ALAKTORN wrote on 11/20/17 at 06:41:18:


I was wrong back then.

ALAKTORN wrote on 11/20/17 at 06:36:28:


I will not defend Timur, that is his job. I can definitely see a maf jumping on you after that claim.

Harambey180 wrote on 11/20/17 at 06:45:30:

Who looks the scumiest to you though? Is it still Alak

Diogo wrote on 11/20/17 at 06:26:33:

You’re misunderstanding, I’m not roleplaying. I haven’t watched Death Note in a couple years, I know a few famous things and some general ones, but many not details. And roleplaying isn’t my thing, probably. This is just how I play Mafia.

Zwiebel wrote on 11/20/17 at 06:33:06:

Right.

Zwiebel wrote on 11/20/17 at 06:33:06:

Sounds weak. You say it would “lose us the game”, but end the phrase with “gives advantage to Maf…”– you don’t sound very certain, do you? You also haven’t explained in any detail how exactly Mafia would be helped by this information.

Harambey180 wrote on 11/20/17 at 06:45:30:

This is terrible Town play. The Town needs to be active and post a lot, point out what sounds suspicious, share their ideas. Silence only helps the Mafia hide, and makes lynches random. We need information to make better informed lynches, and information won’t come out on its own– you have to be active.

Harambey180 wrote on 11/20/17 at 06:47:34:

I’m starting to like you better. Voting no lynch is typical Town noob behaviour, I did so in my first game as well. It’s technically considered to be poor Town play because it doesn’t flip anybody, giving no information going into D2 (imagine if we always vote no lynch– most of the kills would just be Mafia’s assured Night kills). The chance of lynching Mafia D1 is very small, but it’s there. Anyway, especially in low-power games, no lynching D1 is horrible Town play. If the game is high-powers though, it is less so imo. I don’t know if I’d ever go as far as saying not lynching is the best play (probably not), but yeah, that’s my paragraph on it anyway.

Harambey180 wrote on 11/20/17 at 06:57:26:

It's part of the game. Don't take anything too personally

Harambey180 wrote on 11/20/17 at 06:57:26:

If you go inactive and refuse to play the game you’re just gonna get lynched. If you’re Town you need to speak up, like I said.

You say I’m the most suspicious to you, and I take it it’s because of my attempted strategy. So do you think Town would fake claim, which would result in the real Town counter-claiming and Town lynching 2 Townies? This is why I keep saying fake claiming gives no advantage to Town, fake claiming is what Mafia is forced to do when Town starts claiming for real. And if the Mafia fucks up, the counter-claim from the real Town makes sure that 1 Mafia dies 100%, and there are 50/50 chances on getting it first try, too.

Harambey, I’m starting to think your vote on me was good for Town. It made Maf!Timur come out and jump on it, hoping to get a wagon going to shut down my idea. At first I was looking at it from a m/m angle, but now I’m thinking it was t/m, and Timur felt pressured to stop my idea. So early at the start of the game, to feel pressured like that could mean that his Mafia buddies were/are not online yet, so he had to act alone in trying to stop me. This makes everybody posting so far look like Town to me.

There are 14 players, almost certainly 1 or a few Neutrals. How many Mafia could there be? Regardless, of the ones posting so far, I think it’s fair to say the odds point at Timur being the only one.

Harambey, nothing to say about Zoran’s vote on you and my posts about how to play?

Alak,

you are so adamant on your roleclaim idea and as I said, I think it's positive if Maf has no info on roles or chars.

But what if they have? How much do YOU think it would help Maf if they knew all our Chars? Let's just assume they would have a safe claim list for that sake and just all claimed a different "safe char"

I say they could probably deduce the most powerful roles from that and get rid of them, making Maf's win chances much higher in the process.

You keep accusing me of "having too much info", but the fact you keep insisting on your point of view makes it look to me like you are the one that has more info than me.

Harambey180 wrote on 11/20/17 at 06:57:26:


Harambey, what do you think is the point of asking you questions if you don’t respond? I was liking your playstyle, but you’ve kinda raised my suspicions on you.

Also, what experience have you had with mafia outside on this forum?

ALAK: Oh then yeah,your strategy for town is the best for this type of game basically wins because town could aim for one person or no lynch each day and focus on which person the person that died aimed at.

Still too early to vote though....

Alright well, I'm back in the game now.

The reason I was quiet was because, to me, it felt like it was going personal, and I know it isn't cuz heck it's just a game, but it still does feel like it. I've spoken to Dans about this too, but he managed to persuade me not to quit, so now I'm just going to play on and see what happens  

Anyways, let's get back to playing this game again then.

First of all, as IsaaK asked, I don't really have much experience with mafia games yet. Up until a week ago, I didn't even know it existed   . But I've also played some ToS and looked at previous maf games, so at least I know something about it  
Also, I don't need to answer all questions that are asked, do I? I just said that I wouldn't respond to one question, and immediately you guys start to rant at me about why I'm not answering, and that I'm not contributing to the game. Well whatever, then I'll just answer all the questions...

I don't think Alak is really sus anymore. He seems convincing, but he probably has a lot of experience with this game, so it can't really be judged. For now I think he's Town because it does look like a nice strategy actually.
However he did start raise suspicion on me, which could also be a maf member trying to make others suspicious so they get lynched instead. But he'd be a good persuasive maf then
And now you mentioned it, I do think Zwiebel is sus atm. He is (if I'm correct) the only player so far to also give a second vote at someone, which could be a reason for someone to be maf. But I'm not too sure yet.

I can get the vote that was cast on me. Trying to hide away from the action is something what a maf would do. But I've been very active since the start of the game, and hiding away after having been active is something different than hiding since the beginning. And as I explained that was because I was just nervous/anxious, that's just how I am  

So yea, if ppl ask me questions from now on I'll likely respond to it. And if I find out something else I'll post it if I feel like it's good to share it.

Also I'll just cast a vote too

[vote]PAF[/vote]

He is one of the 5 players that haven't said anything yet, but he has been online on this forum since the game has started. It's pretty sus to me to be online here but not say anything as a participant. Maybe he's part of the maf for that? (as in, chats with the other maf during the game. That's a thing, right?)

ALAKTORN wrote on 11/20/17 at 06:31:44:






Diogo wrote on 11/20/17 at 09:22:55:


Time doesn't have anything to do with it. If you think someone's being scummy, even early Day 1, get your vote on them.

That said:

Diogo wrote on 11/20/17 at 05:43:53:


Neutral/hesitant

Diogo wrote on 11/20/17 at 05:43:53:


as if, perhaps, I know ALAK isn't lying?

Diogo wrote on 11/20/17 at 06:13:46:


Having trouble explaining what puts you off and trying to sound like you don't know things? Have someone else do the work for you and quote them?

Diogo wrote on 11/20/17 at 06:34:34:


Scumhunters, unite!

Diogo wrote on 11/20/17 at 09:22:55:


Finding it difficult to fake reads as scum, perhaps?

[vote]Dos Santos[/vote]