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I don't understand what you mean, if you think PAF is Town then it's a bad idea voting him?

no control wrote on 08/23/17 at 08:23:55:


I didn't say it at first but I also had the same thought that YS was more likely a town (or neutral) role than mafia, I think because of the perceived "helplessness" of Yoshistar and I would assume mafia members would be more aggressive people like Alaktorn if they were in the game.

PAF always seems unsure of himself on D1 and even later sometimes in every game I can remember and I think this is not mafia indicative of him. I think that !maf paf would act more sure of himself plus I already quoted a couple other things of his which I think sound like town.

Zwiebel wrote on 08/24/17 at 02:58:53:


The reasoning behind your vote makes absolutely no sense. Surely you would have known to have asked for other player's reasons behind voting for Dan before making a decision as to whether my stance on him made sense or was just a bandwagon.

no control wrote on 08/23/17 at 06:01:16:

I gave my own opinion to answer this question, in the other posts I displayed of Leone's at the time. I also used TvK's thoughts because even though I wasn't sure if I agreed with him, TvK is a strong player and I thought it was worth bringing up so I could get Third's thoughts about it

Orange Slices wrote on 08/24/17 at 03:18:23:


I mean, prove me wrong. Nothing you have said about Dan hasn't been said before. How is that not bandwagoning?

Zwiebel wrote on 08/24/17 at 03:08:36:


I firmly disagree with you with the caveat that I think searching for strong power roles openly is a terrible idea. However searching for a role that seems to be a jester or angel and likely not a strong PR possibly isn't a bad idea at all IMO. I don't see YS being a strong town PR if that's what Leone rolled. Maf can kill anybody but also if we confirm someone as not mafia that gives a doctor a chance to save a confirmed person and put mafia in a bad spot.

DansGame wrote on 08/24/17 at 03:25:34:


The thing is, we do not know how strong the roles attached to the names are. We can assume, but that is not safe at all. I would not risk it.

Also, as I have stated before, searching for an angel or jester is fine to me, it's a special case after all. It's just the fact that you were tunneling so hard on it that makes me suspicious of you.

Leone wrote on 08/23/17 at 21:59:56:


Thing is I remember PAF playing with a lot of confidence in the last game. When he was town and when he was able to make his own reads. Reads that even went against the general consensus.

DansGame wrote on 08/24/17 at 03:12:13:


Not sure i agree here, he pretty much destroyed that last game, i think he deserves more credit then you are giving him.

DansGame wrote on 08/24/17 at 03:18:36:


This is where i see the problem. You weren't sure you agree with his opinion, but still you used it to strengthen your point. You didn't really post many examples for Leone's bad post minus the crazy and this to me looks like you are catching on last straws to bring his argument down.

I think I see a pattern in people's accusations on me, from all the games I've played. Seems they want me to be one-sided. Sorry but that just isn't my style. Most of the times I explicit my read on people and which arguments are stronger, but I still feel like poiting out counter-arguments so I take everything into consideration and allow myself (and everyone else) to change my mind later on.
It gets pretty absurd when people claim that my counter-arguments make my entire reasoning useless. FFS, I still give town ideas and I still know which side to follow, for the current moment at least.
Also, like I said, I did the same in both games in which I was town, and in both I got wagoned for this. Are you willing to do the same mistake?
Also, it worked last game, so give me a chance.

With this in mind, I think scum would like to go thru this lame logic about my playstyle. My wagon probably isn't 100% town. I can say Thiradell is sort of excused bc he probably didn't read the past games. I don't like how Zoran and TvK ignore that I'm being myself even though they both read both previous games... can't conclude much, but I'll be damned if all 3 are town.

As for Dan.... he actually looks better by trying to get into my perspetive, would it be a good move for him as scum? And he does make a point about his defense, it does remind me of D1 of my first game. I'll keep my vote on him for now since pretty much noone triggers my scum radar.
There may be a chance he's pocketing me, but that's unlikely (Oh look, a counter-argument!! Forget everything he said and just lynch him already!!! )

Orange Slices wrote on 08/24/17 at 02:46:26:


I can't remember you saying that you thought Dan was even remotely scummy before this post. Well, you promised to make a list of your scumreads, but that didn't happen. To respond to the first line of your post: why is insisting on something scummy. Yes, I know only the mafia are sure of who is on their team and who isn't. But if you are town and you're certain that someone else is not town, wouldn't you try everything to convince other town members of this?

And for your second paragraph: I am among the top three posters as well. Why don't you think that I could be mafia pretending to be town? Did you notice anything in my game that shows that I'm definitely not using the reverse psychology tactic?

This post makes Orange a great lynch target in my opinion. Not only does he use really weird logic to jump onto one of the top wagons. He also chose Dan of those wagons. An orange flip would give us a lot of materal to work with.

I don't like how PAF has voted Dan, due to them equally being the most voted player. This may have been to put more pressure on Dan so he could attempt to prove his town allegiance or to simply jump on the bandwagon that would otherwise be on his shoulders.


Dans reason behind voting for me was completely justified at the time it was posted. I had made a really confusing and overly analytical post about TvK's reaction to receiving 3 out of 6 of the votes at that point. Since then I have had a very strong Town read towards him. Would you care to state your reasons for staying with this vote?

For now, I'm not really sure who to decide on

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