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Reply #50 - 07/11/18 at 14:04:19

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P.A.F.625 wrote on 07/11/18 at 12:10:01:

Fuck it, let's get this started.
I'm the troublemaker, I switched Dan and TvK.

P.A.F.625 wrote on 07/11/18 at 12:13:10:

By the way, I should be completely inactive tomorrow until like 6PM UTC, and I'll barely post today night (next few hours) either...

PAF's only 2 contributions, fakeclaim and "hurr durr i aint gon b active"

tanner tryna look wolf or wolf tryna look tanner

no fucking way v!paf does this Grin

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Reply #51 - 07/11/18 at 14:09:07

TvK wrote on 07/11/18 at 12:32:44:

Actually if this is true, then that's great news for the village. I was the minion. I woke up and I saw that Zoran and Cros were the werewolves.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

possibilities that jumped to mind

1) minion!tvk does this and is too dumb to realize minion is wolf-aligned and outed both scumbuddies
2) minion!tvk outs self as minion and fake-reveals zoran and cros
3) wolf!tvk fake-outs as minion by looking like 1) or 2)
4) tanner!tvk does this to try and look like 1) 2) or 3)

no way v!tvk does that claim as far as I can tell Grin

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Reply #52 - 07/11/18 at 14:13:13

Zwiebel wrote on 07/11/18 at 13:01:32:

DansGame wrote on 07/11/18 at 12:54:06:

Zwiebel wrote on 07/11/18 at 12:49:46:

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Zwiebel wrote on 07/11/18 at 12:47:06:

I'm sure we should just claim and then figure out shit from there.

I'm seer

What is your check?

Why would I tell you now? My information is much more powerful after everyone claimed

If you're lying, it's easier for you to get away with fake claiming seer if everyone else claims before you out your checks. If you have a town check you should out it now.

I don't really care about me getting away with anything, I care about using my information the best I can to find out who is lying so no way I will tell you now.

Also, why would I fake claim seer if I wasn't seer so early on? That would be so risky...I might have balls of steel but I'm not that ballsy. Smiley

^this smells like you asking yourself easy questions to frame the discussion

but I'm in a similar position given my role so it's not entirely a red flag atm for me

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Reply #53 - 07/11/18 at 14:14:08

Zwiebel wrote on 07/11/18 at 13:11:59:

TvK wrote on 07/11/18 at 13:10:45:

Zwiebel wrote on 07/11/18 at 13:02:23:

Also, the longer u wait to claim the more scummy I will consider u. I believe PAF and Isaak so far.

Why don't you believe me? Without my information, would you still believe IsaaK to be villager? The easiest role to fakeclaim? A role he even called vanilla townie instead of the correct term villager?

sorry, I totally forgot u claimed too Smiley

yeah your thoughts on his claim??? like why a wolf-alignee would out self as such?????

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Reply #54 - 07/11/18 at 14:19:38

TvK wrote on 07/11/18 at 13:25:20:

Shock wrote on 07/11/18 at 13:17:18:

I also think that the longer Dan waits to claim the more likely it is TvK wasn't lying (even if I don't really understand his play since TvK didn't know what Dan was yet, I think I would've waited a bit longer personally), and Dan is now Minion and will be unwilling to assist us in our investigation.

I know for sure that Dan isn't a wolf. If PAF's claim is true, we now know the final wolf-aligned member as well. The only way that I am not a part of the village right now is if Dan had the Tanner role. And if so, so be it, but I will do my damn best to help the village win.

wat

you're making progressively less sense

minion is wolf-aligned

wtf is going on am i just sleep-deprived again?????

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Reply #55 - 07/11/18 at 14:21:13

TvK wrote on 07/11/18 at 13:28:24:

Not liking Leone's "troublemaker" claim at all. Not only because of the mistake of writing seer first, but also because he immediately thinks of PAF as the tanner. And if PAF is not lying, then that is the only role we had left to find.

oh so you believe paf IMMEDIATELY 100% for certain even tho he did one of those lazy "ima be inactive lol" things???

what makes hIS claim MORe bELieVaBLe tHAn MiNE??????

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Reply #56 - 07/11/18 at 14:23:26

TvK wrote on 07/11/18 at 13:30:03:

And why would Leone claim troublemaker and still have to think about telling who he swapped or not? I am much rather inclined to believe a PAF's full claim than Leone's half claim.

BECAUSE REVEALING WOULD RUIN MY QUEST FOR DATA IF I TELL WHO SWAPPED WHO THAT SHUTS DOWN EVERYTHING

my info is best revealed later on for obvious reasons (foremost of which would be at least one person so far would become useless in gamesolving), if you cant trust me on that then tough shit

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Reply #57 - 07/11/18 at 14:23:46

Leone wrote on 07/11/18 at 14:21:13:

TvK wrote on 07/11/18 at 13:28:24:

Not liking Leone's "troublemaker" claim at all. Not only because of the mistake of writing seer first, but also because he immediately thinks of PAF as the tanner. And if PAF is not lying, then that is the only role we had left to find.

oh so you believe paf IMMEDIATELY 100% for certain even tho he did one of those lazy "ima be inactive lol" things???

what makes hIS claim MORe bELieVaBLe tHAn MiNE??????

His claim has to be more believable, otherwise it's really likely he's still Minion and royally fucked up with Tanner immediately doing a stupid play, then him literally outing the wolf team before village had to even do anything on their own.

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Reply #58 - 07/11/18 at 14:30:13

Leone wrote on 07/11/18 at 14:14:08:

Zwiebel wrote on 07/11/18 at 13:11:59:

TvK wrote on 07/11/18 at 13:10:45:

Zwiebel wrote on 07/11/18 at 13:02:23:

Also, the longer u wait to claim the more scummy I will consider u. I believe PAF and Isaak so far.

Why don't you believe me? Without my information, would you still believe IsaaK to be villager? The easiest role to fakeclaim? A role he even called vanilla townie instead of the correct term villager?

sorry, I totally forgot u claimed too Smiley

yeah your thoughts on his claim??? like why a wolf-alignee would out self as such?????

Good question. I think his claim is full of shit. Don't even need my seer power to smell fishy shit like that Smiley

But I'm a nice guy so I didn't want to say that in his face Smiley

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Reply #59 - 07/11/18 at 14:45:07

Hey, won't be very active for the night either since I'm in my bedroom and have very bad wifi... Bad first post, right? Lips Sealed

Well I'd also like to say that I'm not liking Leone so far, makes a slip and when TvK points it out he immediately defends himself by attacking PAF. He's quite an experienced player as far as I know though, so I'd like to avoid drawing conclusions too early. Maybe trying to create confusion with the "tanner trying to look like a wolf/wolf trying to look like the tanner" dilemma.

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Reply #60 - 07/11/18 at 14:47:17

Leone wrote on 07/11/18 at 14:21:13:

TvK wrote on 07/11/18 at 13:28:24:

Not liking Leone's "troublemaker" claim at all. Not only because of the mistake of writing seer first, but also because he immediately thinks of PAF as the tanner. And if PAF is not lying, then that is the only role we had left to find.

oh so you believe paf IMMEDIATELY 100% for certain even tho he did one of those lazy "ima be inactive lol" things???

what makes hIS claim MORe bELieVaBLe tHAn MiNE??????

Because he came in here and the first thing he did was claim in full. And everyone who is not claiming and is withholding information. When do you expect to claim/share information? What suddenly becomes the optimal moment to do so? I'll say it once again, WE ONLY HAVE 48 HOURS.

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Reply #61 - 07/11/18 at 14:48:07

Zwiebel wrote on 07/11/18 at 14:30:13:

Leone wrote on 07/11/18 at 14:14:08:

Zwiebel wrote on 07/11/18 at 13:11:59:

TvK wrote on 07/11/18 at 13:10:45:

Zwiebel wrote on 07/11/18 at 13:02:23:

Also, the longer u wait to claim the more scummy I will consider u. I believe PAF and Isaak so far.

Why don't you believe me? Without my information, would you still believe IsaaK to be villager? The easiest role to fakeclaim? A role he even called vanilla townie instead of the correct term villager?

sorry, I totally forgot u claimed too Smiley

yeah your thoughts on his claim??? like why a wolf-alignee would out self as such?????

Good question. I think his claim is full of shit. Don't even need my seer power to smell fishy shit like that Smiley

But I'm a nice guy so I didn't want to say that in his face Smiley

Are you talking about my claim or IsaaK's claim?

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Reply #62 - 07/11/18 at 14:51:00

TvK wrote on 07/11/18 at 14:48:07:

Zwiebel wrote on 07/11/18 at 14:30:13:

Leone wrote on 07/11/18 at 14:14:08:

Zwiebel wrote on 07/11/18 at 13:11:59:

TvK wrote on 07/11/18 at 13:10:45:

Zwiebel wrote on 07/11/18 at 13:02:23:

Also, the longer u wait to claim the more scummy I will consider u. I believe PAF and Isaak so far.

Why don't you believe me? Without my information, would you still believe IsaaK to be villager? The easiest role to fakeclaim? A role he even called vanilla townie instead of the correct term villager?

sorry, I totally forgot u claimed too Smiley

yeah your thoughts on his claim??? like why a wolf-alignee would out self as such?????

Good question. I think his claim is full of shit. Don't even need my seer power to smell fishy shit like that Smiley

But I'm a nice guy so I didn't want to say that in his face Smiley

Are you talking about my claim or IsaaK's claim?

Your claim Smiley

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Reply #63 - 07/11/18 at 14:55:34

Hugo wrote on 07/11/18 at 14:45:07:

Hey, won't be very active for the night either since I'm in my bedroom and have very bad wifi... Bad first post, right? Lips Sealed

Well I'd also like to say that I'm not liking Leone so far, makes a slip and when TvK points it out he immediately defends himself by attacking PAF. He's quite an experienced player as far as I know though, so I'd like to avoid drawing conclusions too early. Maybe trying to create confusion with the "tanner trying to look like a wolf/wolf trying to look like the tanner" dilemma.

What about any of the other claims that people have made?

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Reply #65 - 07/11/18 at 14:59:26

TvK wrote on 07/11/18 at 14:47:17:

Leone wrote on 07/11/18 at 14:21:13:

TvK wrote on 07/11/18 at 13:28:24:

Not liking Leone's "troublemaker" claim at all. Not only because of the mistake of writing seer first, but also because he immediately thinks of PAF as the tanner. And if PAF is not lying, then that is the only role we had left to find.

oh so you believe paf IMMEDIATELY 100% for certain even tho he did one of those lazy "ima be inactive lol" things???

what makes hIS claim MORe bELieVaBLe tHAn MiNE??????

Because he came in here and the first thing he did was claim in full. And everyone who is not claiming and is withholding information. When do you expect to claim/share information? What suddenly becomes the optimal moment to do so? I'll say it once again, WE ONLY HAVE 48 HOURS.

well I WAS gonna wait till halfway through so I could try n get solid reads on em first but rip that idea! Grin

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Reply #68 - 07/11/18 at 15:17:38

Interesting... Leone most likely tanner lmao, clearly he didn't know whom he was supposed to claim switch on, or maybe he even delayed the claim on purpose. Wouldn't exclude the possibility of wolf/minion, but yeah.
and lol at him throwing shit at me for pointing out my inactivity when i already did in the signup thread, just wanted to make it clear. You think this is alignment indicative???

and WOW TvK... not sure why you'd trust me so easily, but the "reveal info ASAP" attitude fits, I guess. I'm not convinced you told the whole truth yet. Also we can't forget about the robber role.

btw, I switched Dan and TvK simply bc they're known to be smart in here and thought would make more sense to get info out of them.

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Reply #69 - 07/11/18 at 15:25:47

IsaaK. wrote on 07/11/18 at 15:13:42:

Leone’s playstyle is confusing me. He seems to be pushing TvK a lot, which I like, but his claim was so incredibley bad that I can’t trust him at all yet.

I’m going to go to sleep, and hopefully Zoran and cros come on and let’s just see what happens from there.....

How exactly is Leone pushing me? And can you elaborate on "Leone's claim is incredibly bad"? Does that mean you don't believe him regardless of other claims? Or does that mean that you're more likely to believe PAF at this time? If so, why do you believe PAF over Leone?

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Reply #70 - 07/11/18 at 15:28:52

IsaaK. wrote on 07/11/18 at 13:13:57:

The one thing I like about Zwiebel’s claim is............
If he’s in the werewolf team, he has to be pretty damn certain that the seer card is in the center. The werewolves only know a center card if there is one werewolf. If we were to believe TvK’s claim also, there is no chance of one werewolf.

I can conclude from this that a TvK/Zwiebel are either both telling the truth, or one of them is lying. Im lying towards the former option rn, but I can’t tell 100%.

Just saying, you got your logic wrong. All that says is if TvK isn't lying then neither is Zwiebel. There's a chance they're both lying...

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Reply #71 - 07/11/18 at 15:33:45

Will be reading new posts and answering every 30 minutes or so because I need to go downstairs without waking up my mom in order to get decent wifi... Smiley

TvK wrote on 07/11/18 at 14:55:34:

Hugo wrote on 07/11/18 at 14:45:07:

Hey, won't be very active for the night either since I'm in my bedroom and have very bad wifi... Bad first post, right? Lips Sealed

Well I'd also like to say that I'm not liking Leone so far, makes a slip and when TvK points it out he immediately defends himself by attacking PAF. He's quite an experienced player as far as I know though, so I'd like to avoid drawing conclusions too early. Maybe trying to create confusion with the "tanner trying to look like a wolf/wolf trying to look like the tanner" dilemma.

What about any of the other claims that people have made?

As of your post:

IsaaK: well, the obvious claim, he has to be vanilla, wolf, minion or tanner
PAF: I don't really have opinions on this one, we need more interactions between Dan and PAF to sort this out imo
You: Quite surprised me, I wouldn't have expected you to claim so early and say so firmly who the wolves are despite the other possibilities, but it should help town a lot whether this is true or not
Zwiebel: Not much to say here, we need to gather more info

I will be reading everything in depth tomorrow, we also need Zoran and cros to post in order to gather as much info as possible.

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Reply #72 - 07/11/18 at 15:40:15

Hugo wrote on 07/11/18 at 15:33:45:

IsaaK: well, the obvious claim, he has to be vanilla, wolf, minion or tanner

Do you see any scenario in which IsaaK is for example the robber, with him waiting either to counterclaim a fakeclaiming robber, or waiting to see if the person he robbed claims a certain role that they in fact aren't?

Hugo wrote on 07/11/18 at 15:33:45:

PAF: I don't really have opinions on this one, we need more interactions between Dan and PAF to sort this out imo

Who do you think is more likely to be troublemaker between PAF and Leone? Even if you just had to go by gut feeling. [/quote]

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