You former cheaters are lucky CTGP exists. Without it majority of the community would not be welcoming you back to the leaderboards so carefree.
I agree with Chouy btw. Without strongly enforced punishments, people have the freedom to cheat without fear of losing anything. They might as well keep trying!
That's why the perma ban rule is a positive; I'm glad the PP abides to it at least. Be grateful other platforms accept your kind so you can build up your "reputation". Just don't fuck up again or else people will contradict their ideology and start pleading for your banishment!
PS: Can't wait for the day someone bypasses CTGP's anti-cheat mechanisms  

RosscoXz wrote on 02/10/19 at 02:33:45:


Just give it up.

Their perspective is fucked up already. They make it sound like its the worst thing you can ever do or that you cant ever forgive this. The World will go down if you dont keep rejecting former cheaters and give them a second chance. No no no instead of accepting changes you should keep hating and rejecting any form of humanity. Whatever mistake you do - you are fucked. No matter what. And if you were in puberty and did weird things just because you were naive you are still scum and that wont Change until you die in 50 years or something. And hey the dude apologized. Its nothing tho he is still scum and did a mistake 8 years ago. We are Robots we cant Change the rules about Lifeban. Its the perfect punishment for these dudes. No we only caused a divided community and more and more people despises the PP and its rules and our active players. We dont notice that this page is going downhill for the mkw scene. Most of us dont even play the game anymore nor dont we know that this page is only used for a few players who post records in the time Update thread.

I am glad this forum is not Leading the community anymore. I am believing that all these newcomers, and also players from back then including me are happy about this. Rules were made outside of the PP and accurate leaderboards were created with accurate rules and no stupid morals in any kind of Form. The Records (especially these on CTGP) are legit and it doesnt matter what anyone did or who is behind this record's name. What he did, what he looks like, what he thinks, what he eventually said or whatever. The record is legit. No tools were used. Its vanilla tts and the records were fucking set. Every player makes mistake some are fatal and have nothing to do with cheating. Some player's personalities are so fucked up that they are way worse Than cheating. I would rather have a really kind Jorge on the rankings than someone who just insults everyone everyday, talking shit or whatever he does in his freetime. Beating up kids or something.

But hey I can tell you, their times are allowed and of course they will be added because they did it legit. A top 10 or WR page should be accurate 100% it fucking doesnt matter who is behind this record. If vanilla TTs are legit, they will be added. End of the story.

I totally agree to the lifetimeban in the competitive scene on this site. The PP has its own rules and they should enforce them strictly. But gladly the main community moved on to accurate tops and better platforms so we dont have to Deal with this shit anymore.

Have a nice day.

RosscoXz wrote on 02/10/19 at 02:33:45:

100% accurate rankings isn't smart justification under normal circumstances. Certain people aren't gonna fully trust a cheater to always play legitimately. Trust stains a cheater. Trust cannot be ignored. People can't be mocked for having trust issues against someone. But luckily for everyone's sake, any potential trust issues are pretty much eliminated. Competition [+legitimacy] right now has never been more authentically fair and honest. So yes, cheaters you should be very fucking fortunate CTGP exists.  
You ask what's my point? Good job reading between the lines Or do you disagree with what I just said?

Personally idm what the PP does, I would never expect you boys to change the rules.

For MKLeaderboards, we know with ctgp that the time is legit. To make the tops more accurate, times that are done on CTGP will always count (unless pause buffering now), that's how things are done over there and that won't be changing.

Personally I'm pretty thankful that the PP does things differently. If someone manages to break CTGP we will have tops to revert back to. CTGP existing is the only reason that we're allowing former cheaters back. We're all pretty fortunate the there it (for now) a 100% way to prove times as legitimate.

Again, PP can do whatever the fuck they want, I and nobody else can really change that.

Batman5112 wrote on 02/10/19 at 10:33:02:


1. Nobody says you should accept his words or something like that. Maybe he talking bullshit but I am concentrating on his legit times he set now. CTGP eliminated the banlist immediately giving everyone the oppurtunity to start at 0. Ye boy, he got his times deleted and perma ban on this site. I am also not referring to you my friend, I dont know why you think my words were related to "Batman5112"'s post. Generally, I am speaking to everyone who has the same view as you tho and was reffering to all the posts that were made in the past regarding cheaters on this site, in videos, streams or discord chats.

2. Within the community, it's definitely a fucked up rule. But that's only my opinion. Of course outside of the mkw community everyone lives their lifes lol and compared to other "real life" punishments its nothing.
Also the perma-ban rule only exists here, on the pp. Blocking past-cheaters times to be added on the charts. But who said that this rule has been proven to be succesful? There are still cheater after this rule was implemented but with CTGP we don't have to deal with trust anymore. Set a time in ctgp and you are fine. If not, you should really prove that this time is legit. if you are a former cheater, your non ctgp  times wont count aswell. Its easy as that. CTGP is (as of now) 100% proof and every WR thats not proven to be legit or real should be refused.
Also you can just easily form this rule to block former cheater from the charts and its one of the rules who are strictly enforced. But in the end you who are strictly trying to enforce this insane rule, lose. Simply because most of the community despises the pp and its rule and created its own. And see, former cheaters are back (Not trying to cheat and improving the tops with legit times). Great  

3. "best of luck". Dude what are we trying to do at the moment? Creating accurate tops. We cant reach 100% (except every single top 10 time is done on ctgp). We are trying to build a top 10 that can be close to be 100% and we set standards for new times being added.

I dont insist to add their non-ctgp times (Facepalm). We are currently starting with implementing CTGP Only WRs (This rule already enforced on mkwrs by cole).

2/3 of the community insists on ignoring this site and concentrate on completely accurate/non moral top 10s and WRs. Why would you refuse times that are 100% legit? its stupid and shows me that (whoever refuses 100% legit WRs) is not smart (sorry whoever feels offended   )

I don't know if you are really that naive talking about suiryu's run. Maybe you are also one of this dudes who strictly defended mander back then (I strongly believe this just by looking at your response lol). But let me explain for the 34th time why his is not being added to mkwrs. Its not done on ctgp. CTGP not only shows us that a time is legit my friend. It also shows us that the record generally exists and is driven by the same player who calls himself suiryu. Maybe nagisa just took the WR with his Mii Name. Maybe he is using Slow-Mo code the whole time like mander did but was not caught yet? But hey we wont caught him since we dont even have a ghost to analyze his inputs. Maybe he is hiding and fooled us the whole time since making a fake run and just upload it on yt takes 10 minutes.

And if you are thinking "bUT wHy aRE aLl hIS OlD tiMES on mKWrs tHEN?
Simply because the community decided to add them and trust it. Now with CTGP, every non ctgp "WR" will be refused and suiryu was the first victim to this simple rule.

MKW Top 10s, WRs or whatever should be accurate, no matter what. No matter who got that time dude. The WR is the WR. Thats a straight fact, you cant deny it. I dont fucking care if anybody cheated or whatever. CTGP times are legit and are going to be a must have (they are already).

4.

I am actually referring to all the senseless discussions and it's shitty moral and neandertal-like thinking. You people should get the fuck over it. Legit times will be added, end of the story. Just what Arvo said, do your thing here on this idiotic site.

I also just like the fact that you guys think that we are promoting risk free cheating. You are so fucked up. Every fucker can update a non existent time or even a cheated time on this site and claim it to be legit but well, we rely on proven, accurate times now and nobody can just claim a time without proving it to be real. Risk free cheating (still laughing). As if someone starts cheating just because Jorge Legit times are being added. That does not make fucking sense. The only thing it shows is that you need ctgp in order to upload times. And if you are on the banlist, do the same. Whenever you try to pass non-ctgp times as legit youre fucked. Use ctgp and everything is alright. Its not 2012 anymore where everyone can cheat. Get your facts straight, take MKW history lessons and look at how people play this game now.

Addition:

It is so funny to see you guys trying to speak badly of CTGP. Things like: "Sooner or later it will be possible to pass cheated times there" "Hopefully this shit will be broken".

If that will ever happen, what do you think will happen next? CTGP is managed by people who actually are in charge of patches and stuff. If anything happend years back you had to create rules for the community to prevent fake times being added.
But chadderz/bean or whoever can patch this and fix stuff like that. If people will be able to abuse codes in ctgp -> patch.

The lifetime ban rule doesnt make sense here if you are sure the time itself is 100% legit. On this "competitive" website you can create your own rules for submitting times - no problem there.

Sorozone wrote on 02/10/19 at 12:50:30:


+1

Thats why the com is divided sadly

AndyT wrote on 02/10/19 at 13:58:44:


is this supposed to be a shot at the stupid pause buffer ban thing

Who is the real batman?

Ultimately up to the people in charge, make sure you always stay one step ahead!

Looks like Jorge just got a 2:18.556 in Koopa Cape (5th WW) and has some 45 splits. He will beat Justin any day now Interested to see what will happen then

Welcome back btw. Glad to see you've matured with the rest of us The only gripe I really had with you is when you claimed to have found that KC ultra glitch (made me waste time grinding for hours trying to duplicate it) and of course, the SGB run. That run was what ultimately made me lose motivation and stop going for WR when I was so close at 2nd or 3rd WW Either way I don't give a fuck these days, I look forward to your streams.

I never really talk about the whole cheater debate but honestly I wouldn't mind if their CTGP runs got considered as legit as long as they would still be banned and excluded from the PP.

FYI - I too thought batman was Sorozone.

ZedR wrote on 02/18/19 at 08:35:58:


May I please have the link? I've been waiting for a civilized TT only Discord

Oh wow, I saw this topic before but didn’t read it until now. Didn’t know it was you. What you did was a massively shitty thing to do but it’s good you’re (unpromptedly?) apologizing now. I’m OK with counting legit times outside of the PP so I have nothing to complain about here I guess.

I’m gonna be honest, I’ve been here for years without an account and didn’t know the severity of lying but truthfully, I just want to see the new WR video.

Honesty is important, and I’m glad you apologized to the community.

Welcome back, Jorge.