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MC WW Top Ten and WR from Feb 20, 2008
02/18/18 at 11:49:28
 
I don't know if this has been brought up here before. To my knowledge, these pictures are not very known about. I was browsing for some MKWii pics and I stumbled across the GameSpy website that had some MKW screenshots. Keep in mind, I'm using the dates within the picture file names to make this sort of determination (which I could be totally wrong about). Some pics are super small because the picture is no longer on the website's server but the thumbnail still exists.

First here is a pic of what was probably how the HUD looked like before final touches were made for the production game. Date on pic says 4/10/2008. This is probably wrong considering MKW was publicly released on the same day (japan mkw released first).

http://wiimedia.gamespy.com/wii/image/article/865/865867/mario-kart-wii-20080...


Here is a Nintendo or Gamespy employee idling on WiFi. We can tell it's obviously Japan MKW on the default geolocation due to country flag is not configured.

http://media.ign.com/thumb/229/2294533/mario-kart-wii-20080220032431691_thumb...


Here is a pic of the MC WW Top Ten from 2/20/2008. It is all Miis with Japanese names. We know that the Staff Ghosts were done on mostly Japan Wiis while a few were done on Taiwanese Wiis. Taiwan Wiis run a Japan System Menu which obv runs Japan MKW. So even though it's all Japanese names on that leaderboard, it's possible some times came from Taiwan Wiis. Staff Ghosts were mostly set around Feb 2008.

http://media.ign.com/thumb/229/2294588/mario-kart-wii-20080220032551735_thumb...


The small pic is too hard to tell in detail what the 1st place time was, luckily there's a ghost preview pic of it.

http://media.ign.com/thumb/229/2294532/mario-kart-wii-20080220032430441_thumb...

Easy to tell the time is 1:29.711 done with Mario , maybe Mach Bike? (hard to tell). Japanese Mii name, no country flag set. Most likely done on Japanese Wii/MKW.


As mentioned earlier, this is probably already known. So I apologize if that's the case. Just thought this was pretty neat to stumble across.




Also, here what appears to be the pre production MKW logo. Pic date indicates July 13 2007

http://media.ign.com/thumb/205/2056920/mario-kart-wii-20070713093733822_thumb...



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Reply #1 - 02/18/18 at 12:02:49
 
Also here is a comparison chart plus Time Line that I worked on over time. This will help some understand more about the various Wii Consoles & MKW Discs

http://mkwii.org/console/

Done confuse the RMCC01 game ID with that one that some people call the "Taiwanese ISO". That is nothing but a Japan ISO with BRFNT edits by a Taiwan player named A9 Star. The official Letter code for Nintendo Traditional Chinese games is "W", not "C". Example: SSQW01. Keep in mind the Trad. Chinese games (only 8 ever made) still had the Japanese disc region code to be read by the Japan System Menu that were equipped on Taiwan Wiis. Nintendo never made a RMCW01 MKW game.
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Reply #2 - 02/18/18 at 12:35:31
 
Maybe someone could use a program to upscale the images and make them clearer?

Any former GameSpy employee could be very useful information for figuring out prehistory

I probably shouldn’t have stopped uploading those 11/04/2008 WRs
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Reply #3 - 02/18/18 at 13:14:45
 
If you zoom in on the top 10 a lot, you can decipher some of the times in places 2-10, and 2nd place was 1:35.xxx Grin

Keep in mind, the expert staff ghost was 1:33.702, which confirms (albeit un-usefully) that staff ghosts would NOT appear in the top 10, even if they were one of the top 10 fastest times done.
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Cole wrote on 02/18/18 at 13:26:22:


Nice prehistoric wheel icon for 10th place. What other prehistory things are floating around?

Other pictures show that your country flag would've appeared on your save file photo on the main menu
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Reply #6 - 02/18/18 at 17:08:32
 
Thanks Cole!

That symbol on 10th place is cool. Reminds me when I went thru a shit ton of hex values and found a bunch of unknown symbols (can only be read by Korean game) such as a old school telephone icon.
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Reply #7 - 02/18/18 at 20:21:31
 
This is some pretty interesting stuff. Great work finding all of this.

I highly doubt the game would have been significantly altered at all after February 2008, though, since the staff probably wouldn't have driven the staff ghosts with the knowledge that they weren't finished developing yet (they were all made within the 3rd and 4th weeks of February).
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Reply #8 - 02/18/18 at 23:49:04
 
Here's a screenshot of MC from April 10th from Mander. 1'29"711 doesn't appear on there, interestingly.

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Reply #9 - 02/19/18 at 09:00:04
 
WillD wrote on 02/18/18 at 23:49:04:
Here's a screenshot of MC from April 10th from Mander. 1'29"711 doesn't appear on there, interestingly.

https://i.imgur.com/Gu62fIp.jpg


Maybe that pic was fake and was just a preview of what the leaderboards would look like?

If only the web archive had the top 10 pics for the missing dates...
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Reply #10 - 02/19/18 at 19:43:06
 
It's possible Gamespy cleared out the top tens right before the release.
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InnovΔ wrote on 02/19/18 at 09:00:04:
If only the web archive had the top 10 pics for the missing dates...

What page would you even want archived that would have that day-by-day info?

Vega wrote on 02/19/18 at 19:43:06:
It's possible Gamespy cleared out the top tens right before the release.

That's a good point. It's also possible, though it seems less likely, that the player who had 1'29"711 could have changed his name/mii.
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Reply #12 - 02/21/18 at 02:52:34
 
everyone:

would love to find out more chart nuances before release.  how long were they active - the charts.  i wonder what UI the devs had when "modding / deleting times off charts" in 2008/9.  when did they officially stop editing the charts btw, 2009? i remmeber resets in 2010 potentially o.o
-"Chinese games (only 8 ever made)". more info please.
note: this post here starts off with the least interesting/significant text coincidentally of the whole post.
-3rd image looks like wr was TAS lol..
-1:29 mach in feb 2008 is actually an insane-as-fuck strong time.  thats like 1:26 funky.
-[] ''Also, here what appears to be the pre production MKW logo. Pic date indicates July 13 2007'' seen this on many youtube song vids.  um and who cares which iso shit was set on prerelease?
"Keep in mind, the expert staff ghost was 1:33.702, which confirms (albeit un-usefully) that staff ghosts would NOT appear in the top 10, even if they were one of the top 10 fastest times done." [/i]100% confirmed?

I highly doubt the game would have been significantly altered at all after February 2008, though, since the staff probably wouldn't have driven the staff ghosts with the knowledge that they weren't finished developing yet (they were all made within the 3rd and 4th weeks of February).

Happy ten year anniversary to those ghosts!!!

-Considering the physics are the same and they'd run on modern systems still, it's like the game was basically complete.
At a time over ten years ago.
Despite release an april, I can say this.  The current model of mario kart wii that was released publically as been now in existance how we all know and love it for over a decade officially.

-edit: is the11th character/symbol possibly actually an 11th slot - or  A DELETE BUTTON for possible hacked times in that img?
-'Here's a screenshot of MC from April 10th from Mander. 1'29"711 doesn't appear on there, interestingly''
they probbaly did a reset.in your image will theres a legit girl on the top ten.  has there ever been a girl on any MKW ww top ten since 2008? i wanna see the strongest female mkw TT run there has been, or one of.
That's a good point. It's also possible, though it seems less likely, that the player who had 1'29"711 could have changed his name/mii."
No. a name change would still show the time on the chart.
random thought: "While it seems to have the same footprint, Nintendo has decided to only let you place the console horizontally, you can’t put it in a vertical position using a stand like before. "
this was for the new wiis in 2011.  what happens if you put a disk in vertically lol

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1. "You must use a new data save file for this server. Using a data save with FCs made from another server will result in EC 60000"
so for each mkw server somoene makes, a randomly generated list of possible codes for that server only are generated?  seems finite af
2. whats the mostinteresting thing on ur site btw for me to see
3. "Nintendo's VR Matchmaking Algorithm makes it hard to join WWs if your VR rating is not near enough to the Host's VR "
Wait, is this why room splits used to happen: 6 strong, 6 weak players.  weak player is host.  host dc's.  strong player becomes host.
you said it matchmakes based on Vr.  since the host changed to someone with higher Vr, does it kick the low Vr people out and/or split the room?  why did those room splits happen.  yes legit like 12 player rooms split into like an 8 player and a 4 player room or w/e
4. and wth is region 7
5. why did region numbers obsess so many people like you said?
6. wait what? they were on the gamespy servers? nintendo was making gamespy host servers prerelease instead of nintendo themselves hosting server? how can u be sure gamespy had servers and nintendo didnt just allow them to use them or allow them to use private servers. is it possible more than 1 chinese ghost got online btw, maybe like a handful?
7."By deductive logic, it is safe to assume that there is a unique non-public Chinese MKW Disc and Chinese Mii. It is and always will be impossible to access the China region without hacks. "

Just one?  at one point you said there was zero, they were all destroyed, just some server data lingered.  then you said there was a handful (8 iirc???).  now there's One?
8. Bob-omb
- There cannot be more than 3 bob-ombs in play simaltaneously in a 10 player room

what about less?
9. - There cannot be more than 3 Stars in play simaltaneously in a 10 player room
what about MT - and how does this affect leaf pile algorithm?
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Reply #13 - 02/21/18 at 03:57:51
 
Rhodechill wrote on 02/21/18 at 02:52:34:
everyone:

would love to find out more chart nuances before release.  how long were they active - the charts.  i wonder what UI the devs had when "modding / deleting times off charts" in 2008/9.  when did they officially stop editing the charts btw, 2009? i remmeber resets in 2010 potentially o.o
-"Chinese games (only 8 ever made)". more info please.
-3rd image looks like wr was TAS lol..
-1:29 mach in feb 2008 is actually an insane-as-fuck strong time.  thats like 1:26 funky.
-[] ''Also, here what appears to be the pre production MKW logo. Pic date indicates July 13 2007'' seen this on many youtube song vids.  um and who cares which iso shit was set on prerelease?
"Keep in mind, the expert staff ghost was 1:33.702, which confirms (albeit un-usefully) that staff ghosts would NOT appear in the top 10, even if they were one of the top 10 fastest times done." [/i]100% confirmed?

I highly doubt the game would have been significantly altered at all after February 2008, though, since the staff probably wouldn't have driven the staff ghosts with the knowledge that they weren't finished developing yet (they were all made within the 3rd and 4th weeks of February).

Happy ten year anniversary to those ghosts!!!

-Considering the physics are the same and they'd run on modern systems still, it's like the game was basically complete.
At a time over ten years ago.
Despite release an april, I can say this.  The current model of mario kart wii that was released publically as been now in existance how we all know and love it for over a decade officially.

-edit: is the11th character/symbol possibly actually an 11th slot - or  A DELETE BUTTON for possible hacked times in that img?
-'Here's a screenshot of MC from April 10th from Mander. 1'29"711 doesn't appear on there, interestingly''
they probbaly did a reset.in your image will theres a legit girl on the top ten.  has there ever been a girl on any MKW ww top ten since 2008? i wanna see the strongest female mkw TT run there has been, or one of.
That's a good point. It's also possible, though it seems less likely, that the player who had 1'29"711 could have changed his name/mii."
No. a name change would still show the time on the chart.
random thought: "While it seems to have the same footprint, Nintendo has decided to only let you place the console horizontally, you can’t put it in a vertical position using a stand like before. "
this was for the new wiis in 2011.  what happens if you put a disk in vertically lol

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1. "You must use a new data save file for this server. Using a data save with FCs made from another server will result in EC 60000"
so for each mkw server somoene makes, a randomly generated list of possible codes for that server only are generated?  seems finite af
2. whats the mostinteresting thing on ur site btw for me to see
3. "Nintendo's VR Matchmaking Algorithm makes it hard to join WWs if your VR rating is not near enough to the Host's VR "
Wait, is this why room splits used to happen: 6 strong, 6 weak players.  weak player is host.  host dc's.  strong player becomes host.
you said it matchmakes based on Vr.  since the host changed to someone with higher Vr, does it kick the low Vr people out and/or split the room?  why did those room splits happen.  yes legit like 12 player rooms split into like an 8 player and a 4 player room or w/e
4. and wth is region 7
5. why did region numbers obsess so many people like you said?
6. wait what? they were on the gamespy servers? nintendo was making gamespy host servers prerelease instead of nintendo themselves hosting server? how can u be sure gamespy had servers and nintendo didnt just allow them to use them or allow them to use private servers. is it possible more than 1 chinese ghost got online btw, maybe like a handful?
7."By deductive logic, it is safe to assume that there is a unique non-public Chinese MKW Disc and Chinese Mii. It is and always will be impossible to access the China region without hacks. "

Just one?  at one point you said there was zero, they were all destroyed, just some server data lingered.  then you said there was a handful (8 iirc???).  now there's One?
8. Bob-omb
- There cannot be more than 3 bob-ombs in play simaltaneously in a 10 player room

what about less?
9. - There cannot be more than 3 Stars in play simaltaneously in a 10 player room
what about MT - and how does this affect leaf pile algorithm?


How long does it take you to type these posts?
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Reply #14 - 02/21/18 at 04:19:12
 
Half of them are italics/quotes/copypasta.  Six to sixteen minutes?

Are you more curious how I have time or how I have the will to actually write it?

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Reply #15 - 02/21/18 at 05:18:29
 
Rhodechill wrote on 02/21/18 at 04:19:12:
Half of them are italics/quotes/copypasta.  Six to sixteen minutes?

Are you more curious how I have time or how I have the will to actually write it?



The will to actually write it
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if you anonymize the names of mkw predators eventually the whole leaderboard will be anonymous


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Reply #16 - 02/21/18 at 20:37:51
 
InnovΔ wrote on 02/21/18 at 03:57:51:
How long does it take you to type these posts?

An equally important question is why you felt the need to quote the entire thing
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^Wait, that guy isn't Jaxon?/Wiilord?
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InnovΔ wrote on 02/21/18 at 05:18:29:
Rhodechill wrote on 02/21/18 at 04:19:12:
Half of them are italics/quotes/copypasta.  Six to sixteen minutes?

Are you more curious how I have time or how I have the will to actually write it?



The will to actually write it


Honestly on a keyboard it’s easy to go on for daaays when ur making a post. Every post I’ve made in the last 7-9 months have been from my iPhone, lol. Don’t know the last time I actually sat down at a PC. Can type around 80+ WPM on my iPhone anyways, which is fast enough for short-medium posts
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Rhodechill wrote on 02/22/18 at 10:13:44:
^Wait, that guy isn't Jaxon?/Wiilord?

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Reply #20 - 02/22/18 at 21:42:13
 
Rhodechill wrote on 02/22/18 at 10:13:44:
^Wait, that guy isn't Jaxon?/Wiilord?

Wait what? Are you asking if I'm Jaxon/Wiilord?
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Reply #21 - 02/22/18 at 22:35:59
 
@WillD Yes, but I asked the audience instead because an audience is more likely to reply than one person by a factor of how many are in the audience.  Who is the one that's been on this board for a while, and does tons of updating/organisation/archiving projects for mkw?

hahaae wrote on 02/22/18 at 11:14:51:
Honestly on a keyboard it’s easy to go on for daaays when ur making a post. Every post I’ve made in the last 7-9 months have been from my iPhone, lol. Don’t know the last time I actually sat down at a PC. Can type around 80+ WPM on my iPhone anyways, which is fast enough for short-medium posts


I can't type on phones retailed at <$~350. As soon as  i get my hands on an expensive phone i typo nothing.   every single phone ive owned tho which has been below that price i type 2 WPM and every other word is a typo. now i think i understand why many are switching to mobile sites - they can type.  i cant.  btw technology companies oftentimes water their shit down so they can easily "invent" a genius upgrade soon and sell that upgrade 7 times with variations or something.  p sure its happening with google now on a lot of things too. defs losing trust with google, esp with youtube.    
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Reply #22 - 02/23/18 at 17:57:49
 
Rhodechill wrote on 02/22/18 at 22:35:59:
but I asked the audience instead because an audience is more likely to reply than one person by a factor of how many are in the audience.

What are you even saying? No one brought that up..?


Rhodechill wrote on 02/22/18 at 22:35:59:
Who is the one that's been on this board for a while, and does tons of updating/organisation/archiving projects for mkw?

That's me. My name hasn't changed from WillD since like 2012 lol
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AlexPenev wrote on 08/08/12 at 03:51:30:
Did you try doing a mini turbo? That could change everything.
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Re: MC WW Top Ten and WR from Feb 20, 2008
Reply #23 - 02/23/18 at 18:25:39
 
WillD wrote on 02/23/18 at 17:57:49:
Rhodechill wrote on 02/22/18 at 22:35:59:
but I asked the audience instead because an audience is more likely to reply than one person by a factor of how many are in the audience.

What are you even saying? No one brought that up..?


Rhodechill wrote on 02/22/18 at 22:35:59:
Who is the one that's been on this board for a while, and does tons of updating/organisation/archiving projects for mkw?

That's me. My name hasn't changed from WillD since like 2012 lol

Yeah we are and always have been different people lol
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Rhodechill wrote on 02/16/18 at 09:53:50:
how do you get WR but bypass the top tens

Arvo57 wrote on 02/10/19 at 11:35:14:
PP can do whatever the fuck they want, I and nobody else can really change that

JawsTheShark wrote on 02/26/19 at 22:18:26:
Your sneak disses are desperate and weak!
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Re: MC WW Top Ten and WR from Feb 20, 2008
Reply #24 - 02/25/18 at 01:26:35
 
mind blown honestly
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RaminGER wrote on 08/14/09 at 12:01:14:
Syzygy [Tim] you are a fucking milkface i like to punch you in your fucking milkface ..

Why'd you cut holes in the face of your moon base? Don't you know about the temperature change?
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