Zwiebel wrote on 08/29/17 at 06:22:45:


How would he know this.  BUT fine let's kill John and prove my innocence.  

It was part of his role, read eod2 lol

Thiradell wrote on 08/28/17 at 21:45:51:



I think Third went for Orange because he thought he was mafia. It was not a mafia hit. This makes John's claim look great.
I'm still not convinced Orange is what he says he is, mafia might have a way to dodge night attacks.

I think Sportsguy is the way to go today, everything points to him.

[vote]Sportsguy[/vote]

If someone has a different interpretation of happened tonight, please post it.

But it also means that one of them HAS TO BE Town. I don't know if it is so smart to lynch one of them today. Let's go through all of that:

Right now, we are 8 People alive. Both my scenarios include 2 Neutrals, because I'm convinced that Leone is a jester and I also assume that Thiradell was some sort of neutral role. I also assume that Thiradell was the one that had extra kill abilities besides Maf, so I will assume only 1 night kill will happen in the night. Maybe we still have a Town vig shot, I'm not accounting for that.

1. 4 Town 1 Neutral 3 Maf

2. 5 Town 1 Neutral 2 Maf

I think it has to be one of those. I think that the day kill originated from maf, and with such a high power one could assume that there are only 2 Maf...then again, resurrection is also a very strong role, so maybe it balances out and there are 3 Maf. Dunno, I think both options are possible.

If however option 1 is true:

If we lynch one of Sportsguy/John and are wrong, it would lead to

3 - 1 - 3

if their night kill goes through, it would be either

3 - 0 - 3 or

2 - 1 - 3

In both scenarios Maf just needs 1 "wrong vote" to hammer it home. Meaning that a mislynch in this scenario would basically lead to a guaranteed loss for us, unless someone gets miraculously saved in the night.

In scenario 2, we would be

5 - 1 - 2

if we mislynch, it would be

4 - 1 - 2

If NK goes through, it would be

3 - 1 - 2 or   4 - 0 - 2

Which means we would still have one more mislynch before we lose(assuming no save).



Anyway, my point of all this is, there is a risk we are already at LyLo right now, and we KNOW that one of Sportsguy and John has to be Town.

I think lynching one of them right now is super risky

Zwiebel what do you think happened to Dan. Do you really think someone other than John did this?

LewisRichards wrote on 08/29/17 at 06:49:03:


Use your brain, my point is that we know 100% from Tvk's claim that there is one Town between John/Sports.

Why lynch one of those guys when we know there's a Townie in between them when we might be at lylo?

I'm just saying, we do not have enough information just from that to know which one or even if one of them is Maf. And you have not made any argument besides "just listen to Dan and lynch him already".

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Zwiebel wrote on 08/29/17 at 06:59:00:


Lol wtf did you even read any of my posts last night? I clearly explained how mafia is fucking stupid if they wasted a day kill to frame John.

Fuck off you're being so dumb, explain to me why a different maf team would fucking waste a day kill to frame someone is guaranteed get mislynched

Zwiebel wrote on 08/29/17 at 06:44:21:

Regarding Your theory on Third having Kill abilities, is it standard if someone gets Modkilled that their abilities aren't revealed until EOD?

Actually one thing I want to know from orange actually is what is his role in this game, he's already explained the ability which he probably isn't lying about but maybe it is a mafia role and it explains something about why there was no night kill? We could guess if it's a town or maf role idk just an idea, like he's already given the ability which is the important part.

Zwiebel wrote on 08/29/17 at 07:11:12:


It's a lot less likely John lynch happens. Would be a lot better for alt maf team to wait till Dan mislynches John and possibly Zoran as well and then kill him.

What in the hell happened while I was gone?!

Since there seems to be a heavy chance of me getting lynched today, I'm putting this here right now:
Maf - 2 or 3 maf, contained within (Zoran, Lewis, Sportsguy, Leone)
I will freely admit, I *do not* have reasoning against Zoran right now. But Dan is too good of a player to fuck up so majorly and come out the way he did (with certainty that Zoran and me are scum), so I'm placing value in his input. Lewis, you are willing to jump on anything that someone else says, you haven't contributed a damn thing to help town and seem happy to help mislynch rather than actually THINK. Sportsguy, basically the same as Lewis, except he's not even *trying* to help town. Leone is confirmed to be NOT TOWN (whether scum or neutral remains to be seen). Anyone who argues otherwise is an idiot (which includes Leone himself, since he is still claiming to be town).