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Death Note Mafia - Day 4 (Read 14667 times)
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Reply #275 - 11/20/17 at 20:01:09
 
FUCK. Gawd DAYUM son. I'm tryna put together a single comprehensive post, but I'm finding so much retarded shit, I think it's gonna be best if I just respond to yall's dumbasses one at a fuckin time!

WOOOOO gotta LOVE bein done w/ dem exams tho! Puh-RAISE the walls!!

gonna start at most recent post and work BACK so i dont end up repeating others like a fuckin parrot.

TYG just entered like a retarded yet adorable little cocksprout, and I wanna see more real reads from the lad. IMPRESS US SON! PROVIDE US YOUR TRY-HARD YET INEVITABLY 100% WRONG TAKES ON CURRENT CONVERSATION!!!
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Reply #276 - 11/20/17 at 20:01:45
 
actually fuck that, ill do one person at a time instead working forward from the start
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Reply #277 - 11/20/17 at 20:11:21
 
I’m going to bed soon. This flu or whatever it is has fucked me up good. Bloodshot eyes from lack of sleep because my cough tries to expell my own damn soul each time or something... Fever for 8 days now corresponding to 8 pounds less body weight (unless that’s due to my cough removing my lungs? IDK)

The point is, laying in bed awake looking at this game much longer isn’t high on my to do list. So maybe do me first Leone? I’m not that far away from the top anyway.
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Reply #278 - 11/20/17 at 20:16:16
 
so this is gonna be for bray i suppose

#120 and 121

bray and paf ENTER (not just post) within like 2 minutes of each other, what the fuck

also 120 bray doesnt like alaktorn's idea for a bunch of reasons, not gonna recite em here

149 who teh fuck is Disanto  Grin Grin Grin

167 - brushes isaak calling out the temporally linked entries by equivocating posting and entering near the same time, and that question seems really weird to me for some reason idk, like he's tryna fish for info to make him hide better... idk

MY THOUGHTS ON PLAYER LAYOUT, cuz i saww this come up a few times:

I think anywhere from 3/1 to 2/1 TF/non-TF makes the most sense, so were lookin somewhere in the range of 8/4/2 (TF/KI/N) to 9/3/2... these are just my guesses tho based on past games setups

thoughts??????!???

oh also nobody's prolly gonna be killed for lack of activity D1 so yall need to shut the fuck up about that, unless tyg disappears for no damn reason

back to @bray

TO ANSWER YER 185, MR MUNCHKIN SIR:

um yeah its a waste of time cuz character names =/= alignment necessarily (just take mello for instance). I view the purpose of D1 as being, build a metric fuckton of interactions to look back on like a giant-ass dataset, so NK's and lynches tell us real info
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Reply #279 - 11/20/17 at 20:16:43
 
Shock wrote on 11/20/17 at 20:11:21:
I’m going to bed soon. This flu or whatever it is has fucked me up good. Bloodshot eyes from lack of sleep because my cough tries to expell my own damn soul each time or something... Fever for 8 days now corresponding to 8 pounds less body weight (unless that’s due to my cough removing my lungs? IDK)

The point is, laying in bed awake looking at this game much longer isn’t high on my to do list. So maybe do me first Leone? I’m not that far away from the top anyway.


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Reply #280 - 11/20/17 at 20:38:28
 
general thoughts on sock

inactive moreso than usual, i think the sickness alibis holds tho cuz hes been bitchin bout it like a little twinklepuff mksc fairyboy herculean god-child well before this shit show of knucklefuckpuppetry began

@sock

thoughts on my criticisms of alak's thing in my rambling op? also thougths on discussinfg characters D1? just link me if ypu already answered it

@99 what makes/made ya think diogo=scum? noob town act all wishywashy D1 plenty o the time

@109 ya think kira!alak would even be smart enough to come right outta the gate with a mello claim, knowing it unlikely that ppl would wanna claim this early, just to control the conversation and throw erryone off balance? personally i think he's incapable of seeing that far ahead

@172 tf made ya change yer mind on diogo? someone convince you he non-scummy at that point??\

ALSO what would ya propose we do D1 if not go off character hunches? not that i dont have an answer to that question, I wanna know yours

@178 lmfao at that vinnie retardedness, just gotta say that's some gold right there

@196 - any advanced read on vinnie? he looks like his usual hamster-retarded-town self to moi

ill also repeat my question to 172 in response to 196

@212 - "speculating char abilities dont help" -> does that w/ mello, looks satirical tho

also ill get to etch

@213 - I DONT WANNA TALK ABOUT THAT TEST FUCK IT FUCK LIFE FUCK EVERYTHING

@215 - yo, thoughts on etch's utter empathy that he didnt even fucking realize kyle wasnt playing? what role would you see making such a gaffe? i think that demonstrates that he's not just being facetious on purpose, but thats how i look at it (give him <2% chance doing that gaffe on purpose tbh)

@258 - you think etch is some sort'a angel/jester? the math REALLY doesnt support that but then a game w/ fewer players had a shitton of weird neutrals

@261 - this thing actually pinged my scumdar

Quote:
Now, "which in a way could seem scummy I guess" - that wording is pretty cautious, what's keeping you from just saying yeah, he's being pretty scummy?


it looks like you're trying to force him to collapse his uncertainty to a single NEGATIVE opinion.

@263 - reads on other ppl?

@269 - diamond being coached mebbe? one-liners are the best coaching method cuz its the easiest -- again the math dont support it but I wouldnt chuck any possibilities out just yet

das all i got for now

neutral read, one or two things im not fond of, like the sudden vote change and wording style in some places, ples respond to those criticisms or w/e idk im rambling now im ending this post and pressing 'post5'
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Reply #281 - 11/20/17 at 20:43:21
 
Quote:
etch's utter empathy


APATHY

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Reply #282 - 11/20/17 at 20:50:52
 
Vote removal was because Diogo claimed Near and I missed his hint.

As for the other thing, (less experienced) Mafia in my experience find it difficult to accuse with conviction because they know they are guilty and (unless bussing) their accused is innocent. That’s why I was pointing out that his wording seemed meek and tentative and that I didn’t like that.

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Reply #283 - 11/20/17 at 21:16:54
 
Shock wrote on 11/20/17 at 20:50:52:
Vote removal was because Diogo claimed Near and I missed his hint.

As for the other thing, (less experienced) Mafia in my experience find it difficult to accuse with conviction because they know they are guilty and (unless bussing) their accused is innocent. That’s why I was pointing out that his wording seemed meek and tentative and that I didn’t like that.

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when ya wake up:

updated reads?

you think diogo's claim is real? wat about alak's?

ALSO something that struck me as odd, you commented a couple times that "well not a whole lot is happening (interaction-wise) rn", well then why didn't you MAKE more interactions happen? question erryone and errything bruh

U GOTTA GO FUCKIN TURBO BROOO

now for PAF

120 - complimenting harambey? why? pocketing?? anyone can point that shit out and it never means a whole lot cuz both factions tend to do it (re past games where i made the mistKE of thinking otheriwse)

202 - comes out of a long break w/ only attacks on vinnie that others already pointed out, w/ weak reasoning of his own; also why were YOU convinced by diogo's claim? also the man just goes and parrots alak

next couple posts, tepid questions on alak then pressures etch

210 - did you seriously fucking miss the "gonna lose ppl to low activity" shtick from etch? even after you hopped on the "do shit etch!" bandwagon? smh, almost as if yer not actually reading the man's posts...!

226 - hops on the anti-etch wagon with a vote!  Shocked

233 - y not son?

256 - his reads are VERY safe reads lol, mostly echoing others' opinions

264 - basically says "lol no i wont back my claims with arguments and evidence"

what the fuck

how is this not getting more attention

you fag-muppets oughta be ashamed o yourselves!!!
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Reply #284 - 11/20/17 at 21:39:05
 
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#13 - mighty early to vote on some1 lol

#14 - you must be so good at suckin dick that ya got it down to an industrialized process

next few posts argues w/ alak about claiming

#39 "no townie should" that pinged my scumdar as narrative pushing

the rest of it is opposing alsk then disappearing lol

null read, not much to work with
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Reply #285 - 11/20/17 at 22:00:33
 
If there's someone focusing on me during the day at any point after I claimed my char,and die during the same Night,that means he is most likely part of the Kira Faction. That i what my roleclaims allows me to do for town.
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Reply #286 - 11/20/17 at 22:01:19
 
And if I die during the same night*
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Reply #287 - 11/20/17 at 22:06:54
 
Hey, sooooo I'm gonna start with Harambey since he's looked the scummiest all game to me regardless of his experience.....

I didn't like how he jumped on Alak by voting him immediately... I mean sure I'm fine with it if he's someone who wants to play this with an aggressive playstyle but really his playstyle has been all over the place. He's been active but I feel like he's been more passive than aggressive this game and in general i feel like an inconsistent playstyle could be a scummy thing. Maybe I'm going tooooo deep into that idk tho.

"Well, if Alaktorn has some kind of masterplan and he's a Townie, whatever his masterplan is it's most likely going to fail  Tongue"

Don't like this post at all. He later says he has no idea what Alak's masterplan would be and just saying it's gonna fail with a smiley face makes me feel like he's optimistic about the idea of town failing.


Just a quick thing about Alak here. Almost everyone has posted now, so I just wanna say that I think he did it as a bait to see people's reactions to it and maybe his idea was he could get reads from that?
@alak can you confirm? Just a thought... back to harambey


"I'm not in favor of Day 1 lynches because we don't really have info. The only information we have comes from others' comments, but there's no way to read in that. I want to see some 'actual facts' first (as in: night actions and stuff, or, if there's a lynch, who voted for the lynched player)

And I wanted to hear more about what Alak had to say, but he just picks other topics to talk about. Which is kind of sus to me, but I also don't want to get locked in a tunnel vision.

If I'm going to lynch someone on Day 1, then it's gonna be an inactive player. Otherwise I'm just not gonna vote right now."

I haaaaaaaaaaate this post. The majority of the information in this game comes from other's comments and lynching the most inactive player means we're lynching the player we have the least information on.

"Alaktorn, am I obliged to answer to your questions? By the way, I already removed my vote. I'm not gonna let myself get 'controlled' during the day."

Everyone should answer every question they're asked in the game so we can get as much information as possible I really don't like the dodging here.

"But you're creating so much theories so early in game, I really don't think it favors Town."

Apparently theory crafting doesn't favour town...........

"Also, why are you being so aggressive?"

Don't like this either, aggression is a very good way to get information and it looks like he's starting to feel the pressure here. It's hard to know if him feeling pressure here is more scummy or towny.... maybe some more experienced players could read it better?

"I'm gonna wait a while until I see more people become active, because right now the six of us are just accusing each other...... No more opinions from me on anything or anyone from you. I'll just see what the other players have to say and with which ones I agree or disagree"

So apparently activity is baaaaaaad? Like there's a good chance that there's mafia within those 6 players lol

"So I'm not going to lynch, and from my point of vision it's also better from Town. But if you have reasons for why it would be better to lynch someone at this point, go on, lynch someone."

He's just not trying to scumhunt at all it feels like. Like not lynching town just cuz there's a more than 50% chance town will die. That's only greater than 50% with no information.... I think the first maf game I played here I was maf with Dan and dan also advocated for no lynch there. Sooooo idk if this no lynch thing is a town or maf thing.

In response to who he thinks is the scummiest:
"I'm not gonna answer to that question. If I say it's Alak, that'll guaranteed make him shout at me again and accuse me of several things based on questionable reasons, while also coming up with new theories. If I say it's someone else pretty much the same stuff will happen.

I don't want to make anyone suspicious, nor say things that will most likely cause others to make players suspicious.
Feel free to ask me more questions but I won't respond to them."

Likeeee this is pretttyyyyy scummy right? Is it still possible to be n00b town? Kindaaaaaaa tough to know

So he seems like guaranteed maf buuuuuuut
"The reason I was quiet was because, to me, it felt like it was going personal, and I know it isn't cuz heck it's just a game, but it still does feel like it. I've spoken to Dans about this too, but he managed to persuade me not to quit, so now I'm just going to play on and see what happens"

This one throws me off a bit. So obviously the pressure got to him to the point where he wanted to quit. What do we make of that? Like I have no idea if that's a twon or maf thing someone please enlighten me lol

And then the PAF callout I liked cuz it fit with his idea of wanting to lynch someone active and he had a reason for it so he had consistency which is good I think.

Soooooooooooooooo basically he's made the scummiest posts but I have like no actual idea what his alignment is. I wanna hear some thoughts about his PAF vote as well as if the pressure getting to him is indicative of alignment or not pls and ty.

Also I'm just really tired... so I'm not gonna analyze other players for now and I'm just gonna post my reads quick if that's cool.
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Reply #288 - 11/20/17 at 22:08:18
 
Shock wrote on 11/20/17 at 16:20:36:
Right now, I suppose my top non-TF are:

Etch - obviously. He's not exactly being helpful. He seems to be too blatant about it though to be KF. Maybe an evil, neutral role of some sort who wants people to vote him? As far as connecting with DN, maybe Lind L Tailor? He was a decoy and convicted criminal, maybe Etch wins if we vote him enough? I just don't like the idea of lynching him or voting him right now and suggest he be killed at night if possible at this point



Keep in mind Rem is also a suicide character. And it'd be even worse if Etch indeed got Rem's powers.
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Reply #289 - 11/20/17 at 22:21:30
 
I mean these are my leans... I'm gonna expand on them tomorrow as to why my leans are this way but yeah sorry for not doing that now just really tired. Also if I were to cast a vote now it would be for harambey but I'm just not certain about him yet. I wanna see some answers for the questions I asked in my previous post pls and ty. Also fyi I won't be around for Eod tomorrow unfortunately... it's at 9pm est right? lemme check but yeah if it's 9pm est I can't be there, seeing a movie with a group of friends gg.
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Reply #290 - 11/20/17 at 22:39:27
 
What is going on.

P.A.F.625 wrote on 11/20/17 at 14:29:21:
Actually ALAK, why are you fixated on Timur and Shock, claiming them to be informed, when noone questioned Mello's alignment before me?

Them being informed isn’t my main theory. I just threw it out there. I think KF doesn’t have a safe claim list and Timur panicked at my suggestion.

Shock wrote on 11/20/17 at 20:50:52:
Vote removal was because Diogo claimed Near and I missed his hint.

That’s proof right there claiming character stops us from blindly lynching TF. Information helps TF more than it does KF. Even if we’re unlucky and they have a safe claim list and after claiming they get possible optimal Night play (with a lot of power roles Night play is always a shit-show– “optimal” doesn’t exist), I still don’t see the problem for TF. KF wants first and foremost to kill good players who are pinning them down during Day phases, so the noobs are left killing themselves and easy to lead. They don’t care about power roles as much.

Leone wrote on 11/20/17 at 21:39:05:
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#13 - mighty early to vote on some1 lol

#14 - you must be so good at suckin dick that ya got it down to an industrialized process

next few posts argues w/ alak about claiming

#39 "no townie should" that pinged my scumdar as narrative pushing

the rest of it is opposing alsk then disappearing lol

null read, not much to work with

(bolding mine)
Seriously? Not much to work with? Timur is the single player with the most you can work with. You point out his scumminess in his posts, then end with that? Doesn’t make you look good.

I still can’t believe literally nobody else has voted for Timur. He looks mighty scummy to me– and if other TF don’t vote him, KF will obviously not vote him– which only raises my suspicions that I’m right by the fact he’s still only at 1 vote. Somehow PAF and Etch got 2… lol

LewisRichards wrote on 11/20/17 at 22:06:54:
Just a quick thing about Alak here. Almost everyone has posted now, so I just wanna say that I think he did it as a bait to see people's reactions to it and maybe his idea was he could get reads from that?
@alak can you confirm? Just a thought... back to harambey

Seeing people’s reactions is always part of the play. But that’s not why I brought it up– I did because it helps TF.
@At the rest of your post: I agree that at first Harambey was scummy. But after that he started making good posts. Coached? I don’t think so. Shock also pointed it out– Harambey was #2 most posts behind me before he went off. Does a 1st game Mafia do this? I don’t think so.

TYG, did you miss Diogo’s Near claim? Why isn’t he a TF lean?

I’ll trust Diogo on Etch, but I don’t personally like him and don’t see what he’s seeing.
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I PINNED DOWN KF!TIMUR AFTER 10 FUCKING POSTS

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL GET FUCKED

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Reply #291 - 11/20/17 at 22:40:23
 
Diogo wrote on 11/20/17 at 15:25:26:
If you wanna vote me because of my terribad punctiation skills go ahead lmao,however its clearly not a good idea. Just looking for excuses to not have to deal with someone late in the game.


Lol but you did the exact same thing to me
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Reply #292 - 11/20/17 at 22:43:01
 
IsaaK. wrote on 11/20/17 at 22:40:23:
Diogo wrote on 11/20/17 at 15:25:26:
If you wanna vote me because of my terribad punctiation skills go ahead lmao,however its clearly not a good idea. Just looking for excuses to not have to deal with someone late in the game.


Lol but you did the exact same thing to me


Punctuation=/= sentences
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Reply #293 - 11/20/17 at 22:50:09
 
This is the last 13h stretch. I wanted to mention that TF should discuss what Night actions to take. There’s no way in hell we don’t have a Cop, so I want to know who everybody thinks the Cop should scan. Doctors can go with their gut if we have any (discussing who to heal would just make KF attack someone else), if we have Vigilantes then it would be good to discuss who to shoot, too. Shock mentioned that Etch would be a good shot. I trust Diogo so I don’t think that would be a good shot.

If we discuss Night actions and make a “community effort” in deciding who to shoot/scan, then the Night action itself gives no information away to the KF. Say someone is being really vocal about wanting to lynch 1 guy during the Day but nobody else agrees, then that guy is shot at Night– that’s basically a role claim. But if we go with democracy the action can’t be pinned down to 1 player.
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I PINNED DOWN KF!TIMUR AFTER 10 FUCKING POSTS

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL GET FUCKED

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Reply #294 - 11/20/17 at 22:51:02
 
Diogo wrote on 11/20/17 at 22:43:01:
IsaaK. wrote on 11/20/17 at 22:40:23:
Diogo wrote on 11/20/17 at 15:25:26:
If you wanna vote me because of my terribad punctiation skills go ahead lmao,however its clearly not a good idea. Just looking for excuses to not have to deal with someone late in the game.


Lol but you did the exact same thing to me


Punctuation=/= sentences

I forgot to mention that your usage of “typo” makes no sense. I don’t think you know what it means? And I’m surprised nobody else pointed it out.
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ALAKTORN wrote on 11/22/17 at 05:24:31:
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I PINNED DOWN KF!TIMUR AFTER 10 FUCKING POSTS

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Reply #295 - 11/20/17 at 22:51:28
 
Diogo wrote on 11/20/17 at 22:43:01:
IsaaK. wrote on 11/20/17 at 22:40:23:
Diogo wrote on 11/20/17 at 15:25:26:
If you wanna vote me because of my terribad punctiation skills go ahead lmao,however its clearly not a good idea. Just looking for excuses to not have to deal with someone late in the game.


Lol but you did the exact same thing to me


Punctuation=/= sentences


Diogo, am I still the scummiest in your eyes? What are your reads of other players?
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Reply #296 - 11/20/17 at 23:11:57
 
Young gun (aka young boys) Why do you have no read on Diogo after he claimed Near? Do you not believe him or did you overlook the post?
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Reply #297 - 11/20/17 at 23:12:57
 
Timur so far is 70% maf. I do not know if it is because of real life,but disappearing for so long after alak putting a fight against him does put him sus.

Harambey... I do not know if he is actually sayimg facts about how he left the game so early in. Im letting the doubt for now,but what he made at the start of the game made me jump to a 65% maf guy.

ALAK is town.I have read prev games and he seems totally different right know.I'm also his rival in the anime,but I have faith in him.

To me you are 75% maf for reasons stated above.

Diamond is at about 70%. Only aggresive in defense,I have not seen much else from him. There is nothing else to point out. Also,the only thing he stated when I mentionned you is literraly are u fuken srs.Also adds up to what I thought about how i think you are the ome with connections.

Vinnie,is on 50%. Because I do not know if he tried to use me to have infos about DN,i do not know if he blatantly tried to hide his lack of knowledge to us ( he could suddently have known about every char and imo that would have been sus) so for now i am totally uncertain about him.

Leone and Etch are the ones im mostly afraid of. Through the posts,they both claim neutral or kira faction characters. Theres a possibility that Etch is more town than Leone,though.We need timd to judge their plays even tho time is counted.

B.Ray is a weird guy. I need to review his posts because I dont have them in mind. Im sorry.

PAF seems neutral. He has shown a side of " I try to understand why'd think this way". No big deal so far
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Reply #298 - 11/20/17 at 23:15:49
 
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Diogo wrote on 11/20/17 at 15:32:15:
P.A.F.625 wrote on 11/20/17 at 15:26:26:
Diogo, idk what you're on about, maf communication is a typical metagame logic. And wtf do you mean about typos???
As for the Etch quote, i also don't know what you're on about... but are you trying to increase the odds of his character getting revealed?



Of course it is a metagame logic. I understand that as I often played the french werewolf game and we could be communicating together. I just find it super strange to come to such a conclusiom when it is really the worst move Mafia could do. That is the first typo.

Second one was pointed out by ALAKTORN. How can there be a considered crisis in day 1? I do not get it. Not at all. It may be a crisis for him because a few players are going deep aggresive this early in? That is what makes me think he is Mafia.

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Reply #299 - 11/20/17 at 23:20:14
 
^Yeah I get you’re pointing out weird things he said, but calling them “typos” makes no sense.
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