one of zweebs/tvk is likely tanner and I'm leaning tvk heavily but none of this matters as long as V votes zoran and zoran is either w or shoots w!paf

Actually

the more I think about it, the more I think maybe dan's right

I still believe zoran is wolf, but I shouldn't rule out the possibility that PAF set Zoran up and that Zoran is actually hunter.

I will still insist 100% that we all vote for Zoran, but the question is: If he's actually hunter, who is minion and who is wolf? It has to be either PAF or shock(or kleenex, but there's no way for us to find that one out), so we should discuss who of both zoran should kill if he's hunter. They're probably both wolf, question is who would be wolf and who minion. Cause if we kill the minion and no wolf, we actually lose

Zwiebel wrote on 07/13/18 at 05:11:01:


Possibilities would be (before swaps)

PAF minion Shock wolf
PAF wolf Shock wolf
PAF wolf Shock minion

Or PAF thinks Shock was tanner, unlikely IMO

>zoran drew wolf: vote zoran, we win
>paf drew minion then switched to wolf: signaled to sock with his confession that sock is now the minion and should shut the hell up - vote zoran, we win
>paf drew wolf then switched to minion: min-draw!sock signals w-draw!paf (or sock didnt know who ww was and was putting out a general signal to whoever else might be ww) with no-partner-masonclaim (the claim most likely to be CC'd, mathematically - but this never was cc'd) then paf draws attention to himself with zoran-ww lie to draw his fire into himself - vote zoran, we lose

now, the chance that BOTH masons were in reserve at first is exceedingly low, making me think the sock!w-draw or paf w!-draw are both less likely than zoran!ww -> saw hunter at center and claimed it

given that, however, we have to figure out which of the latter two MIGHT be more likely

in MY opinion, paf doesnt know how to plan far enough ahead to both take sock's min role AND throw zoran under the bus to draw fire to himself

ALSO, ww-draw!paf probably DOESNT claim TM in his FIRST POST. I dont see how that would make sense unless he was just hoping youd all just not buy whoever CC'd (ME)

and even if he DID do that as ww WITHOUT knowing first that he was SWAPPED, hed HAVE NO REASON TO PUT ON A REVERSAL AND CLAIM FORMER-MINION, BECAUSE YOU WERE ALL BUYING HIS FUCKiNG CLAIM

IN OTHER WORDS, PAF EXCEEDINGLY LIKELY ONLY MAKES THAT CONFESSION AND LIES ABOUT ZORAN IF HES TAKING ON SOCK'S WW

Ye guess I agree with u Leone, PAF would be more likely to be the ww between both of them.

so we vote zoran -> in case he's hunter he kills PAF.

Any objections? Seems most people would already agree to this plan.

Zwiebel is running this game like a fucking boss ffs!!!

Hugo wrote on 07/13/18 at 06:07:59:


Please hurry up with that list of who you think has what role. Only 5 and a half hours left and we really need to start making decisions now. And preferably decisions that do not come from the fakeclaiming Zwiebel.

i think Shock was minion and PAF was Wolf in the beginning.

Need to read where i left yesterday, will explain my thoughts when i read all.

no control wrote on 07/13/18 at 07:10:07:


Zoran we have got to work together here. Why do you think the other way around (PAF minion and Shock Wolf at the beginning) isn't more likely?

TvK wrote on 07/13/18 at 06:35:43:


Sorry, I had some chores to do. I'm tempted to trust Zwiebel over you for now, but I need to reread through the last pages.

I'm here, these recent events have just made me so confused lol, all my theories have broken down and I have no idea who to trust anymore.

Also, what do you think about voting Zoran?