johnboy81918 wrote on 08/28/17 at 17:45:28:


isn't roleblocking only for special roles like yoshi star/ressurection etc? not for basic Maf kills?

B.Ray wrote on 08/28/17 at 17:54:44:

Even if Leone were maf, he would not be able to carry out the attack last night - he lost all actions for the night. Because you claimed something that would be nearly impossible to fake, I didn't want to block you (this was the biggest risk), my biggest scumread was Sportsguy, so I gambled and chose him to block. This is why I was really adamant about asking people about N2 right away - because from Shock's wording at start of D2 vs. start of D3, I feel that there wasn't actually an attack last night. This makes me think that I blocked the attack before it could happen.

What the flying fuck is this game??????

Do NOT believe Leone. I should've fuckin stayed with my reads. As Dan said, Leone has to be 3rd party, very likely to be jester. I see 0% chance that Leone makes that play as Town when he doesn't know for sure that TvK is Maf. Yeah sure in hindsight his play might've saved us because brian stayed alive, but there was no way leone planned this all.

I'm so sorry, I'm fuckin stupid, Leone's claim was too late to fully analyze for me. As a jester it makes sense, he tried to setup a mislynch chain on himself by fake claiming. Especially the "Dark blindfold" part where he says that he visited TvK, yet TvK said that he did not get told that anyone visited him. Everyone would think that he tried to make that up just to lynch TvK once TvK flipped Town.

If I'm wrong on this then I don't know anything anymore.

Also, seeing that Dan was a 100% cleared Town at this point, the kill on Dan has to be a Maf kill, but how the fuck does Maf have a day kill? And on top of that, with 2 people dieing on N1, I doubt that Maf would get a day shot AND a night extra shot. The kill on on one of TvK and Dan had to be the work of either a Town or 3rd party with that in mind...but then again, IF there is an SK in the game, why did no kill go through today? I can see one kill being blocked(especially since there's a claim on a roleblock), but both? How likely is that?

This is gonna be a pain to figure out.

DansGame wrote on 08/28/17 at 17:32:22:


I agree with that, if a Townie shot someone at N1, he should speak up, otherwise we are gonne stay in the dark on that forever..

Analysis of relevant EOD2 posts past my claim (leaving out TVK catching-up-stuff for instance) :

1080 - "LMAO LEONE" by John (if he's maf as dan suggests [will hafta check his posts, re: upcoming walls] he's all like "lol this guy just fake-claimed and guaranteed us a new mislynch")
1082 - thira buys my claim and votes TVK despite saying we "could come back to him eventually"
1083 - john wants to note ppls' tvk reads before my claim
1084 - Thira rationalizes he could die anyway from N1, or we could lynch D3 then votes Orange
1087 - Zoran says tvk=maf clears Brian (not sure where he got that logic unless he was trying to setup brian D3 mislynch here)
1088 - agrees with thira about wording but tells him to vote the "confirmed scum"
1089 - zoran asks tvk for his defense
1092 - thira refers back to "bandaging" statement for tvk's viability uncertainty
1094 - zoran suggests tvk said he "might not live long anyway" as a defense against lynches, but this doesn't follow because tvk made that statement near beginning of D2
1099 - thira says "it's obvious (that I was 'tmi'ing' tvk) cuz there was nothing in my tvk walls"
1100 - john indicating tvk could die on his own
1101 - John wholeheartedly agrees with Zoran's 1094
1105 - Zweebs calls me out on my claim with statements I made earlier in the day
1106 - Zoran says it'll be "interesting to see" who thought tvk was maf target N1
1107 - Bray claims
1110 - John has strong negative reaction at Bray's claim
1113 - Zoran comments it's "funny af" that tvk is still building a bray case
1116 - bray just like "im about to die and if i die i lose this power"
1117 - Thira says this at me in response to saying "dont think tvk only lives through the day"--
Quote:

first off why would he mention me and N2, and 2nd off why the fuck would he think I would be the N2 target, at this point bray just claimed and sock had taken my power 40 seconds ago???!!? WHAT
1119 - thira tells bray not to give his N2 plans after he claimed??????
1122 - timur confused but trying to poke holes in my claim
1124 - Thira directly asks Zweebs and John to change their votes (off bray)
1125 - TVK reads:
>sg bray connected, bray scum, me scum, better abt orange, tyg town, john strongest™ town, zoran zweebs neutral
1127 - John complies w/ thira and unvotes, believes my claim wholeheartedly, but wants tvk to post as much as possible before eod cuz "early eod!" despite tvk only having 1 vote (me) at this point
1130 - Thira STILL thinks tvk will die on his own
1131 - John agrees w/ the "tvk only has 1 vote" thing and votes tvk
1132 - tvk defends by analyzing my D2, finding a lack of pushing tvk as a lynch candidate, comments 'would fenner be town?'
1134 - bray not gonna let his power go to waste in a mislynch
1135 - zweebellino still doubting my claim, asking tvk why I would do it under whatever alignment, unvotes, 'gotta thunk about it more'
1136 - zoran responds to john that we already have scum and should lynch
1137 - john thinks im neutral scanner
1138 - thira STILL thinks tvk will die on his own, "5% chance", if no death-by-injuries then d3 lynch
1139 - tvk comments it took me awhile to find evidence for a lynch
1140 - john tells thira to lynch confirmed scum
1141 - tvk "leone even made walls on other ppl"
1143 - zoran votes tvk
1144 - bray asks whether we voting tvk/orange/other
1145 - tvk doubts im 3rdparty
1148 - timur thinks im 3rdparty
1149 - tvk: bad timing for my play, also me/bray connected?
1150 - thinks im tryna save bray
1151 - zoran: "how do u fake resurrection claim?"
1154 - john: agrees with zoran, "can't fake resurrection, if dan dont return overnight brian=dead d3"
1155 - thira votes tvk "cuz I quoted my role pm"
1157 - tvk thinks bray=scum & i be saving him
1158 - timur: resurrection=softclaim but who'd fake it
1159 - thira: 'wat if bray=roleblocked?'
1160 - TVK claims, says im scum
1165 - TVK votes me
1166 - thira: TYG hasnt voted yet (wanna note here, TYG wasn't the only one not voting, and he was the only one thira called out, DESPITE tyg wasn't part of the discussion since my claim)
1167 - tyg: "dunno if should cast vote or too close to majority"
1168 - tvk: "fenner =/= town char."
1170 - bray votes TVK
1171 - John says this weird thing
Quote:

this reealllllyyy looks like a mislynch chain setup, it's the only thing that makes any sense given me=town
1172 - Thira unvotes????!?!??!?! wat
1173 - bray missed my claim
1175 - zoran says ppl should say who their votes would be for if they arent voting
1176 - timur: "leone's claim doesnt add up but it doesnt look maf" then votes tvk
1177 - tvk: ggs, leone's claim makes no sense
1180 - "if leone=maf we cant do anything about it cuz sock 'confirmed' leone made a real claim"
1181 - tvk: wasted day
1182 - john: "TVK if u flip town leone=dead D3"
1183 - zoran "tyg, third?"
1184 - tvk doubts fenner=townrole
1186 - Thira: "waiting for tyg" FOR???????
1189 - zoran tells thira to state his preference, thira says tvk in 1191 but no vote at the end
1190 - tyg: "id vote for tvk BUT tvk has good point abt fenner but nothing we can do" ???!??!???

So, we can infer:

- About my claim:

>John and Zoran bought my claim w/o question, shoved the "we have scum now lets lynch" narrative and john stated intent to witchhunt me d3 for if tvk townflipped
>Thira flip-flopped all over the fucking map for very tepid reasons then ended on a no-vote (fucking weird)
>TYG just looked flat-out confused, refused to vote
>Bray claimed w/o seeing my claim (?) to ave his own neck then decided to go after what he saw as confirmed scum
>Zwiebel and TVK were the ONLY ones to critically analyze it for flaws, and nobody listened to either of them/responded to their posts.

NOW for N2 actions resulting from this EOD:
>We can infer I wasn't maf's target for whatever reason, because I'm still fucking alive.
>We can infer bray was the MOST LIKELY maf target, due to his ridiculously high-power claim. We can also infer doc saw the risk as too large to not save him. HOWEVER, there are no "bandages" sentences by Sock this time... did the maf not actually go for anyone last night? And was doc on bray at all????? 

see now, that's what I dont get, there should be atleast injuries on someone if doc had to act, and I dont think Orange's dialogue sock made up counts as a maf attempt on his life.

WAIT WAIT WAIT WHAT THE FUCK JUST HAPPENED DID DAN JUST DIE AGAIN??!?!???!!??!??!?

Zwiebel wrote on 08/28/17 at 18:16:06:


1 person died Night 1 (Dan)
0 died night 2.
1 died Day 3.
we are on schedule with the appropriate 1 death per day

well just a quick note whoever the fuck just killed dan did so out of desperation because he was hot on their trail

I'll assume john or zoran did it unless part of the resurrection role is that it's temporary/???

DansGame wrote on 08/28/17 at 17:32:22:


I do not know if I was attacked last night or not but due to being mentioned in sock's N3 post I can say this.

Shock wrote on 08/28/17 at 13:22:12:


In Shock's post is says that I'm pale and appear as though I have seen Death. This must have meant that I was attacked, although I was not notified of this. One of my abilities is to be able to get attacked once without dying, hence why I'm pale. The terrible dream may well be the attack.

idk what this game is anymore

what the fuck is going on

Leone wrote on 08/28/17 at 18:46:12:


I would have to say so, I am immune to all night actions except for attacks, I can only be attacked once without dying.

B.Ray wrote on 08/28/17 at 18:51:57:


Now seemed to be the right time due to being mentioned in sock's N3 post as well as Dan saying it would be worth to claim. It's all to do with the timing.