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Re: Forum-themed Mafia: Day 3
Reply #1325 - 08/28/17 at 19:54:40

Leone wrote on 08/28/17 at 19:52:40:

John what are your reads any why do you think SG isn't town (that not being the case would confirm you as town, hence my reasoning your scumread on him would be something you'd wanna pursue)

johnboy81918 wrote on 08/28/17 at 13:32:41:

Current reads to start D3:

Town:
Dan (confirmed)
Brian (confirmed imo)
Zoran
Third
Timur

Neutral/slight scumlean:
Lewis
Orange

Maf:
Leone??
Sportsguy

Already talked about Sportsguy some yesterday, let me find that post...

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Re: Forum-themed Mafia: Day 3
Reply #1326 - 08/28/17 at 19:57:18

LIST OF LIVING PPL ONLINE SINCE THE DAN SHOOTING:

john (?)
orange (n?)
me (t)
tyg (?)
bray (likely t)
thira (?)
sg (?) (no motivation tho due to tvk's claim's implications)
zoran x
zwiebel (?)

Zoran wasn't on for the shot to be carried out, so imo that precludes him from having ordered it.

I know for a fact I didn't, because my role has nothing to do with daytime action.

I don't think bray did because I have a strong town lean on him after the resurrection.

As for everyone else on this list, either John panicked and shot Dan to get him off his tail, or someone else ordered it to frame you.

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B.Ray Elite Offline I Love Mark 2.0! fell 2707 times for marty Gender:	Re: Forum-themed Mafia: Day 3 Reply #1327 - 08/28/17 at 19:57:38 Thiradell, can you explain why you didn't vote for TVK? (your thought process at the EOD 2 pls)
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Leone Titan Offline Curious. 4390 holabolas København, soon Gender:	Re: Forum-themed Mafia: Day 3 Reply #1328 - 08/28/17 at 19:58:13 Also John why are your reads of Third and Zoran town? mind expanding on that?
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Re: Forum-themed Mafia: Day 3
Reply #1329 - 08/28/17 at 19:58:53

It sounds like Dan had put a lot of work into his reads. John and Zoran in general have actually played an extremely similar game if you think about it. I think John should be the lynch today since we get info about sportsguy and zoran. I'm worried that the something will convince us otherwise over the next 40ish hours and we'll forget about Dan's reads somehow and his resurraction will be in vain.

I'm not even sure how we can approach this game further properly without that info with Dan dead. We've mislyncged 2/2, and now we aren't sure what's going on and Dan's dead again. Only sure things we have is he was town and had a lot of stuff proving zoran and john were maf. I legitimately think ending the day early is not a bad idea, maf is playing a good game, they could easily convince us out of lynching John over the next 40ish hours.

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Leone Titan Offline Curious. drank 4390 beers København, soon Gender:	Re: Forum-themed Mafia: Day 3 Reply #1330 - 08/28/17 at 20:01:35 WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING LEWIS NEVER END A DAY EARLY GODDAMMIT WHY DO [i]YOUUUUUU[/i] THINK JOHN IS SCUM STOP SHEEPING OFF ME AND DEAD PEOPLE ALREADY ffs
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johnboy81918 King Offline helped 6972 people Atlanta, GA Gender:	Re: Forum-themed Mafia: Day 3 Reply #1331 - 08/28/17 at 20:02:21 B.Ray wrote on 08/28/17 at 19:57:38: Thiradell, can you explain why you didn't vote for TVK? (your thought process at the EOD 2 pls) He voted for him then unvoted to allow max discussion time since things were moving so fast.
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Re: Forum-themed Mafia: Day 3
Reply #1332 - 08/28/17 at 20:04:54

johnboy81918 wrote on 08/28/17 at 20:02:21:

B.Ray wrote on 08/28/17 at 19:57:38:

Thiradell, can you explain why you didn't vote for TVK? (your thought process at the EOD 2 pls)

He voted for him then unvoted to allow max discussion time since things were moving so fast.

how would you know this?????? he never said that here!......

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Re: Forum-themed Mafia: Day 3
Reply #1333 - 08/28/17 at 20:05:09

LewisRichards wrote on 08/28/17 at 19:58:53:

It sounds like Dan had put a lot of work into his reads. John and Zoran in general have actually played an extremely similar game if you think about it. I think John should be the lynch today since we get info about sportsguy and zoran. I'm worried that the something will convince us otherwise over the next 40ish hours and we'll forget about Dan's reads somehow and his resurraction will be in vain.

I'm not even sure how we can approach this game further properly without that info with Dan dead. We've mislyncged 2/2, and now we aren't sure what's going on and Dan's dead again. Only sure things we have is he was town and had a lot of stuff proving zoran and john were maf. I legitimately think ending the day early is not a bad idea, maf is playing a good game, they could easily convince us out of lynching John over the next 40ish hours.

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Lewis, what are your reasons?

Also, ending the day early? Smiley

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Re: Forum-themed Mafia: Day 3
Reply #1334 - 08/28/17 at 20:05:10

Leone wrote on 08/28/17 at 20:01:35:

WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING LEWIS

NEVER END A DAY EARLY GODDAMMIT

WHY DO [i]YOUUUUUU[/i] THINK JOHN IS SCUM

STOP SHEEPING OFF ME AND DEAD PEOPLE ALREADY

ffs

Lol fuck off my logic is sound. No one is framing this kill, Dan sounded so confident about his reads and alternative maf excluding John Zoran would not do this, they get free mislynch and and a night kill and the game is basically over. Literally no chance anyone's framing John/Zoran here.

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Re: Forum-themed Mafia: Day 3
Reply #1335 - 08/28/17 at 20:05:40

ok you know what this has been a long time coming (I keep promising it specifically), time to wall-analyze john so might be delays in replying to shit til this thing releases

john feel free to do the same to me, you claim to be a goody-two-shoes townie PI scumhunter, so put in the work and go into me if you wanna find anything (you wont besides my misled convictions thus far but go ahead) Grin

it'd be the first analysis of its kind on me this game?!1!!111! Shocked

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Re: Forum-themed Mafia: Day 3
Reply #1336 - 08/28/17 at 20:06:35

Leone wrote on 08/28/17 at 20:04:54:

johnboy81918 wrote on 08/28/17 at 20:02:21:

B.Ray wrote on 08/28/17 at 19:57:38:

Thiradell, can you explain why you didn't vote for TVK? (your thought process at the EOD 2 pls)

He voted for him then unvoted to allow max discussion time since things were moving so fast.

how would you know this?????? he never said that here!......

He literally unvoted then said he would wait for TYG to vote after that?

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theyounggun Ex Member	Re: Forum-themed Mafia: Day 3 Reply #1337 - 08/28/17 at 20:06:46 Also phone is at 3% and I'm not home. Likely will just be reading posts and not responding till I get home.
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B.Ray Elite Offline I Love Mark 2.0! worships 2707 kartgods Gender:	Re: Forum-themed Mafia: Day 3 Reply #1338 - 08/28/17 at 20:08:03 Completely agree [vote]John[/vote]
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Re: Forum-themed Mafia: Day 3
Reply #1339 - 08/28/17 at 20:09:31

LewisRichards wrote on 08/28/17 at 20:05:10:

Leone wrote on 08/28/17 at 20:01:35:

WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING LEWIS

NEVER END A DAY EARLY GODDAMMIT

WHY DO [i]YOUUUUUU[/i] THINK JOHN IS SCUM

STOP SHEEPING OFF ME AND DEAD PEOPLE ALREADY

ffs

Lol fuck off my logic is sound. No one is framing this kill, Dan sounded so confident about his reads and alternative maf excluding John Zoran would not do this, they get free mislynch and and a night kill and the game is basically over. Literally no chance anyone's framing John/Zoran here.

Can you explain this? You're saying that maf!John killed Dan during the day, to result in a lynch of myself? Am I understanding you correctly?

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B.Ray Elite Offline I Love Mark 2.0! missed 2707 mts Gender:	Re: Forum-themed Mafia: Day 3 Reply #1340 - 08/28/17 at 20:10:30 Is there a way to mute Leone? he posts too much BS
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johnboy81918 King Offline 6972 days karting Atlanta, GA Gender:	Re: Forum-themed Mafia: Day 3 Reply #1341 - 08/28/17 at 20:12:07 B.Ray wrote on 08/28/17 at 20:10:30: Is there a way to mute Leone? he posts too much BS Do you see any way Leone is town, at all? I asked this earlier and I want everyone to answer it. I think it's impossible (fake claim of scan) - but I still don't want to lynch him since it seems like a jester play...
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Leone Titan Offline Curious. ate 4390 donuts København, soon Gender:	Re: Forum-themed Mafia: Day 3 Reply #1342 - 08/28/17 at 20:16:55 B.Ray wrote on 08/28/17 at 20:10:30: Is there a way to mute Leone? he posts too much BS last time u ignored me u roleclaimed without (supposedly) knowing i had. just saying...
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Re: Forum-themed Mafia: Day 3
Reply #1343 - 08/28/17 at 20:20:09

johnboy81918 wrote on 08/28/17 at 20:09:31:

LewisRichards wrote on 08/28/17 at 20:05:10:

Leone wrote on 08/28/17 at 20:01:35:

WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING LEWIS

NEVER END A DAY EARLY GODDAMMIT

WHY DO [i]YOUUUUUU[/i] THINK JOHN IS SCUM

STOP SHEEPING OFF ME AND DEAD PEOPLE ALREADY

ffs

Lol fuck off my logic is sound. No one is framing this kill, Dan sounded so confident about his reads and alternative maf excluding John Zoran would not do this, they get free mislynch and and a night kill and the game is basically over. Literally no chance anyone's framing John/Zoran here.

Can you explain this? You're saying that maf!John killed Dan during the day, to result in a lynch of myself? Am I understanding you correctly?

No I'm saying maf John kills Dan and says he was framed because it's fucking easy. And maf not john doesn't do this kill because Dan gets you or Zoran mislynched. If John or Zoran aren't mafia and they are actually framing them here the mafia are fucking stupid. And obviously they aren't this stupud because they're winning.

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Leone Titan Offline Curious. drank 4390 beers København, soon Gender:	Re: Forum-themed Mafia: Day 3 Reply #1344 - 08/28/17 at 20:27:49 tyg thoughts on others making the dan shoot to frame/hard-bus john? I personally think it was maf in origin, either to frame/hard-bus or to get dan off their tail (personally think john panicked, could be wrong).
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theyounggun Ex Member	Re: Forum-themed Mafia: Day 3 Reply #1345 - 08/28/17 at 20:32:22 There are other ways to bus a maf member than to waste a day kill lol. And I already said my thoughts on framing, no chance this happens. Also I'm home now so I can post without worrying about my phone dying lol
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Orange Slices King Offline Oh shit a talking fruit 3265 days karting Australia, Adelaide Gender:	Re: Forum-themed Mafia: Day 3 Reply #1346 - 08/28/17 at 20:33:00 johnboy81918 wrote on 08/28/17 at 19:48:30: Another question at this point (for everyone): Leone is still claiming that he is townie - who believes this is even possible at this point? Unless Leone initiates another mis-lynch today, I'm inclined to believe he's neutral
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theyounggun Ex Member	Re: Forum-themed Mafia: Day 3 Reply #1347 - 08/28/17 at 20:36:20 Also we can assume mafia doesn't have a roleblocker right? Or a control ability either possibly?
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Thiradell Elite Offline mmmmk 6357 days karting Denver Gender:	Re: Forum-themed Mafia: Day 3 Reply #1348 - 08/28/17 at 20:40:38 johnboy81918 wrote on 08/28/17 at 20:02:21: B.Ray wrote on 08/28/17 at 19:57:38: Thiradell, can you explain why you didn't vote for TVK? (your thought process at the EOD 2 pls) He voted for him then unvoted to allow max discussion time since things were moving so fast.
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Re: Forum-themed Mafia: Day 3
Reply #1349 - 08/28/17 at 20:49:07

DansGame wrote on 08/28/17 at 13:39:12:

Alright guys. I'm a bit busy right now but...

Zoran and John, get fucked. I know you guys are both mafia. We ARE LYNCHING JOHN today.

DansGame wrote on 08/28/17 at 13:39:59:

No one died also?

DansGame wrote on 08/28/17 at 13:40:47:

I will fill you guys in in a couple hours about what I think but Zoran and John are your team, maybe plus one.

DansGame wrote on 08/28/17 at 13:46:50:

johnboy81918 wrote on 08/27/17 at 13:55:58:

TvK wrote on 08/27/17 at 13:53:51:

One of John and Sportsguy is guaranteed to be town. It sucks that I was barely online during this day, but I guess it wouldn't have done me any good anyway with Leone's claim. Once again, this might confirm that I was the mafia's target this night. Best of luck to town.

If you end up flipping town, Leone will die D3, guaranteed. So even under the premise that Leone is fake-claiming, D3 is guaranteed to not be a mislynch.

Nice try buddy! Leone is 3rd party for sure, whether SK or jester. Not lynching him, we're lynching you today.

DansGame wrote on 08/28/17 at 13:54:58:

When I get home, scum

DansGame wrote on 08/28/17 at 14:27:19:

Alright, I just got home. Getting to work now. I'll start with John and maybe say some stuff about Zoran and others at some points. This might take awhile but we have a lot of time anyway.

DansGame wrote on 08/28/17 at 14:27:43:

Thiradell wrote on 08/28/17 at 14:26:21:

why is Dan so angry

what is Leone if not scum

I won't be around for a few hours, on lunch at work atm

Not angry. Itching to contribute because I've been sitting on this stuff for two days.

DansGame wrote on 08/28/17 at 14:55:33:

Wifi at my house went out which makes this a fuckton harder - either I have to do this on my phone, or I might have to do this tomorrow UGH

DansGame wrote on 08/28/17 at 15:26:09:

DUDE ORANGE BRIAN FUCKING RESURRECTED ME! Lol

Alright well unfortunately I have to try to fix my wifi tonight and then I have to go to a meeting so my accusations will probably have to wait for tomorrow IRL but don't worry, they'll come with plenty of time for everyone to see and discuss them.

DansGame wrote on 08/28/17 at 17:32:22:

Oh btw while I'm out one thing that I think is really important, is was there a vig shot N1?

I don't think Leone is an SK, I think he's a jester. I think maf might have either one extra kill the whole game or might have an odd night vig. If someone in the town attacked either me or TvK on N1, they need to speak up.

I don't know what to think about what happened last night. I have to believe mafia attacked Orange and he has some kind of strange ability that makes him live an extra day or something. It might be worth it for him to claim.

DansGame wrote on 08/28/17 at 17:34:25:

Leone wrote on 08/28/17 at 17:31:09:

oh also if john=maf then sg=town, guaranteed based on TVK's role

Yes, this is why we lynch John i promise I will get into all the big stuff tomorrow morning. I don't want to put small parts of my accusation out there for maf to be able to strategize against before I throw the whole thing out there.

this look weird to anybody else? at least twice Dan says "oh don't worry, we have plenty of time!" Hard to dream up a scenario, would have to be something like Brian's resurrect power isn't very effective, Dan wasn't allowed to give any real reads, Dan was doomed to die within a few hours...

Dan seemed 100% sure that John/Zoran were scum but didn't even hint as to why. Dunno how you can be that sure off of reads, and dunno why he wouldn't talk about it if he had more than reads

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