johnboy81918 wrote on 08/25/17 at 14:24:05:Reads as of now...
Maf leans:
Orange - accusations and vote make no sense, that immediate unvote on Dan was sketchy as hell
Brian - too much anti-town content, and all the votes at EoD were made in such a way as to save him and lynch PAF (Sportsguy sending to tie + Dan, TvK, and Lewis all breaking the tie in favor of lynching PAF)
Town leans:
TvK - that vote to secure the PAF mislynch rather then send to RNG, wtf? You were supposedly on board with lynching Brian, if you thought he was the better lynch then a 50% chance is better than 0%. I would have you as a slight scum lean if not for the fact that you were attacked last night...see below.
Leone - seems to be trying to solve things, even if he's third party I feel he's helping town for now
Zoran - doing his usual good analysis, nothing scummy from him yet imo
Timur - my weakest town read, but seems to me to be pro-town
Null (somewhere between null and very slight maf leans, actually):
Sportsguy - hasn't done anything useful at all, so not explicitly "anti-town" but isn't helping at all, bad EoD vote
Third - same as Sportsguy, except no EoD vote since he wasn't around at EoD
Lewis - at least trying, but his EoD vote is bad
Thinking more about the attack/heal on TvK:
- it's definitely likely that TvK would draw a heal regardless of alignment
- I think it's *more* likely that the attack was scum-originated...I doubt a townie would have attacked TvK at this point in the game? Not sure, just a gut feeling.
- given the above, it makes me feel better about TvK than I did after EoD1
I also expect to see a full list of reads from every player at some point during D2.
I completely understand why my vote and accusations appear to make no sense. My vote on Dan was completely abrupt and out of nowhere. It was around 9:50 pm when I started writing that post and mum wanted me in bed soon, so I decided I had to find something which appeared suspicious and scummy and give reasons for my accusation because otherwise I would have gone to bed and the votes would have been finalised before morning, so I had to use my vote where I could.
no control wrote on 08/24/17 at 03:11:48:Orange Slices wrote on 08/24/17 at 02:46:26:Dan insisting on something is very suspicious. When scum hunting or searching through posts you should never make reads with absolute certainty.
Calling out somebody as a Town with absolute certainty could easily mean that player is a mafia with a significant night role - somebody who is vital to the team. So it would make sense for you to defend them with absolute certainty, as they're playing a vital role for the mafia who they cannot afford to lose.
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So the only reason Dan is your top scum read is his certainty? What about his vote on you?
His certainty was the primary reason why my top scum read was Dan. Being adamant on voting for/accusing somebody could have easily meant the opposite, in the sense that he wanted to convince players somebody was on the opposing team from which they're playing; maf read=town, town read=maf.
As for Dan's vote on me, I'll say it again. His vote on me was very early on during the day with my sketchy post on TvK in which I questioned his use of quotations over random and cherry-picked select phrases from his post to make it look like I had done some work, due to the game already being a couple pages long at the time of my first post (that post).