LewisRichards wrote on 08/28/17 at 17:14:38:


I didn't quote you so these were not your words, this was my interpretation of it. You have been asking for opinions from a fake cop for 2 days now and from what i see, you continue to agree with him.

LewisRichards wrote on 08/28/17 at 17:14:38:


His play was terrible for town, simply terrible, couldn't have done anything worse. He fake claimed cop to kill a townie. This is only genius from maf point of view.

LewisRichards wrote on 08/28/17 at 20:05:10:


Dan was also confident that Leone was YS and he is wrong now, at least on me.

LewisRichards wrote on 08/28/17 at 19:58:53:


It is a very bad idea. If you are so sure, why are you afraid to discuss this more?

LewisRichards wrote on 08/28/17 at 20:58:03:


Not really. Look back at our voting  history.

I was on Paf most day D1 and ended with Dan, on D2 i was on orange.

John basically opposed 2 choices i  made on D1 and went for Brian who was his main suspect in D2 as well.

Except that TvK vote in the end, our pressure was on different people.  

LewisRichards wrote on 08/28/17 at 20:55:06:


LewisRichards wrote on 08/28/17 at 21:16:40:


LewisRichards wrote on 08/28/17 at 21:19:07:



So you have been quite for 2 days, you come here and you think you solved it in 4 hours? You had nothing to say until 20 minutes prior to Dans death. Where were you for 4 hours since the day started?

Have you looked into the topic and searched for any signs of what Dan said about me and John? Or is it just based on his assumption? As for your jump on Third, what was that? Where is the evidance, 2 posts he made? anthing else?

You seam eagar to end this day as soon as possible.

Dan basically said John and Zoran was mafia.  We don't know his exact reasoning because of his internet issues?  BUT he obviously knew something.  They are the two people that posted the post wall as soon as d2 started.  I am a firm believer that is a strong mafia tendency.  One of those players is mafia.  I think it is Zoran.

[vote] no control [/vote]

Sportsguy001 wrote on 08/29/17 at 05:52:34:


Why Zoran and not John?

Dan basically said John and Zoran was mafia.  We don't know his exact reasoning because of his internet issues?  BUT he obviously knew something.  They are the two people that posted the post wall as soon as d2 started.  I am a firm believer that is a strong mafia tendency.  One of those players is mafia.  I think it is Zoran.

@Sportsguy please answer these:

996

Any thoughts on eod2?

Give us your full reads at this point please.

Sportsguy001 wrote on 08/29/17 at 05:52:34:


Any other reasons then that "Dan knew something"?

While you are here, would you please answer these as well?


no control wrote on 08/28/17 at 14:04:28:

So, I think first thing we should do is look back at the wagons D1 and D2


D1:

Dan, PAF, Orange and Brian get a lot of heat throughout the day. All of them had a wagon on them at one point in time, though I think Orange was the only one who was never in the lead concerning votes(not 100% sure, but I think was the case).

We KNOW that Dan and PAF were Town and that Brian is very likely to be Town after his claim, so we had at least 3 Town wagons going D1.

Third got Modkilled bro

As I said, the only wagon never really taking off was Orange. Maybe the Brian wagon was after all a try to save Orange from a lynch, but as I argued a lot earlier on D2, why would Maf not just sit back and join a wagon on Dan or PAF and deny us more information? I just see 0 reason for Maf to start a pointless wagon on another guy. Wouldn't they just lynch off either PAF or Dan and then attack Brian on D2? That would make a lot more sense in my eyes. I just can't wrap my head around the idea that setting up that wagon is a Maf thing to do, which makes it hard for me to believe Dan's statement that he is so sure that John is Maf.

Also, consider this: Since Dan died N1 and got revived N2, he probably had no opportunity to use any night action if he had one, so him claiming things on John and Zoran is not something we should blindly believe.

I mean, yes we know Dan is Town, but that doesn't mean we should just blindly follow him...we should definitely discuss the possibilities of his statements, but just taking it for the truth like TYG is terrible play. Makes him look a lot worse to me.


But back to Wagons: D2

It was mainly Orange vs Brian, then at the last second Leone comes in with his fake claim and makes us lynch TvK. IF we assume that Brian is Town and Orange is Maf, then before the TvK shenanigans happened there were me, TvK, John and Orange in favor of lynching Brian - I presume that at least one of his buddies has to be in there, to make sure Brian gets lynched over Orange. As we know that TvK is Town and that I know that I'm Town, John has to be the one.

So, it would kinda add up if John was scumbuddies with Orange, however as said earlier, I don't understand why John started the Brian wagon on D1 if he was Maf...other than that, I could see John/Orange much more than John/Zoran right now. Maybe they could possibly all 3 be Maf if there was a 3 man Maf team, but I think Zoran has played like a Town player this game. I'd say TYG or Sportsguy would be far more likely to be their team partner, however Sportsguy an John can't possibly both be maf(TvK claim), so I'd think that TYG is the most likely their partner if those 2 are Maf.

However, Sportsguy has played like shit this game imo, he has literally had 0 contribution this game and was never REALLY in pressure. If you're town and want to win this game, it is important you really step up today. Especially because of implications between you and John because of TvK's claim.

Right now my leans:

Basically cleared:

Brian

Probably Town:

Thiradell, Zoran

Probably Maf:

One of Sportsguy/John, TYG, Orange

Third party:

Leone

Zwiebel wrote on 08/29/17 at 06:04:01:


Mafia getting day kills?  That seems like a lot of power for the mafia.  And it came at a very convenient time for them.  

Sportsguy lynching John literally clears you 100%

One of John and Sportsguy is guaranteed to be town. It sucks that I was barely online during this day, but I guess it wouldn't have done me any good anyway with Leone's claim. Once again, this might confirm that I was the mafia's target this night. Best of luck to town.