break the trust and it's hard to get back. That's just the bottom line.

CTGP is a program my dude, that it allows it to check for foulplay. We didn't have that luxury here so we had to take the word. It wasn't dumb, it's all we had.

So yeah the rule is a bit archaic. I'm open to letting players back seeing as CTGP can check for this kind of shenanigans now. Unless of course that gets compromised, but until then. It's a good safeguard.

At the end of the day cheaters and I suppose liars are always going to try to submit fake records. Just is what it is.



And welcome back Jorge.

Well, this thread was unexpected.
It's really great to see you pop up and apologise after all these years. Yes, the best time to apologise would have been straight away, but the second best time is now, and I'm very glad that you made the decision to do so.

It's very interesting to see the overwhelming feeling of the community leaning towards forgiveness and redemption nowadays. And to be honest, I think I feel the same way now. I've been lurking around here since around the time of the mass bans, and I remember at the time raising a point of wanting to forgive one player in particular on rSL (someone in top ten, can't remember who), who had supposedly only cheated that time and no others due to a similar frustration with luck wheelies.

But, I was quite rightly convinced of the argument that Sorozone laid out, which is that we were a community based entirely on trust, and once that trust is gone, we simply don't have the tools/effort required to validate someone from there-on out.
Now the community is beholden to the wonderful efforts by Mr. Bean, Chadderz and Cole, I'm very glad to see that we have the tools to welcome back those who have changed, and redemption. When it comes down to it, cheating in a video game ranks pretty low on the list of shitty things that a person could do, so I do agree that welcoming people back after a sincere apology is the right way to go.

P.S. If Jay really is rejoining the community without making any attempt at all to apologise, could someone please do me a favour and tell him to fuck off on my behalf, thanks.

P.P.S. With regards to PP, I do think that perhaps the site rules could be overturned now we have CTGP (I don't strongly think this, just can't think of a strong reason why not). I would say MKW is an exception though because of existence of CTGP, and for example the MK64 PP should definitely still keep to the trust rule (but members of the Hab Trio are on there so who the fuck knows)

Looks like Jorge just got a 2:18.556 in Koopa Cape (5th WW) and has some 45 splits. He will beat Justin any day now Interested to see what will happen then

Welcome back btw. Glad to see you've matured with the rest of us The only gripe I really had with you is when you claimed to have found that KC ultra glitch (made me waste time grinding for hours trying to duplicate it) and of course, the SGB run. That run was what ultimately made me lose motivation and stop going for WR when I was so close at 2nd or 3rd WW Either way I don't give a fuck these days, I look forward to your streams.

I never really talk about the whole cheater debate but honestly I wouldn't mind if their CTGP runs got considered as legit as long as they would still be banned and excluded from the PP.

FYI - I too thought batman was Sorozone.

Oh wow, I saw this topic before but didn’t read it until now. Didn’t know it was you. What you did was a massively shitty thing to do but it’s good you’re (unpromptedly?) apologizing now. I’m OK with counting legit times outside of the PP so I have nothing to complain about here I guess.

Welcome back, Jorge.

All is forgiven.

(You ultra glitch lying faggot.)

Out of curiosity, did any other former cheaters that still active ever come forward and apologize like this? IE, Malleo, Jay, Rocky, etc.