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Reply #75 - 07/11/18 at 16:02:15

There's a couple things I don't like about Leone's claim.

1) He corrected seer -> TM awfully quickly, before I even had time to finish reading half his post, then quote it and point it out. I'm not convinced it was a genuine mistake/slip.

2) If Leone really is TM and swapped PAF and me, he should be absolutely all over TvK claiming Minion and outing Cros and Zoran. He should be focusing all his energy into seeing if something happened to those three (i.e. a Robber), but he's focused instead in getting claims from me and PAF?

Now I need to ask why Leone would do this, and what role he probably instead actually has. He could very well be Robber who took Cros's or Zoran's or Dan's (now Minion!TvK's) role and for this very reason he's pushing hard that PAF isn't TM and not focusing on the supposed Wolf team.

However, I feel forced to believe PAF's claim because if PAF isn't TM and Leone is, then whatever PAF was, I think I'm boned no matter what I say.

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Reply #77 - 07/11/18 at 16:21:59

Zwiebel wrote on 07/11/18 at 14:30:13:

Leone wrote on 07/11/18 at 14:14:08:

Zwiebel wrote on 07/11/18 at 13:11:59:

TvK wrote on 07/11/18 at 13:10:45:

Zwiebel wrote on 07/11/18 at 13:02:23:

Also, the longer u wait to claim the more scummy I will consider u. I believe PAF and Isaak so far.

Why don't you believe me? Without my information, would you still believe IsaaK to be villager? The easiest role to fakeclaim? A role he even called vanilla townie instead of the correct term villager?

sorry, I totally forgot u claimed too Smiley

yeah your thoughts on his claim??? like why a wolf-alignee would out self as such?????

Good question. I think his claim is full of shit. Don't even need my seer power to smell fishy shit like that Smiley

But I'm a nice guy so I didn't want to say that in his face Smiley

WAT

WAT THE FUCK

WHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

why

um uh IF YOU THOUGHT IT WAS SCUMMY (it IS) WHY DID YOU SAY NOTHING UNTIL I SAID A THING ABOUT iT

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Reply #78 - 07/11/18 at 16:22:38

Hugo wrote on 07/11/18 at 14:45:07:

Hey, won't be very active for the night either since I'm in my bedroom and have very bad wifi... Bad first post, right? Lips Sealed

Well I'd also like to say that I'm not liking Leone so far, makes a slip and when TvK points it out he immediately defends himself by attacking PAF. He's quite an experienced player as far as I know though, so I'd like to avoid drawing conclusions too early. Maybe trying to create confusion with the "tanner trying to look like a wolf/wolf trying to look like the tanner" dilemma.

its called i typod and PAF IS CLAIMING MY ROLE OFC IM GOING TO ATTACK PAF

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Reply #79 - 07/11/18 at 16:23:55

Zwiebel wrote on 07/11/18 at 14:51:00:

TvK wrote on 07/11/18 at 14:48:07:

Zwiebel wrote on 07/11/18 at 14:30:13:

Leone wrote on 07/11/18 at 14:14:08:

Zwiebel wrote on 07/11/18 at 13:11:59:

TvK wrote on 07/11/18 at 13:10:45:

Zwiebel wrote on 07/11/18 at 13:02:23:

Also, the longer u wait to claim the more scummy I will consider u. I believe PAF and Isaak so far.

Why don't you believe me? Without my information, would you still believe IsaaK to be villager? The easiest role to fakeclaim? A role he even called vanilla townie instead of the correct term villager?

sorry, I totally forgot u claimed too Smiley

yeah your thoughts on his claim??? like why a wolf-alignee would out self as such?????

Good question. I think his claim is full of shit. Don't even need my seer power to smell fishy shit like that Smiley

But I'm a nice guy so I didn't want to say that in his face Smiley

Are you talking about my claim or IsaaK's claim?

Your claim Smiley

YES WHAT ABIOUT IT why AM I gthe OnLy OnE NOTICING THIS CLAIM IS THE WORST THING IN DECADES and wHy DiD THIs HaVE NO FALLOW UPPPPPP

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Shock NinjaShock Offline 5698 equations solved North Carolina Gender:	Re: One Night Ultimate Werewolf! DAY PHASE Reply #80 - 07/11/18 at 16:24:28 Also, if PAF were actually Tanner as Leone thought he was, he could have easily at that point just claimed Tanner and absolutely have me thrown under the bus by claiming my free Village-aligned role (since he knows I'm not Wolf, Tanner, or Minion). But he didn't, he stuck to his TM claim.
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Reply #81 - 07/11/18 at 16:25:36

DansGame wrote on 07/11/18 at 15:11:09:

I'm in the middle of a rehearsal right now. Just checking in to say Zwiebel I hope you can understand why I wouldn't claim right away given that I'm not sure what team I'm on right now, especially if PAF and TvK aren't lying...lol. But I'm definitely trying to make sense of things.

you're the drunk

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hi there mr drunk

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Reply #82 - 07/11/18 at 16:26:41

IsaaK. wrote on 07/11/18 at 15:13:42:

Leone’s playstyle is confusing me. He seems to be pushing TvK a lot, which I like, but his claim was so incredibley bad that I can’t trust him at all yet.

I’m going to go to sleep, and hopefully Zoran and cros come on and let’s just see what happens from there.....

why is my claim bad

what the fuck

STahP ShEEpInG OFF tVK and SOCK UsE YOuR BRAIn FOR ONCE Shocked

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Shock NinjaShock Offline 5698 equations solved North Carolina Gender:	Re: One Night Ultimate Werewolf! DAY PHASE Reply #83 - 07/11/18 at 16:27:28 Leone wrote on 07/11/18 at 16:22:38: its called i typod and PAF IS CLAIMING MY ROLE OFC IM GOING TO ATTACK PAF So you're going to attack the guy that you think is a Tanner instead of emphasizing the fact that by switching PAF and me nothing's changed regarding the roles of Minion!TvK, Wolf!(Cros+Zoran)?
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Reply #84 - 07/11/18 at 16:30:49

P.A.F.625 wrote on 07/11/18 at 15:17:38:

Interesting... Leone most likely tanner lmao, clearly he didn't know whom he was supposed to claim switch on, or maybe he even delayed the claim on purpose. Wouldn't exclude the possibility of wolf/minion, but yeah.
and lol at him throwing shit at me for pointing out my inactivity when i already did in the signup thread, just wanted to make it clear. You think this is alignment indicative???

paf

paf

PAF

pAF

understand a thing

YOU know im not lying when I say I swapped you and SOCK

IF YOU WERE WOLF BEFORE THEN YOU LIKELY ARE NOT WOLF NOW AND YOU CONTINUING TO IMPERSONATE MY ROLE IS HURTING US

IF YOU WERE TANNER BEFORE THEN YOU ARE DEFINITELY N O T TANNER NOW

IT DOESNT MATTER WHAT TEAM YOU WERE ON

IF YOU KEEP LYING YOU ARE GOING LOSE

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and WOW TvK... not sure why you'd trust me so easily, but the "reveal info ASAP" attitude fits, I guess. I'm not convinced you told the whole truth yet. Also we can't forget about the robber role.

btw, I switched Dan and TvK simply bc they're known to be smart in here and thought would make more sense to get info out of them.

HE CLAIMED FUCKING MINION HOW AM I THE ONLY ONE GETTINg THIS WHAT UNIVERSE AM I IN AM I GOING CRAZY???? PLEASE TELLL ME IM THE ONE GOING CRAZY HERE WHY IS NOBODY ELSE ON TOP OF THIS

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Reply #85 - 07/11/18 at 16:32:22

Hugo wrote on 07/11/18 at 15:33:45:

Will be reading new posts and answering every 30 minutes or so because I need to go downstairs without waking up my mom in order to get decent wifi... Smiley

TvK wrote on 07/11/18 at 14:55:34:

Hugo wrote on 07/11/18 at 14:45:07:

Hey, won't be very active for the night either since I'm in my bedroom and have very bad wifi... Bad first post, right? Lips Sealed

Well I'd also like to say that I'm not liking Leone so far, makes a slip and when TvK points it out he immediately defends himself by attacking PAF. He's quite an experienced player as far as I know though, so I'd like to avoid drawing conclusions too early. Maybe trying to create confusion with the "tanner trying to look like a wolf/wolf trying to look like the tanner" dilemma.

What about any of the other claims that people have made?

As of your post:

IsaaK: well, the obvious claim, he has to be vanilla, wolf, minion or tanner
PAF: I don't really have opinions on this one, we need more interactions between Dan and PAF to sort this out imo
You: Quite surprised me, I wouldn't have expected you to claim so early and say so firmly who the wolves are despite the other possibilities, but it should help town a lot whether this is true or not
Zwiebel: Not much to say here, we need to gather more info

I will be reading everything in depth tomorrow, we also need Zoran and cros to post in order to gather as much info as possible.

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your thoughts on tvk CLAIMING MINION WHICH IS W ALIGNED

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Reply #86 - 07/11/18 at 16:34:22

P.A.F.625 wrote on 07/11/18 at 15:46:27:

I'm 50/50 on Zwiebel's claim. IsaaK is easier to believe, wolves would want to fake claim power roles so they have more influence... I think.
I'll be more confident when we get more info... gtg. See ya in 18 hours... -_-

why are you 50/50 on zweebel claim

why is isaak easier to believe, claiming a power role as w makes less sense because it puts you in a SPOTLIGHT especially if someone COUNTERS (like I did to you, ya dingus, btw I havent forgotten, WHAT WAS YOUR ROLE!?????!?!?!?!?)

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Reply #87 - 07/11/18 at 16:40:41

Shock wrote on 07/11/18 at 16:02:15:

There's a couple things I don't like about Leone's claim.

1) He corrected seer -> TM awfully quickly, before I even had time to finish reading half his post, then quote it and point it out. I'm not convinced it was a genuine mistake/slip.

its called i typod lol

real solid strats, reading into a typo Grin

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2) If Leone really is TM and swapped PAF and me, he should be absolutely all over TvK claiming Minion and outing Cros and Zoran. He should be focusing all his energy into seeing if something happened to those three (i.e. a Robber), but he's focused instead in getting claims from me and PAF?

Leone wrote on 07/11/18 at 14:09:07:

TvK wrote on 07/11/18 at 12:32:44:

Actually if this is true, then that's great news for the village. I was the minion. I woke up and I saw that Zoran and Cros were the werewolves.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

possibilities that jumped to mind

1) minion!tvk does this and is too dumb to realize minion is wolf-aligned and outed both scumbuddies
2) minion!tvk outs self as minion and fake-reveals zoran and cros
3) wolf!tvk fake-outs as minion by looking like 1) or 2)
4) tanner!tvk does this to try and look like 1) 2) or 3)

no way v!tvk does that claim as far as I can tell Grin

Leone wrote on 07/11/18 at 14:14:08:

Zwiebel wrote on 07/11/18 at 13:11:59:

TvK wrote on 07/11/18 at 13:10:45:

Zwiebel wrote on 07/11/18 at 13:02:23:

Also, the longer u wait to claim the more scummy I will consider u. I believe PAF and Isaak so far.

Why don't you believe me? Without my information, would you still believe IsaaK to be villager? The easiest role to fakeclaim? A role he even called vanilla townie instead of the correct term villager?

sorry, I totally forgot u claimed too Smiley

yeah your thoughts on his claim??? like why a wolf-alignee would out self as such?????

Leone wrote on 07/11/18 at 14:19:38:

TvK wrote on 07/11/18 at 13:25:20:

Shock wrote on 07/11/18 at 13:17:18:

I also think that the longer Dan waits to claim the more likely it is TvK wasn't lying (even if I don't really understand his play since TvK didn't know what Dan was yet, I think I would've waited a bit longer personally), and Dan is now Minion and will be unwilling to assist us in our investigation.

I know for sure that Dan isn't a wolf. If PAF's claim is true, we now know the final wolf-aligned member as well. The only way that I am not a part of the village right now is if Dan had the Tanner role. And if so, so be it, but I will do my damn best to help the village win.

wat

you're making progressively less sense

minion is wolf-aligned

wtf is going on am i just sleep-deprived again?????

Leone wrote on 07/11/18 at 14:21:13:

TvK wrote on 07/11/18 at 13:28:24:

Not liking Leone's "troublemaker" claim at all. Not only because of the mistake of writing seer first, but also because he immediately thinks of PAF as the tanner. And if PAF is not lying, then that is the only role we had left to find.

oh so you believe paf IMMEDIATELY 100% for certain even tho he did one of those lazy "ima be inactive lol" things???

what makes hIS claim MORe bELieVaBLe tHAn MiNE??????

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TvK wrote on 07/11/18 at 13:30:03:

And why would Leone claim troublemaker and still have to think about telling who he swapped or not? I am much rather inclined to believe a PAF's full claim than Leone's half claim.

BECAUSE REVEALING WOULD RUIN MY QUEST FOR DATA IF I TELL WHO SWAPPED WHO THAT SHUTS DOWN EVERYTHING

my info is best revealed later on for obvious reasons (foremost of which would be at least one person so far would become useless in gamesolving), if you cant trust me on that then tough shit

WHAT DO YOU CALL THAT

IM THE ONLY ONE ON TVK ABOUT THIS

NOBODY ELSE CARES

WHAT IS HAPPENING

I SWEAR IM GOING INSANE

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However, I feel forced to believe PAF's claim because if PAF isn't TM and Leone is, then whatever PAF was, I think I'm boned no matter what I say.

EXACTLY NOW YOU SEE WHY I WANTED TO HIDE MY SWAP UNTIL LATER????? IF PAF IS W OR TAN THAT MAKES YOU HAVE ZERO MOTIVATION TO HELP US

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Reply #88 - 07/11/18 at 16:42:05

Shock wrote on 07/11/18 at 16:24:28:

Also, if PAF were actually Tanner as Leone thought he was, he could have easily at that point just claimed Tanner and absolutely have me thrown under the bus by claiming my free Village-aligned role (since he knows I'm not Wolf, Tanner, or Minion). But he didn't, he stuck to his TM claim.

yeah speaking of that

what ARE you?????

CLAIM

IF you were V that can clear PAF

if you WERE w that can kill PAF

win win

being all secretive does us no halp

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Reply #89 - 07/11/18 at 16:44:24

Shock wrote on 07/11/18 at 16:27:28:

Leone wrote on 07/11/18 at 16:22:38:

its called i typod and PAF IS CLAIMING MY ROLE OFC IM GOING TO ATTACK PAF

So you're going to attack the guy that you think is a Tanner instead of emphasizing the fact that by switching PAF and me nothing's changed regarding the roles of Minion!TvK, Wolf!(Cros+Zoran)?

why do you for a second buy tvk's "outing" of cros zoran

only in a universe COMPLETELY DEVOID of intelligence does TVK mistake his role as v!-aligned and OUT BOTH HIS SCUMBUDDIES

ok so since im on the subject

thoughts on this???

Leone wrote on 07/11/18 at 14:09:07:

possibilities that jumped to mind

1) minion!tvk does this and is too dumb to realize minion is wolf-aligned and outed both scumbuddies
2) minion!tvk outs self as minion and fake-reveals zoran and cros
3) wolf!tvk fake-outs as minion by looking like 1) or 2)
4) tanner!tvk does this to try and look like 1) 2) or 3)

no way v!tvk does that claim as far as I can tell Grin

which makes the most sense to you?????

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Reply #90 - 07/11/18 at 16:54:56

Shock wrote on 07/11/18 at 16:27:28:

Leone wrote on 07/11/18 at 16:22:38:

its called i typod and PAF IS CLAIMING MY ROLE OFC IM GOING TO ATTACK PAF

So you're going to attack the guy that you think is a Tanner instead of emphasizing the fact that by switching PAF and me nothing's changed regarding the roles of Minion!TvK, Wolf!(Cros+Zoran)?

oh also i forgot to say

i said in my post about paf that i thought he was

1) tan tryna look w
OR
2) w tryna look tan

I DIDNT GO FULL-IN On hIm BeInG TAnNeR

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Reply #91 - 07/11/18 at 17:06:27

Leone wrote on 07/11/18 at 16:25:36:

DansGame wrote on 07/11/18 at 15:11:09:

I'm in the middle of a rehearsal right now. Just checking in to say Zwiebel I hope you can understand why I wouldn't claim right away given that I'm not sure what team I'm on right now, especially if PAF and TvK aren't lying...lol. But I'm definitely trying to make sense of things.

you're the drunk

nice slip

hi there mr drunk

DANS THE DRUNK EVERYONE

Even if I was the drunk I'm not anymore lol

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Reply #92 - 07/11/18 at 17:06:30

Leone wrote on 07/11/18 at 16:44:24:

Shock wrote on 07/11/18 at 16:27:28:

Leone wrote on 07/11/18 at 16:22:38:

its called i typod and PAF IS CLAIMING MY ROLE OFC IM GOING TO ATTACK PAF

So you're going to attack the guy that you think is a Tanner instead of emphasizing the fact that by switching PAF and me nothing's changed regarding the roles of Minion!TvK, Wolf!(Cros+Zoran)?

why do you for a second buy tvk's "outing" of cros zoran

only in a universe COMPLETELY DEVOID of intelligence does TVK mistake his role as v!-aligned and OUT BOTH HIS SCUMBUDDIES

I mean, I wont rule anything out... just seems really off-color for him

also

WHERE THE FUCK ARE CROS AND ZORAN DID THEY FORGET THEY EXIST IN THE GAME?????!?!?!?!!?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Reply #93 - 07/11/18 at 17:06:54

DansGame wrote on 07/11/18 at 17:06:27:

Leone wrote on 07/11/18 at 16:25:36:

DansGame wrote on 07/11/18 at 15:11:09:

I'm in the middle of a rehearsal right now. Just checking in to say Zwiebel I hope you can understand why I wouldn't claim right away given that I'm not sure what team I'm on right now, especially if PAF and TvK aren't lying...lol. But I'm definitely trying to make sense of things.

you're the drunk

nice slip

hi there mr drunk

DANS THE DRUNK EVERYONE

Even if I was the drunk I'm not anymore lol

dan u werent swapped, paf and sock were

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DansGame Ninja Offline I Love Mark 2.0! 3358 days karting	Re: One Night Ultimate Werewolf! DAY PHASE Reply #96 - 07/11/18 at 17:12:20 I already said what I thought about TvK. I don't believe his claim, and even if he is/was minion, I don't believe that Zoran/Cros are his teammates, unless he's using reverse psychology
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Reply #97 - 07/11/18 at 17:13:23

Leone wrote on 07/11/18 at 16:44:24:

why do you for a second buy tvk's "outing" of cros zoran

only in a universe COMPLETELY DEVOID of intelligence does TVK mistake his role as v!-aligned and OUT BOTH HIS SCUMBUDDIES

Because TvK believed he had (very likely) been swapped into v!Dan and had gamesolve-level intelligence to share about the other side. Basically, he found himself in any SPY's absolute wet dream.

Assuming PAF wasn't lying. Which also, at the time, seemed pretty unlikely to all of us, given how all-or-nothing with a much higher chance of nothing is as a w!aligned play.

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ok so since im on the subject

thoughts on this???

Leone wrote on 07/11/18 at 14:09:07:

possibilities that jumped to mind

1) minion!tvk does this and is too dumb to realize minion is wolf-aligned and outed both scumbuddies
2) minion!tvk outs self as minion and fake-reveals zoran and cros
3) wolf!tvk fake-outs as minion by looking like 1) or 2)
4) tanner!tvk does this to try and look like 1) 2) or 3)

no way v!tvk does that claim as far as I can tell Grin

which makes the most sense to you?????

How on earth do you not understand that TvK believed (I think correctly, still) he had swapped alignments from Wolf team to Village team? If he believes he is now Village thanks to Dan's role, he has 0 reason to lie about Zoran and Cros.

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