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Thiradell wrote on 08/26/17 at 14:10:17:


Why does lynching me tell you a lot about John and Zwiebel? You're saying just because they are against me if I flip town they have to be Maf and vice versa?

I think think this is pretty weak reasoning, especially when we have certain concrete things we know. Players that are for sure linked. I.e. Me and Orange, TVK and Lewis. Why are you going of reads which can easily be wrong at this stage in the game when we have some proof. You're just hoping to learn something IF I flip Mafia? This sounds sketch to me, anyone else?

I'm just trying to figure out your thought process because I consider you a good player and I don't follow this line of reasoning at all.

the line of reasoning is, they've been anti-you, if you're mafia, they look good. That's one piece of the game among many that I've talked about.

TYG Day 1

Comes in a bit late, makes some observations, mostly about Leone, some on Dan.

He doesn't like Orange's 1st post. 155

He says he doesn't want Leone lynched. 168

In this entire episode he pretty much shared opinions only on Leone, Dan and Orange.

After this he comes in eod and has a big post about 4 of his maf leans:

LewisRichards wrote on 08/24/17 at 10:12:00:


After that he votes Orange and talks about possible PAF + orange mafia pair. Considering this theory, what do you think about Orange now?

He also expreses his possitive thoughts about Dan:

LewisRichards wrote on 08/24/17 at 10:34:26:


in 544 he talks about Brian being suspicious.

As of 604 he started talking about a Brian/Dan m/m pair and he sticked to that. He voted for Brian 1st and then switched to Dan. Considering this theory, what do you think of Brian now?

He also states that Leone is Basically 100% town. 613 Has this opinion stayed the same? Do you still see Leone as 100% town?

TYG Day 2

Shared his opinions on everyone, but very little explanation. 795

LewisRichards wrote on 08/26/17 at 11:34:36:


Why do you think so?

Could you elaborate more on your reads?

You should also vote and show where you stand now. I would like to see more activity and scum hunting from you as well.

johnboy81918 wrote on 08/26/17 at 15:19:42:


John I made a post about why I didn't scum read you as hard because I like your day 2 posts and theory's specifically the one about orange and I being linked and TVK and Lewis being linked. But no one has given me their opinions on this making me more weary. I also think we should talk about other things such as what happened in the night because that's a FACT. But we have not done that today instead there's been a whole lot of nonsense imo.

@Timur #862 (discussing N1)

Glad I'm not the only one that thinks scum launched the attack on TvK, that was my thought as well (see my #713).

@Timur #890 (discussing D1 wagons)

EXACTLY - I've been trying to get Brian to address this point as well. Scum were probably happy as hell that the primary wagons for most of the day were both on townies. Why would any scum stick out their neck just to bring out *more* info which would help town?

no control wrote on 08/26/17 at 06:12:03:


Caught upto this post.  

Try harder to do what EOD?  PAF or b.ray was going to be lynched no matter what i did.  

The other mafia member was on another person or hadn't voted.

Why wouldn't there be 3 mafia members?  4 seems high and 2 seems low with 12 players

It just seems that it always happens that way.  I don't have concrete evidence that it does, but from my recollection it does.

I went in detail through some people, the rest i'll do tomorrow.

Here is my list at this point with some explanations, i'll do a detailed one tomorrow once i read about everyone.

Town

John - He posted his theory in 444 where he expressed his concerns about both Dan and Paf being town. He is the only person that didn't end the day on a townie and he never voted for either Dan or PAF. Very active on D2 with some great analysis and good questions.

Town lean

Leone - Was my biggest town Lean, still feel good about him, but not as good as i feel about John. Will have to look at him more closely tomorrow.

TvK - Already had a slight town lean on him D1, started strong on D2 and appears like he has been a victim of an attack. Not quite sure what to think of that yet, would really like to see some more discussion about that. Most likely this was an attack on town imo. Hope he will pick up his activity tomorrow (RL).

Neutral

Timur - will have a look at him 1st thing tomorrow, didn't found anything that would make me move him in any direction.

Third - I liked how he picked up his activity on D2 with some great posts and big analysis. However, that D1 is still too much for me to call him town.

TyG - he was my town lean due to his interaction with Leone on D1, but after that he didn't show much D1. Ended the day without saying anything about 5 people. Very slow D2 start.

Maf lean

Brian - 814. He is more active D2 and is asking some good questions. I feel like i have to chase him to get an answer which is bad. Some answers i got were not satisfying at all in regards of content. Also, he still hasn't voted half way into D2.

SG - 807 and 810. Terrible D2, has done very little in this game, but still got very few votes so far, we need to pressure this otherwise he can just keep doing this!!!



Orange - 799 and 804. Terrible D2, has done very little in this game, but still got very few votes so far, we need to pressure this otherwise he can just keep doing this!!!

People need to place their votes!!!

Going to sleep now since i get up in 6 hours.

Will be here tomorrow since around 2-3 PM CET.

Thiradell wrote on 08/26/17 at 13:27:30:


Here is TvK's 22nd D2 post that you are referring to:
TvK wrote on 08/26/17 at 00:09:27:

Third, which part of my post is BS? Why would I not question his conviction on the D1 Brian wagon? When it was just me and him on it, he said he would have to switch back to PAF. Thankfully he stayed on, but once the wagon actually got going...TO THE POINT OF BEING THE LEADING WAGON...he jumped off last second and helped secure a mislynch?

So, given that nothing in the previous paragraph is even an interpretation and is literally just a factual listing of events...again I ask, which part of my post is BS?