Leone wrote on 11/20/17 at 11:33:04:- imo your scenario doesn't help town cuz maf could just pull more rando good-guy characters outta the blue and lie about being them, 'specially if they know the list of chars (this lets em fakeclaim early on), and we'd end up w/ 100% good-guy claims -- we're operating under a framework where 14 chars were chosen, but that's not the whole DN cast ffs
- shouldnt we conceal power roles?
1. Fair point but I still think the information helps the TF (Task Force– will try to be more roleplay-ee from now on) more than it does KF (Kira Faction). In the worst-case scenario where KF knows characters and who to fakeclaim safely (we have no proof any of this is true), if we get them all to fakeclaim, then once one of them is lynched we’d get their real role, and know that what they claimed doesn’t exist. This means one of two things– worst-case scenario maybe they claimed a main character like L, which would put my Mello claim under suspicion (I honestly doubt this is true, but it would make the game more balanced in favor of KF), or they will have claimed some random nobody character– which then means that anybody else claiming randoms should be looked at thoroughly. And of course there’s the more favorable scenario: KF has no safe claim list and can make mistakes that are counter-claimed, and even if they’re lucky enough to not hit other people’s chars they’ll be forced to claim random nobody roles– which will be easy to track down as lies if most others are power roles. (Or they could wait it out until everybody else claims and out their whole team like that, lol.)
2. I always thought this was a high-powers game. So I’m not that afraid of letting KF know who the “power roles” are.
At the end of the day, I feel it’s far more likely that all main characters exist (Mello, Kira, Near, L, Ryuk, etc.) which means KF can only fakeclaim random nobodies– making themselves look suspicious, not to mention the fact they can fakeclaim someone else’s role and be outed by a counter-claim if they don’t have a list of safe fakeclaims.
(I’m gonna ask Dan about deaths– do they actually flip their character/role? Don’t think the rules mention this, but I assume they’ll flip.)
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