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Re: Forum-themed Mafia: Day 3
Reply #1550 - 08/29/17 at 14:24:34
 
ALSO hi tyg/zweebs i see ya there lurking  Smiley
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Reply #1551 - 08/29/17 at 14:27:19
 
Leone wrote on 08/29/17 at 14:23:13:
In light of the thira modkill, I'll give him my next wall of attention (also itll be easier/quicker than analyzing zoran's long-ass walls)

130 - agrees fully with 121, "John feels weird", all my posts are "good", not a fan of dan/tvk, INSTA-votes SG, "Zoran looks good" this entire post pings my scumdar in retrospect
135 - agrees with my reads "across the board"
140 - DEFENDS me
143 - doesnt care about ys (STILL defending me)
145 - view of me has changed (away from jester?)
173 - WONT give us his reads, but john still looks weird
224 - defends tvk as town
229 - asks if zoran quote compiling is scum
348 - calls PAF maf for second-guessing himself
350 - votes PAF but says sg still looks bad
351 - "you may be right" on dan thing, asks orange "for a decent scumread", wants bray to say smthn of substance
353 - "Leone could be anything lol", hits zwiebel for scenarios on me (MORE defending)

THEN he disappears for the rest of D1.

D2 shit next:

to this point thira has done next to nothing, came out swinging against tvk, agreeing with/defending me & liking zoran, votes paf after 1 post on him and disappears. it feels like hes trying to pocket me all day here, and he only goes after paf/sg in a substantial manner.


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Re: Forum-themed Mafia: Day 3
Reply #1552 - 08/29/17 at 14:28:54
 
Orange, Bray, John, if you had to use your votes rn, who'd you put em on, and why?????
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Re: Forum-themed Mafia: Day 3
Reply #1553 - 08/29/17 at 15:02:41
 
SG I see ya and tyg youre still lurking this is what? the 9th time Ive called you out on it?

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Reply #1554 - 08/29/17 at 15:09:03
 
Leone wrote on 08/29/17 at 14:28:54:
Orange, Bray, John, if you had to use your votes rn, who'd you put em on, and why?????

Stuck between Sportsguy and Lewis atm.

Leone wrote on 08/29/17 at 15:02:41:
SG I see ya and tyg youre still lurking this is what? the 9th time Ive called you out on it?

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THOUGHTS ON TODAYS SHIT? LEANS/READS? idk if you posted em all or not just yet

He's not going to contribute lol - we're halfway through D3 and he has fewer total posts than PAF, the D1 lynch. Shit, even Shock has almost as many Shocked
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Re: Forum-themed Mafia: Day 3
Reply #1555 - 08/29/17 at 15:11:01
 
You guys make it really hard for me to care about this game. I'm basically never home until super late and by then I'm too tired to actually go through and quote every post every post from 70 pages. Don't get me wrong, I care about the game, I'm not dedicating my life to it though, just playing when I have time, not gonna make extra time for it. So basically I'm always playing on my phone here, I'm trying my best. No way John isn't mafia but I don't care enough to fight about it anymore. Literally let mafia convince you to vote someone else, I don't care. I'm not throwing, I'll still try, just not worth it to try my best.
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Re: Forum-themed Mafia: Day 3
Reply #1556 - 08/29/17 at 15:12:13
 
Leone wrote on 08/29/17 at 15:02:41:
SG I see ya and tyg youre still lurking this is what? the 9th time Ive called you out on it?

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John and Zoran are mafia.  I'm leaning toward Orange as the last member.  

The zwiebel, tyg thing is strange.  
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Reply #1557 - 08/29/17 at 15:12:45
 
Leone wrote on 08/29/17 at 14:24:34:
ALSO hi tyg/zweebs i see ya there lurking  Smiley


I think I explained earlier that I would only be able to read rather than post most of the day.
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Reply #1558 - 08/29/17 at 15:15:39
 
Sportsguy001 wrote on 08/29/17 at 15:12:13:
Leone wrote on 08/29/17 at 15:02:41:
SG I see ya and tyg youre still lurking this is what? the 9th time Ive called you out on it?

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THOUGHTS ON TODAYS SHIT? LEANS/READS? idk if you posted em all or not just yet


John and Zoran are mafia.  I'm leaning toward Orange as the last member.  

The zwiebel, tyg thing is strange.  


wat abt thira modkill? the red text indicates maf alignment

ALSO thoughts on orange claim and shock's bit on him? I think he's neutral, a survivor role or smthn
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Re: Forum-themed Mafia: Day 3
Reply #1559 - 08/29/17 at 15:21:07
 
Leone wrote on 08/29/17 at 15:15:39:
Sportsguy001 wrote on 08/29/17 at 15:12:13:
Leone wrote on 08/29/17 at 15:02:41:
SG I see ya and tyg youre still lurking this is what? the 9th time Ive called you out on it?

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THOUGHTS ON TODAYS SHIT? LEANS/READS? idk if you posted em all or not just yet


John and Zoran are mafia.  I'm leaning toward Orange as the last member.  

The zwiebel, tyg thing is strange.  


wat abt thira modkill? the red text indicates maf alignment

ALSO thoughts on orange claim and shock's bit on him? I think he's neutral, a survivor role or smthn


That seems like a confusing situation.  Red text, but his name says town.  I don't know what that exactly means.  Shock has some crazy things happening in this game.  And etch is a mod

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Re: Forum-themed Mafia: Day 3
Reply #1560 - 08/29/17 at 15:23:16
 
Also shock said thirds win condition is still valid so i'm leaning toward he was just town.  No idea what his win condition would be though.
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Re: Forum-themed Mafia: Day 3
Reply #1561 - 08/29/17 at 15:30:53
 
THIRA SHIT CONTINUED (things in red especially pinged my scumdar) :

729 - I look weird, says shit to bray, Dan nk looks like framing me, "HAPPY with my PAF vote" despite the townflip??? in retrospect, DEFINITE evil-town slip here. LOL
771, wall before that - just summarizing Dan D1, thinks I look weird for "tunneling Dan"??
772 - brushes off criticism of his "happy with my vote" comment
773 - defends zwiebel
774 - leone=insane, mega-over-analyzing
775 - Likes TVK for agreeing with Zoran, another jab at SG
776 - tries to incriminate bray (he was really reaching here)
777 - "you suck" at SG  Grin
778 - summarizes eod1 wagons, lumps tyg in with maf reads
779 - gives reads:
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no control
Zwiebel
TvK

John
Leone

TYG
Sports

Brian
Orange


780 - why'd tvk get a heal regardless o alignment? cuz he=good player?
782 - hammers orange on his vote, puts words into orange's mouth
783 - KINDA agrees with sg's sentiment about having long posts ready to go at start-of-day
785 - real skeptical abt me, no reasoning tho
787 - promises reads, says tvk/zoran ez to overlook
856 - "john didnt befriend you bray"
866, 867 - summarizes zoran D1 and says he looks townie at this point... very little reason tho...
871, 872 - more zoran summary, "he only looks town & nothing I see that makes him look otherwise"
873 - votes orange out of nowhere and rationalizes about it IN HIS POST.
879, 883 - tvk summary: strokes tvk for his hitting orange's opening, tvk looks town, and also he doesnt like the orange wagon anymore and wants someone besides bray to jump to??? ...what?????
889 - tepid response to me body-slamming his D2 entry
893, 894 - more tvk d2 analysis, keeps calling his responses to bray/orange "elegant", then concludes town w/o much reasoning
895 - justifies backing off from orange after abrupt vote, then says bray=favorite wagon despite asking for other candidates in recent post???????
896 - doesnt want tvk to die N2
898, 899 - Zweebs D1, 2 summary, concludes townlean w/o much reasoning
900 - ASSUMES zoran and tvk=town, speculates on orange/bray lynches, asks about SG lynch (go figure!)
902 - thinks maf is 2 of sg/zweebellino/tyg/bray/orange
904 - "if bray=maf zweebel/jonny=town"
906 - questions bray's "links" between ppl
970 - dan was maf target, tvk was something else
973 - give tvk more credit for the bray wagon
1016, 17 - doesnt like my tvk wall and doesnt like the orange coaching thing, thinks better candidates out there for d2 lynch
1019 - asks zweibel about his vote+reads
1024 - disagrees with me, hardballs against SG AND USES THE SAME VERNACULAR AS JOHN TO DESCRIBE SG'S VOTE ON ZORAN:
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so his vote's gonna be wasted on Zoran

1026 - advocates for orange/bray lynches
1034 - not a fan of town claiming unless it's useful to town, to prevent a mislynch
1056 - READS
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no control
TvK

John
Leone
Zwiebel

TYG
Sportsguy

Orange
B.Ray

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1082 - doesn't question my claim AT ALL, votes TVK
1084 - "tvk might be dead anyway" VOTES ORANGE??!?!??!????!??????
1092 - "dunno if the bandage thing means anything"
1099 - nothing good in my tvk walls, "obvious you had info" @ myself
1108 - buys into bray's claim and says to not lynch
1117 - "Leone dies N2" and we lynch tvk d3 ?????
1119 - "bray didnt hafta give us his n2 plans"
1124 - asks john and zwieb to get off the bray wagon
1130 - still thinks tvk will die of his injuries
1138 - "no-one agrees w/ me on (1130), still wants tvk to be lynched d3"
1155 - votes tvk "cuz I quoted my role pm"
1159 - 'what if bray gets rb'd'
1166 - tyg hasnt voted (the only one he calls out for voting)
1172 - unvotes????!??!?!!??!!?!?!
1191 - waiting for tyg to vote... wat (ends not voting)

D3 SHIT NEXT!!!!!

he did way more D2, made some summaries of ppl and used tepid reasoning to conclude reads on em, concludes zoran=town w/ next to no reasonng, REALLY tunnels on SG and lets us know very well that he wants him gone, really flip-flopped weirdly at eod, thinking tvk would 'die of his injuries' to justify a non-vote then waits for tyg and ends up not voting, that and the othjer stuff I spotted reading through I'd think would be of interest so far.
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Re: Forum-themed Mafia: Day 3
Reply #1562 - 08/29/17 at 15:33:02
 
Sportsguy001 wrote on 08/29/17 at 15:23:16:
Also shock said thirds win condition is still valid so i'm leaning toward he was just town.  No idea what his win condition would be though.


if thira's ALIGNMENT were town then his role color would be green, not red. remember, "evil town", the first descriptor is important too
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Re: Forum-themed Mafia: Day 3
Reply #1563 - 08/29/17 at 15:33:59
 
also I could see "etch" having a daykill power, it kinda makes sense to me...?
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Reply #1564 - 08/29/17 at 15:36:49
 
John and Thira BOTH had a real prominent habit of defending Zoran.

If this game is setup as 7/3/1/1 where one of the 3 is 'evil town' then I see John and Zoran being maf. If the game is 2/8/1/1 where one of the 2 is 'evil town' then I see just zoran being maf cuz thira really defended him here.

We have no clue if thira knew his scumbuddies, but his defending zoran leads me to think he does know who his friends are, and that the "town" thing in his name would throw off scanner roles...???
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Reply #1565 - 08/29/17 at 15:38:28
 
also hold on, would there be a role that flips the opposite of their alignment...???

would that even exist?  Huh Huh
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Reply #1566 - 08/29/17 at 15:57:49
 
I want the lynch candidates today to be one of (John, Zoran).

So, I'll put out what I think each flip scenario would provide:

JOHN:
>SG looks really bad
>TYG looks super bad
>Orange looks worse to a degree
>Zoran looks better, not cleared tho
>Timur not much difference, maybe a bit better, but maybe the TYG/Timur thing just now was bussing, not sure
>Bray not much difference

JOHN:
>SG cleared
>Zoran almost certainly scumbuddy
>TYG looks better
>Bray not much difference
>timur looks better by proxy to tyg
>Orange looks better to a degree

ZORAN:
>SG, TYG looking awful
>John looking much cleaner
>Bray, Timur not alot different afaik
>Orange looks worse

ZORAN:
>John basically a goner
>SG almost cleared
>Bray again nothing much different
>TYG way cleaner
>Timur not much difference
>Orange looking cleaner as well

If John's maf that gives us the most concrete info thanks to TVK's info.
If John's town that gives us the least to work with.
If Zoran's maf we def wanna look into John, and SG looks way better.
If Zoran's town then turn attention to TYG, SG, Orange, maybe Timur for his TYG interactions.

Most likely? Not sure.

If given equal probability that these 2 are maf (not sure on this), then in eithe rcase Zoran gives us shit to work with.

I haven't yet analyzed Zoran, and I've only given a partial analysis on John. However, right now, Zoran feels scummier to me (cuz both John and Thira defended him hardcore and he's been pushing SG like those 2 did, and Thira flipped probable maf), so let's turn up the heat a bit.

THIS IS A PRELIMINARY VOTE. I'll change it if someone (prolly john but who knows) ends up looking worse.

[vote]No Control[/vote]

I'll finish Thira d3 stuff then move on to John D3 then do a Zoran wall (or 2 or 3, who knows lol)
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Reply #1567 - 08/29/17 at 16:01:52
 
@ppl online, thoughts on my Thira walls so far? He's hardcore defending Zoran this whole time, if John and I are right and Thira flipped maf (red lettering) wouldnt this make Zoran look scummy as fuck?
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Reply #1568 - 08/29/17 at 16:02:08
 
Leone wrote on 08/29/17 at 15:38:28:
also hold on, would there be a role that flips the opposite of their alignment...???

would that even exist?  Huh Huh

Isn't that what just happened? Still confused about Third's flip Undecided
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Reply #1569 - 08/29/17 at 16:02:23
 
LewisRichards wrote on 08/29/17 at 07:11:40:
Actually one thing I want to know from orange actually is what is his role in this game, he's already explained the ability which he probably isn't lying about but maybe it is a mafia role and it explains something about why there was no night kill? We could guess if it's a town or maf role idk just an idea, like he's already given the ability which is the important part.



The reason why there was no nightkill is because I was the one who got targetted. Unless town has some sort of vindicator role then the attack must have been carried out by the mafia.

As for my role, do you mean my abilities, alignment or character?
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Reply #1570 - 08/29/17 at 16:05:36
 
Orange Slices wrote on 08/29/17 at 16:02:23:
LewisRichards wrote on 08/29/17 at 07:11:40:
Actually one thing I want to know from orange actually is what is his role in this game, he's already explained the ability which he probably isn't lying about but maybe it is a mafia role and it explains something about why there was no night kill? We could guess if it's a town or maf role idk just an idea, like he's already given the ability which is the important part.



The reason why there was no nightkill is because I was the one who got targetted. Unless town has some sort of vindicator role then the attack must have been carried out by the mafia.

As for my role, do you mean my abilities, alignment or character?

Why do you think maf would attack you instead of anyone else?
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Reply #1571 - 08/29/17 at 16:06:07
 
I'm just gonna throw this out in the open, but I've had a gut feeling that Zoran was maf for a few days now. Unless something else comes up by EoD, my vote is made up. I hope I'm not wrong Undecided

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Reply #1572 - 08/29/17 at 16:08:46
 
johnboy81918 wrote on 08/29/17 at 16:05:36:
Orange Slices wrote on 08/29/17 at 16:02:23:
LewisRichards wrote on 08/29/17 at 07:11:40:
Actually one thing I want to know from orange actually is what is his role in this game, he's already explained the ability which he probably isn't lying about but maybe it is a mafia role and it explains something about why there was no night kill? We could guess if it's a town or maf role idk just an idea, like he's already given the ability which is the important part.



The reason why there was no nightkill is because I was the one who got targetted. Unless town has some sort of vindicator role then the attack must have been carried out by the mafia.

As for my role, do you mean my abilities, alignment or character?

Why do you think maf would attack you instead of anyone else?


The only reason I can think of is because I'm an easy target. I don't understand why they would anyway, because if I hadn't had that ability then I would have been cleared, which narrows possible players who are maf.
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Reply #1573 - 08/29/17 at 16:25:16
 
DON'T SKIP THIS POST. IK I SAY THAT ALOT BUT IF I NEVER MEANT IT BEFORE, I MEAN IT THIS TIME!!!!

Thira Part 3 (Day 3), I stopped labeling stuff in red partway through because so much of this looks so monumentally scummy :

1216 - calls Dan "angry"
1222 - thinks I'm jester, suggests there are 3 maf cuz Bray has a res power???? This non-sequitur might be a slip.
1300 - 'y cant leone just be mafia?' w/o any reasoning
1301 - laments that Dan basically said nothing of value then died again
1304 - thinks I'm maf cuz bad reads
1348 - agrees that John assessed his EOD2 play accurately after I pointed out Thira hadnt stated his reasons for said play
1349 - Thira here seems REAL eager to suggest 'Dan was doomed to die', or 'bray's resurrect isnt very effective', then questions Dan's reads on John/Zoran. This SCREAMS "i did the dayshoot look the other way!!"
1353 - THIS THIS THIS
Quote:
Were John/Zoran really worried about Dan revealing...something? guess it's probably that they just didn't like it because everybody knows Dan's town so everyone will trust Dan, and they figured now was as good a time as any.

DID HE SLIP HIS SCUMBUDDIES HERE???????

ALSO he then agrees with John that I =/= town AND says I over-emphasized EOD1/N1 stuff DESPITE JOHN PUSHING FOR EOD1/N1 CONVERSATION ALL DAY D2

1354 - AND THEN THIS HAPPENS
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Thiradell wrote on 08/28/17 at 20:57:39:
LewisRichards wrote on 08/28/17 at 20:55:06:
John Zoran Third maf team? Anyone? Thoughts?


not even sure where this is coming from or how it looked like I was defending John



TYG here didn't say ANYTHING about Thira defending John, yet he jumps to his OWN defense against this non-existent accusation (he has been defending Zoran though!)

1359 - suggests Dan just wasnt allowed to talk??....
1360 - defends against me calling out his overreaction in 1354 with THIS!!
Quote:
yeah I jumped straight to "I wasn't defending John" because I wasn't defending John

IT'S NOTHING BUT REDUNDANCY.
1361 thru 1366 - Dan spewing shit in DC, modkill me
1368 - THIS????????????????? vvvvv
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Thiradell wrote on 08/28/17 at 21:20:24:
LewisRichards wrote on 08/28/17 at 21:19:07:
Game is solved yo

thanks Dan and Brian

ALAKTORN wrote on 08/18/16 at 17:46:40:
End the fucking game.



not even close


1370 - votes himself???!?!?!?!
1372 - restates 1353
1384 - fine w/ being modkilled for DC peeking
1385 - Orange/SG are strongest maf reads, BUT he's not voting John rn cuz it's too close to majority????? (this implies he WOULD vote for john, which doesnt fit his maf leans at ALL..) then he says he "just doesn't care in general"
1391 - hadnt noticed orange roleclaim
1394 - orange roleclaim "looks legit", doesnt know who'd attack him, doesnt think maf would do so cuz no ides why maf would????? (zoran repeats this same thing later on) ...
1400 - votes SG (jeez, go figure!!) and leaves.

I think he slipped John as a scumbuddy here, and I think his massive defense of Zoran all game outs Zoran too.

I'm having a hard time seeing how this would be any different.

In any case, I now see even more of a chance that John is maf than Zoran is, but I'll let my vote wait so the day doesn't accidentally end early.

IF YOU SEE THE SAME SHIT I DO HERE THEN JOHN NEEDS TO GO TODAY. A SCUM FLIP FROM HIM DOOMS ZORAN, AND HIS LYNCH IS THE ONLY SCENARIO WHERE WE GET AN ABSOLUTE CLEAR (SG cleared).
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Re: Forum-themed Mafia: Day 3
Reply #1574 - 08/29/17 at 16:26:50
 
I like the theory about him being on team Maf with a potential day kill makes sense with the timing of the Dan kill. Maybe he knows 1 other player as scum and that's it. Maybe Dan named the person Third  knew  and he wanted to end where that conversation was going. Just a theory...
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