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About David Batke...
11/25/17 at 12:02:33
 
David (David Batke) - Reason: Live Replay

According to a few discussions with this guy, it seems to me that he has been wrongfully banned all these years. I'd appreciate if someone has some experience about his case, since he has claimed to have been banned for recording other people's times with live replay.

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i just used live replay on my runs and one of them was blakes that i recorded but i never said it was mine lol


Again, don't quote me on this. I don't have any knowledge about the actual reasons regarding his ban. I just don't see the reason to keep this guy banned without proper reasoning behind it. Again, if someone presents proof of a valid reason to keep him banned, I'll be sure to admit my mistake.

Here is his chadsoft profile showing his progress, the guy has some pretty alright times (GV2, BCWii glitch etc.)

http://www.chadsoft.co.uk/time-trials/players/58/DF693E38F4F618.html

His BCWii glitch time was set on a no sound triggers file, but then again, Fox's 2:09.906 was also set on that and nobody seemed to make a fuss about that. (http://www.chadsoft.co.uk/time-trials/rkgd/55/A7/758483FADE5B8E7B566BE4029C89...) (This is not the main point though, I am just here to defend this guy and wish for the community to show some evidence since he seems to be clueless about the reasoning behind his ban.)

Thank you, I hope to see this gather at least a little attention.

(revoking bans in 2017 lolol)
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Reply #1 - 11/25/17 at 12:17:31
 
I support (davidbatke), there is no evidence this dude cheated
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Reply #2 - 11/25/17 at 16:51:51
 
http://www.mariokart64.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1382578208
I remember skimming over his channel ages ago and seeing some sketchy stuff.
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Reply #3 - 11/25/17 at 17:59:36
 
I've always thought as a community we can be a bit too harsh on certain people, I don't think life time bans are ever appropriate, at least not as a first offence.

If someone (inc. David obvs) can prove that all of their times they wish to submit are legit, why not let them re-join? The community isn't very big to start with, so why limit it further?

Obviously if they come back and do the same thing, a harsher punishment may be appropriate, just my opinion I guess. Smiley

Tbh idk who this guy is so if I'm being ignorant then my apologies.  Tongue

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Reply #4 - 11/25/17 at 21:14:43
 
(Sorry, this msg is handicapped. It was probably crap, anyway.)
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Reply #5 - 11/25/17 at 22:16:43
 
It seems to me that the banned players list on this forum was just a copy of this: http://web.archive.org/web/20140810050505/http://www.mkwiiu.com/index.php?top...
It's definitely possible that people have been wrongfully accused, considering I don't know how the list from the link above was put together in the first place, nor do I know its reliability
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Hugo wrote on 07/31/17 at 15:13:47:
Well, it would be like rolling a die and it landing tails every time. After every roll the chance of it being tails becomes less and less, because eventually it will land on heads.

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Reply #6 - 11/26/17 at 01:46:52
 
DwainiumB wrote on 11/25/17 at 16:51:51:
http://www.mariokart64.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1382578208
I remember skimming over his channel ages ago and seeing some sketchy stuff.


There it is. Thanks.

I understand the reasoning behind his ban, I do know that he was very immature at the time, but I'm guessing that's unlucky for him. He has proved himself with ctgp, but I'm not going to try make pp change it's policies. Just seems a little weird to ban someone for life just because they were stupid as a kid, we have all been immature at some point.

You don't send kids to prison for life, do you?
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Reply #7 - 11/26/17 at 07:05:17
 
Diamond wrote on 11/25/17 at 22:16:43:
It's definitely possible that people have been wrongfully accused


Victor is probably the main example. He was banned even though he didn't do anything
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Reply #8 - 11/26/17 at 10:36:15
 
That link to MKWiiU.com were my forums that I ran from my home server. David Batke was caught copying Ghosts from Maschell's database, tweaking the last lap, and sending them in as real times. He even admitted to this publicly on those forums.

That list from the link Diamond post only has the banned players listed if there was ACTUAL evidence or a confession. It was part of the rules for getting on that list. If there was only reasonable articulate suspicion, said player would be put on the Pending List which is sorta like a Frozen player here on the MKWPP.
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Reply #9 - 11/26/17 at 10:36:47
 
InnovΔ wrote on 11/26/17 at 07:05:17:
Diamond wrote on 11/25/17 at 22:16:43:
It's definitely possible that people have been wrongfully accused


Victor is probably the main example. He was banned even though he didn't do anything


Wrong unless you and I are thinking about two diff Victors.
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Reply #10 - 11/26/17 at 10:37:34
 
Arvo57 wrote on 11/26/17 at 01:46:52:
DwainiumB wrote on 11/25/17 at 16:51:51:
http://www.mariokart64.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1382578208
I remember skimming over his channel ages ago and seeing some sketchy stuff.


There it is. Thanks.

I understand the reasoning behind his ban, I do know that he was very immature at the time, but I'm guessing that's unlucky for him. He has proved himself with ctgp, but I'm not going to try make pp change it's policies. Just seems a little weird to ban someone for life just because they were stupid as a kid, we have all been immature at some point.

You don't send kids to prison for life, do you?


The lifetime bans work for the other MK's, we shouldn't be the exception especially with the large hacking/cheating community this game possesses.
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Reply #11 - 12/05/17 at 08:32:58
 
Vega wrote on 11/26/17 at 10:37:34:
Arvo57 wrote on 11/26/17 at 01:46:52:
DwainiumB wrote on 11/25/17 at 16:51:51:
http://www.mariokart64.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1382578208
I remember skimming over his channel ages ago and seeing some sketchy stuff.


There it is. Thanks.

I understand the reasoning behind his ban, I do know that he was very immature at the time, but I'm guessing that's unlucky for him. He has proved himself with ctgp, but I'm not going to try make pp change it's policies. Just seems a little weird to ban someone for life just because they were stupid as a kid, we have all been immature at some point.

You don't send kids to prison for life, do you?


The lifetime bans work for the other MK's, we shouldn't be the exception especially with the large hacking/cheating community this game possesses.

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Reply #12 - 04/08/18 at 16:47:32
 
So he's banned?
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Reply #13 - 04/08/18 at 20:17:28
 
Rhodechill wrote on 04/08/18 at 16:47:32:
So he's banned?

Yes, he's banned from the players page like he has been for the past 4 years
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Hugo wrote on 07/31/17 at 15:13:47:
Well, it would be like rolling a die and it landing tails every time. After every roll the chance of it being tails becomes less and less, because eventually it will land on heads.

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Reply #14 - 04/08/18 at 20:27:03
 
A well deserved ban.
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Reply #15 - 04/09/18 at 02:46:07
 
^ On the Players Page? Yes

He's is unbanned on CTGP/MKBoards like Daniel and Barney.  Smiley

Former cheaters wont get added or accepted on the PP anyways. In our discord community we had a few discussions and came to a conclusion.

There are 2 Top 10 threads independently to each other, tops on this site refuses former cheaters (more like  a "Moral-Top10" and the one on MKBoards adds former cheaters that proved their legitimacy
(More like a "Real-Top10" , that aims for the 10 best driven times on that course by actual legit players)
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Reply #16 - 04/09/18 at 03:35:20
 
if we're going to have a moral top 10 its just going to be a real top 10 as ex-cheaters who perhaps now have proven legit times (drove in ctgp.) I'm a trial-anti-purist in the sense that I feel like if there is sufficient proof that the time is legit, it should be counted. I guess in that sense I don't attach the time to the name and the good or bad history that the name brings.
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Reply #17 - 04/09/18 at 11:27:32
 
Can a Mod close this thread? There's no point for this to be open for random bumps.
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Reply #18 - 04/09/18 at 11:41:38
 
Vega wrote on 04/09/18 at 11:27:32:
Can a Mod close this thread? There's no point for this to be open for random bumps.


Close Rhodechill instead Smiley
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Reply #19 - 04/09/18 at 18:39:00
 
Vega wrote on 04/09/18 at 11:27:32:
Can a Mod close this thread? There's no point for this to be open for random bumps.

Tell that to Chrono Krysster in the general section
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Hugo wrote on 07/31/17 at 15:13:47:
Well, it would be like rolling a die and it landing tails every time. After every roll the chance of it being tails becomes less and less, because eventually it will land on heads.

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Walter is Australian, right?
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Reply #20 - 04/09/18 at 18:53:55
 
Diamond wrote on 04/09/18 at 18:39:00:
Vega wrote on 04/09/18 at 11:27:32:
Can a Mod close this thread? There's no point for this to be open for random bumps.

Tell that to Chrono Krysster in the general section



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