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Reply #525 - 07/13/18 at 01:42:06

cros how are you so bad at reading back

for once READ some posts behind just the most recent page, then you'd KNOW what the DISCUSSION was ABOUT

isaak how the FUCK are you so hopelessly tone-deaf SOCK THINKS HE'S AN OUTED MINION OF COURSE HES GONNA FUCKING MEME-CLAIM

this is the same shit that made you LOSE THE DN GAME TO A FUCKING MEME

WHAT IS EVEN HAPPENING

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NOTHING MAKES SENSE REEEEEE

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Leone Titan Offline Curious. 4390 sex records København, soon Gender:	Re: One Night Ultimate Werewolf! DAY PHASE Reply #527 - 07/13/18 at 01:49:52 lol goddammit tan!tvk also fits a sock min/zoran maf narrative I mean not gonna lie i was suspecting tvk since like awhile cuz nonsensical logic and flip-flopping all over the place like a dead fish to cause chaos, quintessential tanner behavior this game is fuckin retarded
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Leone Titan Offline Curious. 4390 days karting København, soon Gender:	Re: One Night Ultimate Werewolf! DAY PHASE Reply #528 - 07/13/18 at 01:50:41 also timur same question i asked seer!tvk WHY DIDNT YOU SCAN CENTER 2 CARDS IS MATHEMATICALLY BETTER THAN 1 WHAT MADE YOU CHOOSE TVK
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Leone Titan Offline Curious. 4390 days karting København, soon Gender:	Re: One Night Ultimate Werewolf! DAY PHASE Reply #529 - 07/13/18 at 01:53:54 ok i mean your early-game interactions point at some kind of connection between you/tvk (not calling his shitty gameplay, being coy at him, etc) just couldnt place what exactly
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Reply #530 - 07/13/18 at 01:56:02

TvK wrote on 07/12/18 at 05:27:08:

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Zwiebel wrote on 07/12/18 at 05:16:43:

Ayyy TvK

I'm not sure what the fuck you're doing, but if you think leone is tanner, then no, he's not Smiley

I also think it's not really important right now if I believe PAF over Leone or not, I think it's more important if you believe PAF over Leone or not.

I 100% believe PAF over Leone. The most important thing for me is that you also believe the same. If you do so, I think we should be able to solve this game together. If you don't believe PAF, then we're a long way from home.

Do you believe me? Then why you say Leone is tanner?

I have no reason not to believe you. And everything I'm doing is to gather information. I do believe that Dan now has my original role, and I have his. All I want now is to figure out what reason Leone has to also claim Troublemaker. I think calling him the Tanner is a good way to get the discussion started. What is your opinion on Leone?

If at this point it isn't obvious that TvK is openly admitting to me that he "was/is" tanner to me, I don't know what is Grin

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To be honest, I thought scanning center cards is what everyone would expect the seer to do, so I didn't. Not much more to it Smiley

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Reply #531 - 07/13/18 at 01:56:47

whoops, first post was incomplete Smiley

Zwiebel wrote on 07/11/18 at 14:30:13:

Leone wrote on 07/11/18 at 14:14:08:

Zwiebel wrote on 07/11/18 at 13:11:59:

TvK wrote on 07/11/18 at 13:10:45:

Zwiebel wrote on 07/11/18 at 13:02:23:

Also, the longer u wait to claim the more scummy I will consider u. I believe PAF and Isaak so far.

Why don't you believe me? Without my information, would you still believe IsaaK to be villager? The easiest role to fakeclaim? A role he even called vanilla townie instead of the correct term villager?

sorry, I totally forgot u claimed too Smiley

yeah your thoughts on his claim??? like why a wolf-alignee would out self as such?????

Good question. I think his claim is full of shit. Don't even need my seer power to smell fishy shit like that Smiley

But I'm a nice guy so I didn't want to say that in his face Smiley

First hint. I said I didn't "need" my seer powers, but I didn't say I didn't use them.

Zwiebel wrote on 07/12/18 at 04:31:00:

So, we have 2 Robber claims and 2 TM claims?

As I see it, there are not that many roles that would lie about their role:

1) Werewolf / Minion. Obviously.
2) Tanner. Obvious as well.
3) Robber/Drunk in certain situations. However, as one of the counterclaims is Robber, there's a high chance that one of them says the truth. So we can scratch Robber from that list. As a drunk, the optimal play would probably to wait out and try to figure out the own alignment on the way, I don't think claiming(esp. counterclaiming) is something a drunk would do so early.

So that leaves Werewolf/Minion/Tanner to fake claim.

If my logic is correct, I believe that one out of both pairs PAF/Leone and Cros/Dan has to be either Wolf/Minion or Tanner. Thing is, I know for a fact that none of them thinks he's the tanner. Because I scanned the tanner.

That means one out of PAF/Leone and Cros/Dan is Wolf or Minion.

Me coming out with the fact I knew who tanner was.

TvK wrote on 07/12/18 at 05:11:33:

Zwiebel wrote on 07/12/18 at 04:31:00:

Thing is, I know for a fact that none of them thinks he's the tanner. Because I scanned the tanner.

Well, with that logic in mind, where do you stand on the PAF/Leone troublemaker? Who do you believe the most at the moment?

He's asking me specifically the question, because he thinks "I know" and wants to hear If i believe he is still tanner or not.

Zwiebel wrote on 07/12/18 at 05:16:43:

Ayyy TvK

I'm not sure what the fuck you're doing, but if you think leone is tanner, then no, he's not Smiley

I also think it's not really important right now if I believe PAF over Leone or not, I think it's more important if you believe PAF over Leone or not.

Me warning TvK that I know he's tanner and not Leone.

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Reply #532 - 07/13/18 at 01:57:26

Then this post. sorry for the mess Smiley

Zwiebel wrote on 07/13/18 at 01:56:02:

TvK wrote on 07/12/18 at 05:27:08:

Zwiebel wrote on 07/12/18 at 05:25:00:

TvK wrote on 07/12/18 at 05:19:35:

Zwiebel wrote on 07/12/18 at 05:16:43:

Ayyy TvK

I'm not sure what the fuck you're doing, but if you think leone is tanner, then no, he's not Smiley

I also think it's not really important right now if I believe PAF over Leone or not, I think it's more important if you believe PAF over Leone or not.

I 100% believe PAF over Leone. The most important thing for me is that you also believe the same. If you do so, I think we should be able to solve this game together. If you don't believe PAF, then we're a long way from home.

Do you believe me? Then why you say Leone is tanner?

I have no reason not to believe you. And everything I'm doing is to gather information. I do believe that Dan now has my original role, and I have his. All I want now is to figure out what reason Leone has to also claim Troublemaker. I think calling him the Tanner is a good way to get the discussion started. What is your opinion on Leone?

If at this point it isn't obvious that TvK is openly admitting to me that he "was/is" tanner to me, I don't know what is Grin

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To be honest, I thought scanning center cards is what everyone would expect the seer to do, so I didn't. Not much more to it Smiley

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Reply #533 - 07/13/18 at 02:05:08

alright so that basically leaves us at "vote zoran to win"

tvk was the only thing keeping zoran ww / paf current mason from being true

thought of tan!tvk possibility but then passed out last night

now what I dont get is WHY WOULD ZORAN FAKECLAIM HUNTER AS WW THATS LITERALLY A CALL FOR US TO VOTE HIM БЛЯТЬ

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Leone Titan Offline Curious. 4390 holabolas København, soon Gender:	Re: One Night Ultimate Werewolf! DAY PHASE Reply #534 - 07/13/18 at 02:06:51 oh wait maybe zoran as lone-ww saw hunter in reserve -> knew it was the only role he wouldnt be cc'd on oof
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Reply #535 - 07/13/18 at 02:10:56

alright so ASSUMING TIMUR IS NOW TELLING THE TRUTH

dan -> villager
paf -> min -> mason
isaak -> stupid villager
tvk -> tan
me -> tm
kleenex -> drunk -> robber -> centercard
sock -> mason -> min
zoran -> ww, saw hunter at center
cros -> robber

that leaves center:

mason ww hunter -> robber and 2/3 of (mason ww hunter)

ww and mason, since theres 2 each, have a higher chance than not of having one in reserve, too, so this fits nicely to ye olde porbabilities

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DansGame Ninja Offline I Love Mark 2.0! 3358 days karting	Re: One Night Ultimate Werewolf! DAY PHASE Reply #536 - 07/13/18 at 02:12:06 Zwiebel who do you actually think the wolves are at this point?
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DansGame Ninja Offline I Love Mark 2.0! 3358 sex records	Re: One Night Ultimate Werewolf! DAY PHASE Reply #538 - 07/13/18 at 02:19:46 Leone wrote on 07/13/18 at 02:13:41: based on near-cleared village's claims, zoran is the only possible ww if village is still lying this late into the game then gg sock got his self-destruct wish So you believe Zwiebel over TvK?
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Reply #539 - 07/13/18 at 02:23:00

DansGame wrote on 07/13/18 at 02:19:46:

Leone wrote on 07/13/18 at 02:13:41:

based on near-cleared village's claims, zoran is the only possible ww

if village is still lying this late into the game then gg sock got his self-destruct wish

So you believe Zwiebel over TvK?

tvk's been all over the fuckin place and causing chaos since the beginning and timur has this whole subliminal messages thingy going on (he did this in pev games too) so yes i am inclined to believe him over tvk by a fair bit

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Zwiebel Legend Offline Kmaccy-Fan ate 6670 donuts Stuttgart Gender:	Re: One Night Ultimate Werewolf! DAY PHASE Reply #540 - 07/13/18 at 02:25:37 DansGame wrote on 07/13/18 at 02:12:06: Zwiebel who do you actually think the wolves are at this point? Zoran Wolf, Shock minion. Kleenex could be wolf if he drew wolf card from the center. Thing is, we just vote zoran and win
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Zwiebel Legend Offline Kmaccy-Fan drank 6670 beers Stuttgart Gender:	Re: One Night Ultimate Werewolf! DAY PHASE Reply #541 - 07/13/18 at 02:28:40 Voting zoran is win/win anyway, because in the very unplausible scenario that he is not wolf, he is hunter so he could take someone with him.
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Zwiebel Legend Offline Kmaccy-Fan punched 6670 kiddies Stuttgart Gender:	Re: One Night Ultimate Werewolf! DAY PHASE Reply #542 - 07/13/18 at 02:29:57 So the only thing zoran could at this point do to save himself is trying to claim another role. However, no one is gonna believe u, so you might as well forfeit and tell us that you're wolf
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Reply #543 - 07/13/18 at 02:36:21

Zwiebel wrote on 07/13/18 at 02:28:40:

Voting zoran is win/win anyway, because in the very unplausible scenario that he is not wolf, he is hunter so he could take someone with him.

Alright but that's one thing that's giving me pause about him being wolf, why would Zoran claim hunter if he was WW knowing that he could have claimed something that would not have gotten him killed? Sure his options were scarce but he could have for instance claimed mason since I said I robbed him.

However you're right we can vote Zoran and whoever he votes will die if he's actually hunter. BUT Zoran if this is the case then that means PAF is lying and you have to think long and hard about who to vote. I think it could mean PAF was initially the WW and he thinks Shock was initially minion

TvK you're going to have to fight hard now if you're real seer so we can actually solve this

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Reply #544 - 07/13/18 at 02:40:29

DansGame wrote on 07/13/18 at 02:36:21:

Zwiebel wrote on 07/13/18 at 02:28:40:

Voting zoran is win/win anyway, because in the very unplausible scenario that he is not wolf, he is hunter so he could take someone with him.

Alright but that's one thing that's giving me pause about him being wolf, why would Zoran claim hunter if he was WW knowing that he could have claimed something that would not have gotten him killed? Sure his options were scarce but he could have for instance claimed mason since I said I robbed him.

However you're right we can vote Zoran and whoever he votes will die if he's actually hunter. BUT Zoran if this is the case then that means PAF is lying and you have to think long and hard about who to vote. I think it could mean PAF was initially the WW and he thinks Shock was initially minion

TvK you're going to have to fight hard now if you're real seer so we can actually solve this

I pressured him into claiming hunter. Read back, hunter was only possible claim he could make. He obviously didn't want to, but every second longer he waited would've made him even more suspicious. You say he could've claimed mason? How could he, when shock claimed mason and said he had no partner...

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DansGame Ninja Offline I Love Mark 2.0! drank 3358 beers	Re: One Night Ultimate Werewolf! DAY PHASE Reply #546 - 07/13/18 at 02:41:59 Leone wrote on 07/13/18 at 02:40:45: Leone wrote on 07/13/18 at 02:06:51: oh wait maybe zoran as lone-ww saw hunter in reserve -> knew it was the only role he wouldnt be cc'd on oof D A N S G A Y M But that's still a role that would inevitably lead to him getting shot
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Reply #547 - 07/13/18 at 02:43:50

DansGame wrote on 07/13/18 at 02:41:59:

Leone wrote on 07/13/18 at 02:40:45:

Leone wrote on 07/13/18 at 02:06:51:

oh wait maybe zoran as lone-ww saw hunter in reserve -> knew it was the only role he wouldnt be cc'd on

oof

D A N S G A Y M

But that's still a role that would inevitably lead to him getting shot

What other choice did he have

Mason was claimed by shock with no partner, he could obviously no claim wolf and he couldn't claim tanner because I said I knew who the tanner was. He had no choice

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DansGame Ninja Offline I Love Mark 2.0! 3358 sex records	Re: One Night Ultimate Werewolf! DAY PHASE Reply #548 - 07/13/18 at 02:45:06 What were the claims at the moment Zoran claimed hunter? I mean either way we just vote for Zoran anyway but let's evaluate the world where he's actually the hunter just in case
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Zwiebel Legend Offline Kmaccy-Fan 6670 days karting Stuttgart Gender:	Re: One Night Ultimate Werewolf! DAY PHASE Reply #549 - 07/13/18 at 02:45:32 Also, keep in mind he probably thought that TvK was Vanilla. So he couldn't claim that either. Give me 1 good thing he could've claimed. O wait. There's none
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