Mario Kart MB - Best possible times thread; are these subs doable?

Nick Renzetti

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Best possible times thread; are these subs doable?
08/02/18 at 11:33:12

Thought I’d post this since MK7 is now at the point where the best possible strategies are being optimized for at least most of the tracks, and the only thing left is to have as much finesse as possible and tighten the runs. So I’ll list subs here where the best known splits don’t quite make the sub, but are really close;

TC sub-1:19
MC sub-1:57
RRM sub-1:58
WS sub-1:53
rKTB sub-1:30
rKD sub-1:34

~~WL G sub-1:18~~ (achieved September 20, 2018)
MW G sub-1:04
RIW sub-1:50
~~rBC1 G sub-1:10~~ (achieved December 5, 2018)
rDC G sub-1:10

I bolded the tracks where the BKS now make the sub. Curious to hear any thoughts on whether or not these are possible and if you guys think they’ll be done sometime in the future

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Martijn Veldhuis

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Re: Best possible times thread
Reply #1 - 08/02/18 at 11:39:06

NicholasRen wrote on 08/02/18 at 11:33:12:

Thought I’d post this since MK7 is now at the point where the best possible strategies are being optimized for at least most of the tracks, and the only thing left is to have as much finesse as possible and tighten the runs. So I’ll list subs here where the best known splits don’t quite make the sub, but are really close;

TC sub-1:19
MC sub-1:57
RRM sub-1:58
WS sub-1:53
rKTB sub-1:30
rKD sub-1:34

WL G sub-1:18
MW G sub-1:04
RIW SC sub-1:50
rBC1 G sub-1:10
rDC G sub-1:10

I bolded the tracks that are more significant in my opinion. Curious to hear any thoughts on whether or not these are possible and if you guys think they’ll be done sometime in the future

100% sure everything except MC, rKTB, WL G and rBC1 G, RIW and rDC G will never happen.

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Nick Renzetti Ex Member	Re: Best possible times thread; are these subs doa Reply #2 - 08/02/18 at 14:08:07 I wouldn’t count out TC reaching 1:18.9xx so fast, after all it’s less than .1 away from the current BKS.. 2 top players get into a WR battle and it could happen
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Hugo Legend Offline punched 3670 kiddies France Gender:	Re: Best possible times thread; are these subs doa Reply #3 - 08/02/18 at 15:41:11 What about 1:54 on DKJ NG? Ray believes that it could be achieved, it's even our GOD standard
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Nick Renzetti Ex Member	Re: Best possible times thread; are these subs doa Reply #4 - 08/02/18 at 15:54:38 Hugo wrote on 08/02/18 at 15:41:11: What about 1:54 on DKJ NG? Ray believes that it could be achieved, it's even our GOD standard I left it out because I also recall Ray saying it was possible
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Hugo Legend Offline 3670 days karting France Gender:	Re: Best possible times thread; are these subs doa Reply #5 - 08/02/18 at 16:17:07 NicholasRen wrote on 08/02/18 at 15:54:38: Hugo wrote on 08/02/18 at 15:41:11: What about 1:54 on DKJ NG? Ray believes that it could be achieved, it's even our GOD standard I left it out because I also recall Ray saying it was possible Oh, ok
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Re: Best possible times thread; are these subs doa
Reply #6 - 08/03/18 at 00:23:11

NicholasRen wrote on 08/02/18 at 14:08:07:

I wouldn’t count out TC reaching 1:18.9xx so fast, after all it’s less than .1 away from the current BKS.. 2 top players get into a WR battle and it could happen

I don't think so
If you see how strong the top 100 of that track is. The BKS'es must be near to be maxed. 1:19.1 could happen. But I don't think lower is humanly unless a new strat will be found.

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Nick Renzetti

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Re: Best possible times thread; are these subs doa
Reply #7 - 08/05/18 at 14:17:23

Went back and watched Thomas’ former WR on TC (1:19.238) with slick tires, and noticed he missed the SMT on the last turn in lap 1, what do you suppose he could’ve gotten without that mistake? At least 1:19.100 or perhaps even lower, I think. But whatever he would’ve gotten, it certainly would be near unbeatable

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BMence Karter Offline I Love Mark 2.0! hit 4519 moles Belgium Gender:	Re: Best possible times thread; are these subs doa Reply #8 - 08/06/18 at 02:06:13 Would have been like 1:19.170 or 1:19.160, not 1:19.100 or below at all.
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cros107 Elite Offline needs to stop karting at 3am missed 3193 mts Melbourne, Australia Gender:	Re: Best possible times thread; are these subs doa Reply #9 - 08/07/18 at 17:21:01 I'm pretty sure optimal SSMTs with RMs only save like .05, probably less for slicks.
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Nick Renzetti Ex Member	Re: Best possible times thread; are these subs doa Reply #10 - 08/08/18 at 11:26:40 .05 over 3 laps is .15, that would be a big improvement for TC
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Martijn Veldhuis Legend Offline 2865 days karting The Netherlands Gender:	Re: Best possible times thread; are these subs doa Reply #11 - 08/26/18 at 05:16:03 Hugo wrote on 08/02/18 at 15:41:11: What about 1:54 on DKJ NG? Ray believes that it could be achieved, it's even our GOD standard Definitely within reach now. And 9-1-0 is even possible while it probably isn't done in BKS. But Thomas doesn't like to play the track... He refuses to keep going.
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Noah R. Elite Offline I overthink everything worships 3399 kartgods Gender:	Re: Best possible times thread; are these subs doa Reply #12 - 08/27/18 at 18:57:56 9-1-0 is 40 times harder than anything else on the track.
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Nick Renzetti Ex Member	Re: Best possible times thread; are these subs doa Reply #13 - 08/28/18 at 11:47:02 Now we know rDC G sub-1:10 is possible since best splits add up to 1:09.9xx, and if Roa had gotten a great L3 in his recent fail he could’ve done it, though I think 1:10.0 or 1:10.1 would’ve been more likely
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Nick Renzetti Ex Member	Re: Best possible times thread; are these subs doa Reply #14 - 09/01/18 at 19:16:31 I’m going to add one more possible (or impossible) sub to discuss: rLR sub-1:42.75 Doing this would be cutting exactly .1 off the current WR, and it’s .028 lower than the BKS.
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Re: Best possible times thread; are these subs doa
Reply #15 - 09/01/18 at 21:45:42

NicholasRen wrote on 09/01/18 at 19:16:31:

I’m going to add one more possible (or impossible) sub to discuss:

rLR sub-1:42.75

Doing this would be cutting exactly .1 off the current WR, and it’s .028 lower than the BKS.

I can't say if that will be ever reached. But there are still some strategies found on rLR which WR isn't using and could be possibly faster. But it might not.

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Nick Renzetti

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Re: Best possible times thread; are these subs doa
Reply #16 - 09/02/18 at 15:07:42

Martijn Veldhuis wrote on 09/01/18 at 21:45:42:

NicholasRen wrote on 09/01/18 at 19:16:31:

I’m going to add one more possible (or impossible) sub to discuss:

rLR sub-1:42.75

Doing this would be cutting exactly .1 off the current WR, and it’s .028 lower than the BKS.

I can't say if that will be ever reached. But there are still some strategies found on rLR which WR isn't using and could be possibly faster. But it might not.

I didn’t know that, what are the other strategies?

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Re: Best possible times thread; are these subs doa
Reply #17 - 09/02/18 at 21:49:18

NicholasRen wrote on 09/02/18 at 15:07:42:

Martijn Veldhuis wrote on 09/01/18 at 21:45:42:

NicholasRen wrote on 09/01/18 at 19:16:31:

I’m going to add one more possible (or impossible) sub to discuss:

rLR sub-1:42.75

Doing this would be cutting exactly .1 off the current WR, and it’s .028 lower than the BKS.

I can't say if that will be ever reached. But there are still some strategies found on rLR which WR isn't using and could be possibly faster. But it might not.

I didn’t know that, what are the other strategies?

What I remember is that there's a way to get 2 SMT's in the tunnel and a ssmt before the entrance of the tunnel.

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Re: Best possible times thread; are these subs doa
Reply #18 - 09/20/18 at 03:13:44

Oof WL G got shattered

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AdroMaster wrote on 03/01/13 at 02:06:59:

In fact, Bowser + Bruiser + Red Monster + Beast Glider should be used in every track. CCL is one of the weakest WRs because of that :fp:

CCL? Are you serious? This combination is just terrible and much slower for water tracks, It's impossible to get a WR with this.

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Martijn Veldhuis Legend Offline punched 2865 kiddies The Netherlands Gender:	Re: Best possible times thread; are these subs doa Reply #19 - 09/20/18 at 04:25:18 SilverMK wrote on 09/20/18 at 03:13:44: Oof WL G got shattered And how. OMG
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Reply #20 - 09/25/18 at 07:51:39

Seeing that the rBC1 G BKS now add up to 1:10.129, it makes me think even more that 1:09 could be done with this strat.

Only a few months ago, the BKS equaled 1:10.4xx and I doubt anyone thought 1:10.1 or even 1:10.2 was possible but now we know it is. The record’s been pushed down a lot this past couple months and I think it still has a long way to go before it’s maxed out

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Re: Best possible times thread; are these subs doa
Reply #21 - 11/30/18 at 14:20:08

NicholasRen wrote on 09/25/18 at 07:51:39:

Seeing that the rBC1 G BKS now add up to 1:10.129, it makes me think even more that 1:09 could be done with this strat.

Only a few months ago, the BKS equaled 1:10.4xx and I doubt anyone thought 1:10.1 or even 1:10.2 was possible but now we know it is. The record’s been pushed down a lot this past couple months and I think it still has a long way to go before it’s maxed out

Maybe 1:09 in no time

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Martijn Veldhuis Legend Offline punched 2865 kiddies The Netherlands Gender:	Re: Best possible times thread; are these subs doa Reply #22 - 12/16/18 at 06:15:58 TC sub maybe possible. 1:45 MP reached and 1:40 NBC incoming.
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Martijn Veldhuis Legend Offline 2865 days karting The Netherlands Gender:	Re: Best possible times thread; are these subs doa Reply #23 - 12/28/18 at 01:31:03 rMT is destroyed NG? 2:13 incoming? G 1:46/45 incoming?
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Nick Renzetti Ex Member	Re: Best possible times thread; are these subs doa Reply #24 - 01/21/19 at 01:19:27 Is that TC sub still impossible Martijn? BKS now 1:18.993
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