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Re: Death Note Mafia - Day 2
Reply #1100 - 11/23/17 at 12:58:55
 
[vote]B.Ray[/vote]

Please remove ur vote leone.

I wish you a good Eod2!  Smiley
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Re: Death Note Mafia - Day 2
Reply #1101 - 11/23/17 at 13:02:35
 
P.A.F.625 wrote on 11/23/17 at 12:13:02:
seems TYG didn't make himself look better at all lol. B.Ray is still a bit worse tho.


Something about this line is off. When evils are under pressure they tend to prioritize attempting to divert attention away from themselves and claiming that others are more sus. Mostly this is because it's harder to come up with reasons for why you're good and they're bad when, of course, you really are the bad one.

Further, if you were TF in this scenario, I'd expect you to be more relaxed. Even if you get mislynched, we can then shoot/lynch the other two and take down 2 non-TF. From a team perspective, your mislynch would still guarantee that we be successful in routing two others, and if that's not enough to win the game, it'd be really close to doing it. Instead, the lines preceding this one are a bit... panicked to say the least.
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Re: Death Note Mafia - Day 2
Reply #1102 - 11/23/17 at 13:04:40
 
Leone part 1

Leone wrote on 11/20/17 at 11:33:04:
@ALAKTOGAMETHROW

- imo your scenario doesn't help town cuz maf could just pull more rando good-guy characters outta the blue and lie about being them, 'specially if they know the list of chars (this lets em fakeclaim early on), and we'd end up w/ 100% good-guy claims -- we're operating under a framework where 14 chars were chosen, but that's not the whole DN cast ffs
- shouldnt we conceal power roles?



Against role claiming in his 1st post. He changed that opinion fast.


Leone wrote on 11/20/17 at 20:16:16:
bray and paf ENTER (not just post) within like 2 minutes of each other, what the fuck


This is not weird at all, in fact, it would be stupid for mafia to do this. Isaak and Harambey already mentioned it. I see this as an attempt to throw them under the bus a bit more and win favor points from Isaak and Harambey.


Leone wrote on 11/20/17 at 21:39:05:
timer

#13 - mighty early to vote on some1 lol

#14 - you must be so good at suckin dick that ya got it down to an industrialized process

next few posts argues w/ alak about claiming

#39 "no townie should" that pinged my scumdar as narrative pushing

the rest of it is opposing alsk then disappearing lol

null read, not much to work with



Very weak read on Timur considering he posted much more then PAF(#283), B. Ray (#278)and Etch (#321) who were much less active.

Leone wrote on 11/21/17 at 02:36:45:
i like to target high-posters cuz its easier for them to be taken for granted as tf due to "oh theyre active, no suspicion here" when in reality they could be manipulating entire arcs of conversation (re tvk when he was maf)

also its ez to target low-posters, less shit to dig through to find mistakes (eg zoran last game, went unnoticed largely due to sheer volume of post content)


Of course he wants to target high posters, he wants to get rid of strong town. This is what he did the last game and this is what he is doing now!!!

Leone wrote on 11/21/17 at 03:10:10:
ALAKTORN wrote on 11/21/17 at 02:59:27:
OK I’m a bit tired at everyone ignoring Timur. I’ve given you enough time to do your own things, now it’s time to answer my question. Question to everyone: in what world does not-Kira-aligned Timur vote for me in the first page and keep his vote, after I claimed a main character that is anti-Kira? Nobody else throughout the game has voted for me– you clearly all agree lynching a claimed Mello is a stupid idea. Why are you not attacking Timur for it, then?


could be for reaction/pressure, and also why would kira-aligned timur put himself in the spotlight by voting for you like that? he could just as oppose your idea w/o voting for you. I feel like your suspicion is largely driven by him voting you, and yeah sure he could be maf tryna pick off a big target but then, that's an unnecessarily risky play for him if he's k-aligned... am i missing a thing here?

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We need to wagon Timur and force him to character claim. I can already tell he’s gonna say some random nobody.


and if he doesn't? and another scumlean of ours counter-claims? then what? it'd be real easy for kira to fuck with your plan by fake-counterclaiming real claims then trying to manipulate the populace


Defending known Kira Timur.


Leone wrote on 11/21/17 at 03:47:00:
IF IM WRONG ABOUT WHOS MAF ILL LIVE THRU THE NIGHT

IF IM RIGHT ABOUT WHOS MAF ILL DIE TONIGHT



He didn't die, yet he still goes after same people on D2.

#385 i answered oh his false accusations and continued in #400. Very bad posts by Leone.

Leone wrote on 11/21/17 at 10:56:24:
thoughts on etch/zoran k/k bussing? just throwin' it out there, ik its unlikely math-wise


It is t/t and he is "just throwing" the complete opposite right there.

Leone wrote on 11/21/17 at 11:13:48:
vinnie diogo and zoran voted harambey at some point today

I sus zoran most of the three, diogo no difference, vinnie slight scum lean now, just from votes alone


Again all over me despite me putting Harambey as one of my 3 town leans (before he was revealed of course).

Leone wrote on 11/21/17 at 11:29:20:
fair point, but I'm asking specifically cuz zoran doesnt like the timur wagon being the only one


Some more pushing for me, although i never stated i don't like his wagon. Just setting me up for a myslinch.

Leone wrote on 11/21/17 at 11:47:47:
you think etch might've baited kira onto his wagon? his post content would seem to indicate that was his goal (assuming hes tf), just sit back and let kira accuse itself, a tactic fitting of his general attitude


Just keeps on going like he knows Timur is maf and Etch is town.

Leone wrote on 11/21/17 at 11:49:45:
im not ruling out k!etch obviously, but he looks better to me for the sole reason that my 2 top scumreads are sitting on top of him


But yeah, etch lynch would be fine.

Leaves Eod 1 5.5 hours early, but is 1st out of the gate on D2 to throw accusations.

HE IS THE ONLY PERSON WHO DIDN'T VOTE FOR KIRA AND WAS PUSING AN ACTIVE TOWN LYNCH FOR 1.5 DAYS.

Leone wrote on 11/22/17 at 05:03:18:
zoran looks fuckin horrible now, those votes, tryna get ppl off zwiebel etc

i mean fuckin look at it XD

indecisive after vinnie claim, etc

[vote]Zoran[/vote]



I fully explained my reason for voting Vinnie in #589. There is nothing to argue there. I know i'm town and someone says you are maf no matter what someone flips. That is it, done deal.

Leone wrote on 11/23/17 at 12:26:39:
@diogo one of (Zoran/Shock)

more leaning to zoran

weak character claim, weak reasoning, weak play in general

it feels like N or N evil tho, if im being honest


Back to his favorite target.

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Re: Death Note Mafia - Day 2
Reply #1103 - 11/23/17 at 13:04:42
 
Shock wrote on 11/23/17 at 13:02:35:
Instead, the lines preceding this one are a bit... panicked to say the least.

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Re: Death Note Mafia - Day 2
Reply #1104 - 11/23/17 at 13:09:17
 
Leone part 2

The point of this part is to show how he talks about Watari trio.

no control wrote on 11/22/17 at 05:37:21:
I was always gonna vote Vinnie after my 589. I was ready to push hard for his death. This is why i didn't include him on the list.


Leone wrote on 11/22/17 at 06:26:41:
CURRENT READS

TF lean

Diogo
ALAK
Diamond
Isaak

Weak TF lean

sock

Null

TYG

weak kira lean

BRay
PAF

kira lean

Zoran


He has been pretty nice to TYG.

On the other hand, he has talked the worst about Brian (this is pre claim from the Watari trio):

Leone wrote on 11/22/17 at 06:34:52:
lol here's a scenario -- Zoran weak at DN, Timur under the gun, Vinnie clueless at DN, BRay clueless at DN, and the plan they come up with is to have Vinnie claim neutral higuchi


Leone wrote on 11/22/17 at 06:37:41:
also if you're sure we got the last kira pegged, who ya wanna lynch first, zoran or bray?


Then come the claims from PAF and Brian.

Leone wrote on 11/22/17 at 13:42:57:
Leone wrote on 11/22/17 at 13:39:20:
also i wanna say paf looks scummier than bray to me


actually nvm disregard this, i cant decide who looks worse... fuck



Leone wrote on 11/22/17 at 18:33:09:
[vote]B.Ray[/vote]

until you come clean on your role, my vote stays on you. want me to switch to someone else? easy way to do that if you're tf.


Brian came clean, but the switch didn't come.

Leone wrote on 11/22/17 at 18:38:21:
PAF and B.Ray entered close to one another, remember?

PAF and B.Ray claimed Watari one right after the other, too.

Just sayin'. This points to k/k in my book.


Basicaly the entire point of this is to show that he is pushing for B Ray the hardest, Paf close behind and he is good to TYG.

Again nice to TYG:

Leone wrote on 11/22/17 at 23:25:46:
TYG's alibis holds, by the way, I've been watching his online time and he only just appeared when he started posting here for the first time since right after EOD1


As i said, you can just log out and see everything, not being online means absolutely nothing.

968-972 looks very weird to me. I don't buy that not being online and seeing talk for 1 second.

Quick note on TYG

LewisRichards wrote on 11/23/17 at 00:58:00:
so maybe like zorraaaaaannn?


Get out of here, you are barely posting, act immediately when there is an opportunity to throw town under the bus. Of course, this comes after Leone's question who might be the 5th maf.
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Re: Death Note Mafia - Day 2
Reply #1105 - 11/23/17 at 13:13:54
 
One more thing about the claims.

Leone keeps mentioning his claim character is more important then ones from me and isaak. I see it the other way around.

His entire game has been taking shots at me - town, with the exception of the watari trio situation which he can't obviously skip.

For the future, please keep in mind that he has been nice to TYG and all over me.
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Re: Death Note Mafia - Day 2
Reply #1106 - 11/23/17 at 13:16:08
 
lol Guys don’t believe Zoran. Leone played a much better game than him.

I’m going to sleep without voting, don’t wanna risk ending day early. If I die N2 go back and re-read my posts on what to do D3 etc.

Basically kill in order B.Ray, PAF, if anyone there is TF go to TYG next, if they’re k/k and game isn’t over order is Zoran, Shock, TYG, IsaaK, Leone IIRC.

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Re: Death Note Mafia - Day 2
Reply #1107 - 11/23/17 at 13:17:27
 
Zoran, what do you think of Diogo?
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Re: Death Note Mafia - Day 2
Reply #1108 - 11/23/17 at 13:23:38
 
Diogo wrote on 11/23/17 at 12:58:55:
[vote]B.Ray[/vote]

Please remove ur vote leone.

I wish you a good Eod2!  Smiley


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Re: Death Note Mafia - Day 2
Reply #1109 - 11/23/17 at 13:25:42
 
ill read+respond (where necessary) to that mountain of bullshit in a bit
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Re: Death Note Mafia - Day 2
Reply #1110 - 11/23/17 at 13:33:27
 
IsaaK. wrote on 11/23/17 at 13:17:27:
Zoran, what do you think of Diogo?

IGNORE THIS.


Also, would it surprise you that almost everyone apart from you has a town read on Leone? i can see why people are suspicious, I think you’re a neutral right now.
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Reply #1111 - 11/23/17 at 13:42:11
 
IsaaK. wrote on 11/23/17 at 13:33:27:
IsaaK. wrote on 11/23/17 at 13:17:27:
Zoran, what do you think of Diogo?

IGNORE THIS.


Also, would it surprise you that almost everyone apart from you has a town read on Leone? i can see why people are suspicious, I think you’re a neutral right now.


When you are town and someone has being attacking you for 2 days, there is no way you would consider him town.
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Reply #1112 - 11/23/17 at 13:44:02
 
At least i hope so.
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Reply #1113 - 11/23/17 at 13:47:51
 
About Shock, just read his posts. There is just something that doesn't feel right, i can't pinpoint it. Of all my maf leans, he is the smallest.
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Reply #1114 - 11/23/17 at 15:31:30
 
i feel like we haven't got any real reasons on why TYG is less scummy of the 3. I don't get it. Maybe I should read his posts again...
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Reply #1115 - 11/23/17 at 15:48:02
 
ITS 1 HR FROM EOD WHERE THE FUCK IS EVERYONE

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Reply #1116 - 11/23/17 at 15:50:06
 
EOD is in 2 hours and 10 minutes at 9:00 PM Eastern Time.
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Reply #1117 - 11/23/17 at 16:11:27
 
Ok guys, I know no one believes me but my EOD reads:

Basically confirmed Town: DiSantos, ALAK
Town: Leone (still have trust issues after last game left me traumatized)
Not sure: Diamond
Scum: PAF, TYG, Shock, Zoran

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Reply #1118 - 11/23/17 at 16:13:36
 
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Reply #1119 - 11/23/17 at 16:15:06
 
Explain your scum reads please.
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Reply #1120 - 11/23/17 at 16:16:38
 
I'd like to add Isaak to my scum reads.
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Reply #1121 - 11/23/17 at 16:21:57
 
DansGame wrote on 11/23/17 at 15:50:06:
EOD is in 2 hours and 10 minutes at 9:00 PM Eastern Time.


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Reply #1122 - 11/23/17 at 16:23:44
 
ALAKTORN wrote on 11/23/17 at 13:16:08:
Basically kill in order B.Ray, PAF, if anyone there is TF go to TYG next, if they’re k/k and game isn’t over order is Zoran, Shock, TYG, IsaaK, Leone IIRC.


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Reply #1123 - 11/23/17 at 16:29:20
 
P.A.F.625 wrote on 11/23/17 at 15:31:30:
i feel like we haven't got any real reasons on why TYG is less scummy of the 3. I don't get it. Maybe I should read his posts again...


bleh nvm . there are several things that make TYG better than b.ray.
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Reply #1124 - 11/23/17 at 16:31:09
 
I have a very hard time buying these reads from someone who knew who L was, exact same thing goes for TYG who didn't freaking vote for 2 days.

B.Ray wrote on 11/21/17 at 15:10:16:
Still a few pages behind but here are my reads:

Timur: Moderate Maf lean: Didn't like how he handled the ALAK thing early. I don't put much stock into him not posting however, I haven't read his defense yet, excited to read that.

Zoran: very slight Town lean, I find Zoran very tough to read but he seemed more "helpful"  to town last game and was mafia, this game not so much. So I'll go with neutral or Town.

PAF: neutral/town:  Same posting style as last game, I think he's brought up some good points thus far (can elaborate later)



B.Ray wrote on 11/21/17 at 15:16:28:
Vinny: Noob town read


Notice the Vinnie and Timur reads. This was just before Vinnie claimed.
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