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DansGame Ninja Offline I Love Mark 2.0! 3358 holabolas	Re: Forum-themed Mafia: Day 3 Reply #1200 - 08/28/17 at 13:39:59 No one died also?
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Sportsguy001 King Offline The Andy Roddick of SMK 7027 holabolas Princeton, NC Gender:	Re: Forum-themed Mafia: Day 3 Reply #1201 - 08/28/17 at 13:40:23 johnboy81918 wrote on 08/28/17 at 13:35:38: In addition to discussing the craziness of EoD2, what does everyone think happened N2? Mafia's target was protected. Leone's claim saved us from lynching b.ray and probably helped us win the game. Even if he is mafia.
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DansGame Ninja Offline I Love Mark 2.0! helped 3358 people	Re: Forum-themed Mafia: Day 3 Reply #1202 - 08/28/17 at 13:40:47 I will fill you guys in in a couple hours about what I think but Zoran and John are your team, maybe plus one.
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Re: Forum-themed Mafia: Day 3
Reply #1203 - 08/28/17 at 13:43:46

Sportsguy001 wrote on 08/28/17 at 13:40:23:

johnboy81918 wrote on 08/28/17 at 13:35:38:

In addition to discussing the craziness of EoD2, what does everyone think happened N2?

Mafia's target was protected.

Then why weren't we told that someone was attacked and healed?

Sportsguy001 wrote on 08/28/17 at 13:40:23:

Leone's claim saved us from lynching b.ray and probably helped us win the game. Even if he is mafia.

This I will actually agree with. Leone's claim helped town, ultimately. However, I don't think he's helping *you* win the game, sorry.

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Re: Forum-themed Mafia: Day 2
Reply #1204 - 08/28/17 at 13:46:50

johnboy81918 wrote on 08/27/17 at 13:55:58:

TvK wrote on 08/27/17 at 13:53:51:

One of John and Sportsguy is guaranteed to be town. It sucks that I was barely online during this day, but I guess it wouldn't have done me any good anyway with Leone's claim. Once again, this might confirm that I was the mafia's target this night. Best of luck to town.

If you end up flipping town, Leone will die D3, guaranteed. So even under the premise that Leone is fake-claiming, D3 is guaranteed to not be a mislynch.

Nice try buddy! Leone is 3rd party for sure, whether SK or jester. Not lynching him, we're lynching you today.

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Re: Forum-themed Mafia: Day 3
Reply #1205 - 08/28/17 at 13:47:14

johnboy81918 wrote on 08/28/17 at 13:43:46:

Sportsguy001 wrote on 08/28/17 at 13:40:23:

johnboy81918 wrote on 08/28/17 at 13:35:38:

In addition to discussing the craziness of EoD2, what does everyone think happened N2?

Mafia's target was protected.

Then why weren't we told that someone was attacked and healed?

To clarify, when D2 started, it was explicit that TvK had been attacked and healed. The story involving Orange doesn't seem to indicate he was actually *harmed*...just that he saw death in a dream or something.

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You could also do it just because you enjoyed hopping for no reason.

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Re: Forum-themed Mafia: Day 2
Reply #1206 - 08/28/17 at 13:51:19

DansGame wrote on 08/28/17 at 13:46:50:

johnboy81918 wrote on 08/27/17 at 13:55:58:

TvK wrote on 08/27/17 at 13:53:51:

One of John and Sportsguy is guaranteed to be town. It sucks that I was barely online during this day, but I guess it wouldn't have done me any good anyway with Leone's claim. Once again, this might confirm that I was the mafia's target this night. Best of luck to town.

If you end up flipping town, Leone will die D3, guaranteed. So even under the premise that Leone is fake-claiming, D3 is guaranteed to not be a mislynch.

Nice try buddy! Leone is 3rd party for sure, whether SK or jester. Not lynching him, we're lynching you today.

I admit I made that statement in haste, before considering that it's a very likely jester play after thinking about it afterwards. I don't want to lynch Leone today, for sure.

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You could also do it just because you enjoyed hopping for no reason.

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no control Legend Offline 6571 holabolas Croatia,Zagreb Gender:	Re: Forum-themed Mafia: Day 3 Reply #1207 - 08/28/17 at 13:52:34 DansGame wrote on 08/28/17 at 13:39:12: Alright guys. I'm a bit busy right now but... Zoran and John, get fucked. I know you guys are both mafia. We ARE LYNCHING JOHN today. Let's hear it....
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no control Legend Offline 6571 days karting Croatia,Zagreb Gender:	Re: Forum-themed Mafia: Day 3 Reply #1208 - 08/28/17 at 13:54:32 I would also like to hear Leone's explanation?
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DansGame Ninja Offline I Love Mark 2.0! ate 3358 donuts	Re: Forum-themed Mafia: Day 3 Reply #1209 - 08/28/17 at 13:54:58 When I get home, scum
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Re: Forum-themed Mafia: Day 3
Reply #1210 - 08/28/17 at 14:00:34

Ok, so before Dan gets home...

I think it is time to take a look at all people in the lower end of post count (Tyg, Sportsguy and Orange). I'm pretty confident there is at least 1 maf there.

Orange was a counter wagon to 3 townies on D1 and 2 townies on D2.

TvK wrote on 08/27/17 at 13:52:30:

Fine lynch me if you want, it at least will out Leone as scum. I am Yoshistar. I'm town. I get two names each night of which one is guaranteed to be town. I did not get notified that I was a miller, but I also didn't get notified that Leone visited me last night.

TvK wrote on 08/27/17 at 13:53:51:

One of John and Sportsguy is guaranteed to be town. It sucks that I was barely online during this day, but I guess it wouldn't have done me any good anyway with Leone's claim. Once again, this might confirm that I was the mafia's target this night. Best of luck to town.

Based on this and my previous thoughts on Sportsguy i think he is a good lynch. If he flips maf, we got a clear town.

Tyg has been following and hiding behind Leone for 2 days.

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no control Legend Offline 6571 days karting Croatia,Zagreb Gender:	Re: Forum-themed Mafia: Day 3 Reply #1211 - 08/28/17 at 14:02:32 I don't think we need to discuss what happened at night and give scum any ideas.
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no control Legend Offline 6571 sex records Croatia,Zagreb Gender:	Re: Forum-themed Mafia: Day 3 Reply #1212 - 08/28/17 at 14:03:37 @Orange please answer these: 977 Any thoughts on eod2? Give us your full reads at this point please.
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no control Legend Offline 6571 days karting Croatia,Zagreb Gender:	Re: Forum-themed Mafia: Day 3 Reply #1213 - 08/28/17 at 14:04:28 @Sportsguy please answer these: 996 Any thoughts on eod2? Give us your full reads at this point please.
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Re: Forum-themed Mafia: Day 3
Reply #1214 - 08/28/17 at 14:10:12

TYG

Summary of his reads until that point with opinions on everyone at that time (good post to look at him imo). 944

He asks Leone for what to do. On the other hand he said he would prefer to go for Orange over TvK. 1011

Wants to wait for Leone's opinion before he votes. 1030

Sporsguy if his biggest scum lean followd by brian. Orange seamed scummy, bat also sees him as possible town. 1055

His reads eod2 1067

Comes 5 minutes before eod, would have voted for TvK.

Any thoughts on eod2?

Give us your full reads at this point please.

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johnboy81918 King Offline 6972 days karting Atlanta, GA Gender:	Re: Forum-themed Mafia: Day 3 Reply #1215 - 08/28/17 at 14:18:48 Dan, it's clear you seem dead set on Zoran/me, but I would also ask you to analyze and think about Sportsguy and come to a conclusion on him (other than "must be town because John has been scumreading him" etc, a more independent investigation please).
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Thiradell Elite Offline mmmmk missed 6357 mts Denver Gender:	Re: Forum-themed Mafia: Day 3 Reply #1216 - 08/28/17 at 14:26:21 why is Dan so angry what is Leone if not scum I won't be around for a few hours, on lunch at work atm
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DansGame Ninja Offline I Love Mark 2.0! 3358 days karting	Re: Forum-themed Mafia: Day 3 Reply #1217 - 08/28/17 at 14:27:19 Alright, I just got home. Getting to work now. I'll start with John and maybe say some stuff about Zoran and others at some points. This might take awhile but we have a lot of time anyway.
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DansGame Ninja Offline I Love Mark 2.0! 3358 holabolas	Re: Forum-themed Mafia: Day 3 Reply #1218 - 08/28/17 at 14:27:43 Thiradell wrote on 08/28/17 at 14:26:21: why is Dan so angry what is Leone if not scum I won't be around for a few hours, on lunch at work atm Not angry. Itching to contribute because I've been sitting on this stuff for two days.
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Re: Forum-themed Mafia: Day 3
Reply #1219 - 08/28/17 at 14:29:30

Timur D1
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some reads in 463

Then he talks to PAF and Leone is his next posts and then he votes PAF 533

Thinks Dan thing with YS is strange 556

Then he goes on Paf and Dan together 567

Talk about a possibility Dan is a jester 570

His final vote is either Dan, Paf or Orange 621

Brian lynch is a lure which he repeats later many times 650

Timur D2

His reads start of D2, with Tvk as the biggest town read and Brian as maf, Leone neutral fraction. 738

Big analysis on TYG, i liked it. 811 and 812

Has that cahnged since Brian is town now? #813

Votes for Brian and in next few posts asks him questions. 852

Posted his thoughts on what happened N1. 862

Asks Leone some questions. 865

Think brian is likely maf. 890

Zwiebel wrote on 08/26/17 at 18:46:41:

If Brian is Town, then I would take back my Town lean on TvK, since my argument on him relies on the assumption that Brian is Maf. The other 2, I don't know in that case...but honestly, if we lynch Brian and he flips Town I think we're probably fucked anyway.

Why did you push for his vote for most of the day then? Ok he was your maf suspect, but weren't there other options since you thought the mistake was so costly?

Third is town lean

Updated list with his reads. 1021

Brings up roleclaiming. Orange was nowhere in sight at that point. 1032

More thoughts on people, still in favour of Brian lynch, Orange looks bad, small maf lean on TYG, strong town on TvK. 1063
Interesting theories about Leone, unvotes Brian. 1135

Pretty confident that Leone is 3rd party. 1148

Votes TvK in the end as #5.

Can you give us your thought process for eod 2?

Since you thought Leone was 3rd party, what was your other option other then TvK? Did you believe Leone he was a cop at any point?

What is your opinon on everyone now?

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no control Legend Offline drank 6571 beers Croatia,Zagreb Gender:	Re: Forum-themed Mafia: Day 3 Reply #1220 - 08/28/17 at 14:33:24 Thiradell wrote on 08/28/17 at 14:26:21: why is Dan so angry what is Leone if not scum I won't be around for a few hours, on lunch at work atm I think Leone need to get lynched today ot something close to this idea.
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Re: Forum-themed Mafia: Day 3
Reply #1221 - 08/28/17 at 14:36:32

Thiradell wrote on 08/28/17 at 14:26:21:

what is Leone if not scum

Leone could still very easily be neutral faction:
johnboy81918 wrote on 08/28/17 at 13:30:18:

Leone's claim:
Now that it's clear he was bullshitting, can we even figure out WHY?! There is certainly the obvious solution - he is scum and framing town!Brian by making it appear as if he is saving him? Is this worth sacrificing Leone himself though? He was a townread for nearly everyone, it seems unnecessary to do this. This actually makes me wonder further (and I feel like I'm wandering into confirmation bias territory at this point): is this a play a jester-type character would make, knowing that it makes him a major target for the next day?

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You could also do it just because you enjoyed hopping for no reason.

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Thiradell Elite Offline mmmmk 6357 days karting Denver Gender:	Re: Forum-themed Mafia: Day 3 Reply #1222 - 08/28/17 at 14:41:46 Sure, jester's about it. I don't have a better theory though Also since Brian had a real res power maybe there are three mafia Back to work for me
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no control Legend Offline 6571 sex records Croatia,Zagreb Gender:	Re: Forum-themed Mafia: Day 3 Reply #1223 - 08/28/17 at 14:42:43 Thiradell wrote on 08/28/17 at 14:41:46: Sure, jester's about it. I don't have a better theory though Also since Brian had a real res power maybe there are three mafia Back to work for me Agreed
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Re: Forum-themed Mafia: Day 3
Reply #1224 - 08/28/17 at 14:51:51

no control wrote on 08/28/17 at 14:42:43:

Thiradell wrote on 08/28/17 at 14:41:46:

Sure, jester's about it. I don't have a better theory though

Also since Brian had a real res power maybe there are three mafia

Back to work for me

Agreed

What are you agreeing with? Leone is jester? Possibly a 3 member maf team? You're going back to work? All of the above?

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