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Re: Forum-themed Mafia: Day 2
Reply #1076 - 08/27/17 at 13:03:02

TvK wrote on 08/27/17 at 12:54:58:

I think TYG and I just made a bad call. It makes so little sense for maf to build the entire B.Ray wagon only to jump away at the very last moment. If B.Ray is mafia, why would I have pushed so hard for my buddy to be lynched instead of just staying on PAF where I was the entire day. And if B.Ray is town, then why would I have switched to PAF? There was going to be a townie lynched anyway.

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B.Ray wrote on 08/26/17 at 07:07:18:

John i get how it makes me look suspicious but doesn't it also put them in a small spotlight. Do you think if i get lynched and show town that 1 of them is likely Maf? Would both of them being Maf be bad gameplay?

Yes, I think those 2 votes are suspicious regardless of your alignment. If you are scum, then those votes saved scum. If you are town, then those votes made you *look* like scum for the exact reasoning from the previous sentence. I do find it unlikely that they are BOTH scum, if only because they could have coordinated so as to not make BOTH of them look bad...since that coordination doesn't seem to have happened, it doesn't seem like a great scum *team* to look into, for now.

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Reply #1077 - 08/27/17 at 13:03:35

okay you know what fuck it and fuck you guys and also lets make it interesting babyyyyyyyyy

im claiming bcuz ive had enough of this bullshit, I was waiting cuz I was hoping to gather more info but we're going down a bad path atm and this info will help

I'm Terrence Fenner. I'm basically cop. I get to "choose either a light blindfold or a dark blindfold at night," and hit someone over the head with my ironing board to see who they really are. The light blindfold lets me see whether someone is town or not-town. The dark blindfold tells me their full alignment but also lets them know I visited them.

I didn't have a n0 peek due to the game size. "apparently my blindfolds were in the wash."
TVK was my N1 visit, dark blindfold. He's mafia.

I picked TVK cuz nobody really had a strong read on him other than "oh yeah townie, cuz he's been doing alot".

Lynch away muthafuckas.

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Reply #1078 - 08/27/17 at 13:03:50

TvK wrote on 08/27/17 at 12:54:58:

As for nightkills, I would not be surprised if Dan was killed by a town vig. I think it's more likely that Dan was killed by town than that a town member attempted to kill me. Mafia killing might mean that they are trying to make B.Ray look bad, but I think they tried to get rid of someone who is strong at building wagons.

Why do you think it was town vig and not a neutral role? What do you think of a possibility that PAF made the shoot?

Can you give us your reads?

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Reply #1079 - 08/27/17 at 13:04:10

Leone wrote on 08/26/17 at 11:53:06:

TvK wrote on 08/25/17 at 14:31:56:

@John: I really didn't like the way day 1 ended. We had so much time to get anywhere near a majority during the day, but we never even got close

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yet again hints that getting a big wagon is a good thing to do, but what if said wagon was on town? maf would wanna witch-hunt and get a wagon going early to squelch discussion of other people.

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I was thrown off by Leone just randomly swapping his vote around and encouraging people to vote Dan to get a three-way tie and let RNG decide the lynch.

Why? Did you expect me to fall in line and vote bray??

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Both Timur and TYG were contemplating changing their vote to Dan. I did NOT want Dan to get lynched. I made my choice between PAF and Dan at that point.

BULLSHIT. Dan had 2 votes on him when you went for paf, the choice was paf or bray.

also where did timur contemplate changing his vote???? he said dan and paf both look scummy but at no point did he say he'd switch his vote. (srsly, where would timur have contemplated changing his vote? only place besides here would be a maf chat... Shocked

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If that big wagon was town, then the same amount of townies would have died with the lynch and we would have had a big deal of information to analyse. That's a big part of how I hunt scum.

I was thrown off because you were throwing your vote around, declaring that a lynch decided by RNG was the best thing.

Okay, I was wrong at the end of the day. It was a mess in general, and for the heck of it either Thiradell or Orange could have showed up and turned things around. That's why I said I don't like the way the day ended. And that's what caused me to make a mistake.

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Reply #1080 - 08/27/17 at 13:05:11

Leone wrote on 08/27/17 at 13:03:35:

okay you know what fuck it and fuck you guys and also lets make it interesting babyyyyyyyyy

im claiming bcuz ive had enough of this bullshit, I was waiting cuz I was hoping to gather more info but we're going down a bad path atm and this info will help

I'm Terrence Fenner. I'm basically cop. I get to "choose either a light blindfold or a dark blindfold at night," and hit someone over the head with my ironing board to see who they really are. The light blindfold lets me see whether someone is town or not-town. The dark blindfold tells me their full alignment but also lets them know I visited them.

I didn't have a n0 peek due to the game size. "apparently my blindfolds were in the wash."
TVK was my N1 visit, dark blindfold. He's mafia.

I picked TVK cuz nobody really had a strong read on him other than "oh yeah townie, cuz he's been doing alot".

Lynch away muthafuckas.

LMAO LEONE

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Reply #1082 - 08/27/17 at 13:06:22

Leone wrote on 08/27/17 at 13:03:35:

okay you know what fuck it and fuck you guys and also lets make it interesting babyyyyyyyyy

im claiming bcuz ive had enough of this bullshit, I was waiting cuz I was hoping to gather more info but we're going down a bad path atm and this info will help

I'm Terrence Fenner. I'm basically cop. I get to "choose either a light blindfold or a dark blindfold at night," and hit someone over the head with my ironing board to see who they really are. The light blindfold lets me see whether someone is town or not-town. The dark blindfold tells me their full alignment but also lets them know I visited them.

I didn't have a n0 peek due to the game size. "apparently my blindfolds were in the wash."
TVK was my N1 visit, dark blindfold. He's mafia.

I picked TVK cuz nobody really had a strong read on him other than "oh yeah townie, cuz he's been doing alot".

Lynch away muthafuckas.

figured bro, guess you figured you'd die night 2? not sure how we're going "down a bad path atm," we could've come back to TvK eventually.

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Reply #1083 - 08/27/17 at 13:06:57

johnboy81918 wrote on 08/27/17 at 13:05:11:

Leone wrote on 08/27/17 at 13:03:35:

okay you know what fuck it and fuck you guys and also lets make it interesting babyyyyyyyyy

im claiming bcuz ive had enough of this bullshit, I was waiting cuz I was hoping to gather more info but we're going down a bad path atm and this info will help

I'm Terrence Fenner. I'm basically cop. I get to "choose either a light blindfold or a dark blindfold at night," and hit someone over the head with my ironing board to see who they really are. The light blindfold lets me see whether someone is town or not-town. The dark blindfold tells me their full alignment but also lets them know I visited them.

I didn't have a n0 peek due to the game size. "apparently my blindfolds were in the wash."
TVK was my N1 visit, dark blindfold. He's mafia.

I picked TVK cuz nobody really had a strong read on him other than "oh yeah townie, cuz he's been doing alot".

Lynch away muthafuckas.

LMAO LEONE

In addition to the above reaction...

I also want to take note of what everyone's read of TvK was *before* you posted that. I'll try to be quick in doing so...

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Reply #1085 - 08/27/17 at 13:07:43

Leone wrote on 08/27/17 at 12:54:11:

Zwiebel wrote on 08/27/17 at 12:48:15:

Leone, you yourself said that if I'm Town, then you think TvK is Town.

I know I'm town, and I also think TvK is Town. That only makes my Town lean on TvK stronger...

what the fuckk?????!! pooint to a place on d2 where i sais i think you/tvk are town, and also you dodged the question. ANSWER MY QUESTION I POSED IN MY LAST POST TO YOU ABOUT TVK, HIS TRENDS, AND YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SHY AWAY FROM HIM.

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I don't say brian looks worse than Orange, I think they look equally bad. I just think a Brian lynch gives us more info than an Orange lynch.

YOU DODGED MY QUESTION AGAIN SIR, WHAT INFORMATION WOULOD EACH LYNCH PROVIDE IN YOUR OPINION???!?!?

First thing, I already answered...literally using your own post u mention. I don't think I need to give more points on why I think TvK is Town, I layed everything down that leads me to that conclusion.

I think a Brian lynch gives us a lot of info on TvK and John, if he flips Maf they're basically cleared Town in my eyes.

With the chances of Brian being Mag being high and potentially clearing 2 people, I think that's far more than what we could possibly get from an Orange lynch.

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You should all listen to Timur. He's an onion.

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Reply #1088 - 08/27/17 at 13:10:10

Thiradell wrote on 08/27/17 at 13:07:39:

also he might be dead anyway based on night 1 actions? if not we could lynch him day 3?

[vote]Orange[/vote]

That's what I said to Leone earlier - if his claim is true, I understand why he wants this lynch right now, but it's still something to think about? That being said, if we believe Leone, then we have confirmed scum and there is no sensible option other than lynching it.

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Reply #1090 - 08/27/17 at 13:11:29

johnboy81918 wrote on 08/27/17 at 13:10:10:

Thiradell wrote on 08/27/17 at 13:07:39:

also he might be dead anyway based on night 1 actions? if not we could lynch him day 3?

[vote]Orange[/vote]

That's what I said to Leone earlier - if his claim is true, I understand why he wants this lynch right now, but it's still something to think about? That being said, if we believe Leone, then we have confirmed scum and there is no sensible option other than lynching it.

but if tvk only gets to live through today then wouldnt the lynch be gratuitous???

ples link me where you have evidence of how tvk's stabbing went down

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Reply #1091 - 08/27/17 at 13:11:45

johnboy81918 wrote on 08/26/17 at 18:29:46:

johnboy81918 wrote on 08/26/17 at 17:55:57:

TvK:

Claims EoD1 vote was to save Dan.
TvK wrote on 08/25/17 at 14:31:56:

@John: I really didn't like the way day 1 ended. We had so much time to get anywhere near a majority during the day, but we never even got close. I was thrown off by Leone just randomly swapping his vote around and encouraging people to vote Dan to get a three-way tie and let RNG decide the lynch. Both Timur and TYG were contemplating changing their vote to Dan. I did NOT want Dan to get lynched. I made my choice between PAF and Dan at that point.

I bring up that his decision had nothing to do with Dan and everything to with choosing between PAF/Brian.
He agrees.
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TvK wrote on 08/25/17 at 14:31:56:

@John: I really didn't like the way day 1 ended. We had so much time to get anywhere near a majority during the day, but we never even got close. I was thrown off by Leone just randomly swapping his vote around and encouraging people to vote Dan to get a three-way tie and let RNG decide the lynch. Both Timur and TYG were contemplating changing their vote to Dan. I did NOT want Dan to get lynched. I made my choice between PAF and Dan at that point.

There was no way to get a 3 way tie unless Orange and Third showed up, unless it would somehow go to 3-3-3 which would have required 2 people to vote for someone other than the 3 wagons. So you still had a choice between PAF and Brian, as far as I'm concerned...

Sure, now that I've looked at it I also realized that the chance was extremely small. But in the confusion I made a decision and it turned out to be the wrong one.

No input on N1, other than being thankful for being saved. TvK, I know you have the most biased N1 perspective, but I'd still like to know what your thoughts are.

Also, I failed to realize that TvK didn't address the others' EoD1 votes. TvK, how did Sportsguy and Lewis's EoD1 votes influence your reads of them? I suppose you could also say how your EoD1 vote influenced your read of yourself, if you wish Tongue

Looking back at it, Sportsguy's vote was the worst one. If he is mafia, he just has the choice wide open to vote any town member because he never gave us any clue as to who he was scumreading. Combined with the fact that has a very weak reasoning to keep reminding us that he thinks B.Ray is town, Sportsuy is dropping fast on my readlist.

As I said before, I think TYG made a bad call just as I did. It would be very strange for him to jump away from his scumbuddy onto someone who wasn't going to be lynched. There's no way TYG could have tried to save B.Ray with a vote on Dan.

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Reply #1092 - 08/27/17 at 13:12:19

Leone wrote on 08/27/17 at 13:11:29:

johnboy81918 wrote on 08/27/17 at 13:10:10:

Thiradell wrote on 08/27/17 at 13:07:39:

also he might be dead anyway based on night 1 actions? if not we could lynch him day 3?

[vote]Orange[/vote]

That's what I said to Leone earlier - if his claim is true, I understand why he wants this lynch right now, but it's still something to think about? That being said, if we believe Leone, then we have confirmed scum and there is no sensible option other than lynching it.

but if tvk only gets to live through today then wouldnt the lynch be gratuitous???

ples link me where you have evidence of how tvk's stabbing went down

just in the night 1 summary. It says someone made a mess of bandaging his wounds. Never seen flavor like that before so I don't know if it means anything

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no control Legend Offline drank 6571 beers Croatia,Zagreb Gender:	Re: Forum-themed Mafia: Day 2 Reply #1094 - 08/27/17 at 13:13:18 Leone wrote on 08/27/17 at 13:11:29: but if tvk only gets to live through today then wouldnt the lynch be gratuitous??? You have to remember that this was TvK's idea, so why would we believe him?
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Reply #1095 - 08/27/17 at 13:13:20

Thiradell wrote on 08/27/17 at 13:12:19:

Leone wrote on 08/27/17 at 13:11:29:

johnboy81918 wrote on 08/27/17 at 13:10:10:

Thiradell wrote on 08/27/17 at 13:07:39:

also he might be dead anyway based on night 1 actions? if not we could lynch him day 3?

[vote]Orange[/vote]

That's what I said to Leone earlier - if his claim is true, I understand why he wants this lynch right now, but it's still something to think about? That being said, if we believe Leone, then we have confirmed scum and there is no sensible option other than lynching it.

but if tvk only gets to live through today then wouldnt the lynch be gratuitous???

ples link me where you have evidence of how tvk's stabbing went down

just in the night 1 summary. It says someone made a mess of bandaging his wounds. Never seen flavor like that before so I don't know if it means anything

I honestly dont think it does

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Reply #1099 - 08/27/17 at 13:14:15

Leone wrote on 08/27/17 at 13:12:39:

my walls on tvk were to save me the trouble of claiming BUT nobody took them seriously enough to change their vote

also now zweebs looks bad too

yes and you repeatedly saying there were tons of great points on TvK in your walls when there in fact weren't, all in all it was pretty obvious

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