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Zwiebel wrote on 08/23/17 at 12:05:37: which is why I think Leone is probably not Town. I actually agree with Dan on the point that he is most likely jester.
However, I think the same as zoran: Dan pointed that out way too much and tried to bring the discussion back to YS every time he could. The thing is: In my eyes that makes him lean on the Maf side for me.
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So the idea after the 1st post is that Leone is probably not town. Then he does the same thing as PAF, agrees with his top maf read. Also he votes for Dan. To sum it up, Dan is Mafia, Leone is probably not town.
Then comes this post:
Zwiebel wrote on 08/23/17 at 12:08:06:Also, Dan/Leone Maf is basically impossible from my speculations. If Dan is Maf, Leone is either Third party or Town
In case Dan is mafia (which is the same thought process as in 1st post), suddenly Leone might be town? Those 2 posts happened inside 3 minutes. Pretty inconsistent imo.
I was just stating that I think Dan/Leone m/m is impossible, while m/t or m/3rd party is possible. That doesn't mean I think Leone being Town is more likely, just that it shouldn't be ruled out. I still believe that he is actually the jester and that Dan is Maf, my opinion of that has not changed. I merely stated possibilities.Besides his take on Dan/Leone situation, he posted some thoughts on town and maf leans, but no explanation of any kind.
Zwiebel wrote on 08/23/17 at 12:05:37: but so far I kinda got Townish feeling from PAF and Zoran and Mafia from TYG. Can't really pinpoint for now tho, just gut feeling.
Zwiebel wrote on 08/23/17 at 12:30:31:I like this post from TvK. Trying to get the discussion away from this whole derailing.
This is basically another shoot at Dan. If you felt like this was derailing (Dan/Leone communication), why is your only decent post until this point about Dan and Leone?
I think the whole discussion revolving around Leone being jester was a derailing, but that doesn't mean we can't take that and try to find scum with that help. That's what I have been trying to do, which I would say is not derailing? I just mean that debating if Leone is jester or not has been going on for far too long and should not continue to be the main point of discussion, but rather what the implications of that discussions are for finding maf.
Zwiebel wrote on 08/23/17 at 14:37:19:Normally I would agree that high postcount is most of the times an indicator for Town, however 90% of his posts were "jesterhunting"(or call it whatever u want)if anything so I will not accept this argument for him this game.
More on Dan
Zwiebel wrote on 08/23/17 at 16:31:40:I think Paf just doesn't know what the fuck to do. Could be Maf but I'd rather say he's just clueless Town.
Paf is town which he also stated in his 1st post so consistent there.
And then, out of nowhere and without providing any reasons:
Zwiebel wrote on 08/24/17 at 02:58:53:[unvote]
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Jumping on the easy wagon now, aren't you? That's too weak for me.
Why did you switch your vote at this point, has Dan became less scummy or Orange most scummy or was it only to put some heat on Orange?
Orange was right there, so I tried to put him under pressure and see what his reaction would be. Needless to say it didn't really work...other than the fact that he basically ignored me and went offline. For now, I will stay on him just for the sake of him getting to speak up more. If he doesn't, I'm more than willing to lynch him. Zwiebel wrote on 08/24/17 at 04:11:33:Can you arrange the players on my following brackets in order from scummiest(left) to most townish(right)? Reasoning would be welcome, but I can understand if you don't have reasoning for all of them, gut feeling is allright too.
1. [Dan, TYG, Leone]
2. [TvK, Zwiebel, John]
3. [Brian, Third, Sportsguy]
4. [Dan, PAF, Zoran]
Is this how you would put these people in order or is it just a random example?
The pairings itself are nor random, the order is random tho.In his latest posts pretty much focused on Dan and Orange.
What happened with TYG maf lean? Can you order your scum reads/leans in order from scummiest to towniest?
As I said, my leans at the time were basically just gut feelings. As TYG hasn't really posted that much more since then, my feelings haven't really changed on him, so I have no evidence for more than a gut feeling. If I had to order them, I'd probably go
1. Dan
2. Orange
3. TYGAny thoughts on players you haven't mentioned at all? (Brian, Sportsguy, Third, John, TvK)
Tbh, right now I could only tell you my gut feelings about all of them, but I do not have much evidence to actually go on about any of them. What I will say tho is, that the bottom 4 people in the postcount right now are all laying very low and should not get a free pass in this game. I know that Third and Sportsguy normally lay low on D1, but if they do not step it up, we should never just ignore them and let them be.
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