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Re: Forum-themed Mafia: Day 1
Reply #100 - 08/22/17 at 18:03:15
 
DansGame wrote on 08/22/17 at 17:59:37:
I would still bet my life that Leone is Yoshistar.  He threw soooooo much YS fluff into his posts.

You may be right, nobody is denying the possibility. His posts annoy me to the point of wanting to lynch him, but the lure is so strong I can't help but feel that it's bait.
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Reply #101 - 08/22/17 at 18:04:54
 
TvK wrote on 08/22/17 at 17:44:55:
DansGame wrote on 08/22/17 at 17:29:59:
What about his vote on PAF do you think doesn't indicate a jester-type of role?


His logic does seem to come from a town point of view so far. Nothing so far in his posts has come across as jester-like so far.


You specifically said in post 86 that "his vote on PAF is not something I would expect from a jester-type of role."  I know the discussion has moved since then, but at the time what did you mean by that?  Did you think that pushing onto PAF was towny and not a play someone would make who was themselves trying to get lynched?
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Reply #102 - 08/22/17 at 18:05:40
 
k now to continue!!!!!!1111

#62 is a useless mess lol, looks scummy to try and read that much into one sentence near the beginning of the game, unless clueless town????  Shocked (ooh, I agreed with what dan said back in #63, that clearly means something!!)

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I feel like Leone didn't want to just out that he was Yoshistar yet but it's really obvious that he is Yoshistar considering he hasn't ended a single sentence with a solitary period plus he threw in "scumhunters unite" and used a tm (I don't know how to make that symbol) in one of his posts


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Leone is Yoshistar, there is so much evidence to support that he is.  His posts unfortunately are extremely annoying to read because of the punctuation and some of the dumb stuff in them.  Whether his role PM forces him to post that way or whether he just chose to post that way because he was Yoshistar, it's really damn obvious.

Leone can go ahead and claim that he's yoshistar becuase it's obvious it is.  If he doesn't want to do that then he needs to explain why he's posting the way he is or stop posting in that annoying way because otherwise I'm lynching the fuck out of him.


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Actually that's a really good point that I even brought up before, in my opinion Yoshistar is the most likely angel or jester role that I can think of if there's one in the game.


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What about his vote on PAF do you think doesn't indicate a jester-type of role?


I LOVE how Dan seems fixated on who he thinks my CHARACTER is, and not on what the CONTENT of my posts happens to be, which, in some places, throws Dan's narrative-shoving ass under the bus.  Shocked (RE: "wouldn't Dan post his character-reads in public to try and make himself look inno then point to that and try to drive the narrative home??!?!??!?!!")

@Active ppl, thoughts on this type of tunneling????????

also Sock just said maf know the names of townie roles, I thought role names were a double-blind thing up to this point, this makes Dan look especially bad, @Active ppl thoughts on this too???? Dan is the only one to bring up a specific name (Yoshistar, of all ppl) then try to match someone (me) to that name, DESPITE the fact that Yoshistar isn't a schizophrenic lunatic son of a bitch with 22 personalities and a crack addiction!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! just one... more... line......

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Re: Forum-themed Mafia: Day 1
Reply #103 - 08/22/17 at 18:06:29
 
johnboy81918 wrote on 08/22/17 at 18:03:15:
DansGame wrote on 08/22/17 at 17:59:37:
I would still bet my life that Leone is Yoshistar.  He threw soooooo much YS fluff into his posts.

You may be right, nobody is denying the possibility. His posts annoy me to the point of wanting to lynch him, but the lure is so strong I can't help but feel that it's bait.


I think he's 100% Yoshistar and like 50ish% a jester or angel
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Reply #104 - 08/22/17 at 18:10:39
 
Leone wrote on 08/22/17 at 18:05:40:
k now to continue!!!!!!1111

#62 is a useless mess lol, looks scummy to try and read that much into one sentence near the beginning of the game, unless clueless town????  Shocked (ooh, I agreed with what dan said back in #63, that clearly means something!!)

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I feel like Leone didn't want to just out that he was Yoshistar yet but it's really obvious that he is Yoshistar considering he hasn't ended a single sentence with a solitary period plus he threw in "scumhunters unite" and used a tm (I don't know how to make that symbol) in one of his posts


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Leone is Yoshistar, there is so much evidence to support that he is.  His posts unfortunately are extremely annoying to read because of the punctuation and some of the dumb stuff in them.  Whether his role PM forces him to post that way or whether he just chose to post that way because he was Yoshistar, it's really damn obvious.

Leone can go ahead and claim that he's yoshistar becuase it's obvious it is.  If he doesn't want to do that then he needs to explain why he's posting the way he is or stop posting in that annoying way because otherwise I'm lynching the fuck out of him.


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Actually that's a really good point that I even brought up before, in my opinion Yoshistar is the most likely angel or jester role that I can think of if there's one in the game.


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What about his vote on PAF do you think doesn't indicate a jester-type of role?


I LOVE how Dan seems fixated on who he thinks my CHARACTER is, and not on what the CONTENT of my posts happens to be, which, in some places, throws Dan's narrative-shoving ass under the bus.  Shocked (RE: "wouldn't Dan post his character-reads in public to try and make himself look inno then point to that and try to drive the narrative home??!?!??!?!!")

@Active ppl, thoughts on this type of tunneling????????

also Sock just said maf know the names of townie roles, I thought role names were a double-blind thing up to this point, this makes Dan look especially bad, @Active ppl thoughts on this too???? Dan is the only one to bring up a specific name (Yoshistar, of all ppl) then try to match someone (me) to that name, DESPITE the fact that Yoshistar isn't a schizophrenic lunatic son of a bitch with 22 personalities and a crack addiction!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! just one... more... line......

gimme dat FAT-A$$ RAIL OF WHITE LIgHJTNING SON, IM ABOUT TO GO ONA POST STORM


Trying to figure out things about the game is always helpful, most of the shit that is said on D1 is normally useless and therefore I feel that trying to solve anything about the game is helpful.  Whether or not I'm a mafia member I think I pointed out more than enough reasons why I would think you were Yoshistar regardless.  And if you want to say that you're not Yoshistar and that he doesn't have "22 personalities" then why don't you say who you actually are, or if you don't think that would be helpful for town, clue us into who these other personalities are?
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Re: Forum-themed Mafia: Day 1
Reply #105 - 08/22/17 at 18:13:23
 
DansGame wrote on 08/22/17 at 18:04:54:
TvK wrote on 08/22/17 at 17:44:55:
DansGame wrote on 08/22/17 at 17:29:59:
What about his vote on PAF do you think doesn't indicate a jester-type of role?


His logic does seem to come from a town point of view so far. Nothing so far in his posts has come across as jester-like so far.


You specifically said in post 86 that "his vote on PAF is not something I would expect from a jester-type of role."  I know the discussion has moved since then, but at the time what did you mean by that?  Did you think that pushing onto PAF was towny and not a play someone would make who was themselves trying to get lynched?


Yes, even though I didn't agree with his vote on PAF, the logic behind it seemed townish to me.
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Re: Forum-themed Mafia: Day 1
Reply #106 - 08/22/17 at 18:18:33
 
Alright guys, I'll still be around for a couple of hours but I have to work on a marching band arrangement so I probably won't post too much the rest of the night.
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Re: Forum-themed Mafia: Day 1
Reply #107 - 08/22/17 at 18:20:50
 
Leone wrote on 08/22/17 at 17:38:11:
Zoran, John, etc, other active ppl, TVK, any thoughts on this too? (On the thing about Dan posting his rolehunter ideas to look inno, I mean)



I liked how Dan started role hunting, gave us some new info. At this point it is a bit weird, this obsession with you being YS 100%. I think he might be wrong about this.
Let's say Leone is Yoshistar. Why would he hint that as either mafia or jester? Further more, if he is town, why would he deny he is YS if he hinted it in the 1st place? It just doesn't add up.
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Reply #108 - 08/22/17 at 18:21:51
 
Leone wrote on 08/22/17 at 18:05:40:
#62 is a useless mess lol, looks scummy to try and read that much into one sentence near the beginning of the game, unless clueless town????  Shocked (ooh, I agreed with what dan said back in #63, that clearly means something!!)


Do you think that scum would go out of their way to try and start something based off a single line said on the first page of the thread? And especially someone who is not experienced playing mafia on this site?

Leone wrote on 08/22/17 at 18:05:40:
I LOVE how Dan seems fixated on who he thinks my CHARACTER is, and not on what the CONTENT of my posts happens to be, which, in some places, throws Dan's narrative-shoving ass under the bus.  Shocked (RE: "wouldn't Dan post his character-reads in public to try and make himself look inno then point to that and try to drive the narrative home??!?!??!?!!")

@Active ppl, thoughts on this type of tunneling????????


I don't like the entire guessing of who is which character because it doesn't get us any closer to lynching scum at the end of this day. Although you must admit that it's exactly your current style of posting that has sparked this entire discussion. And speaking of your style, I still can't get over the fact that your first post seemed like a normal Leone-post and you only started to get into character after that first post.
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Reply #109 - 08/22/17 at 18:23:47
 
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This may mean that TYG is PM'ing another mafia but forgetting to post on this thread to cloak that evidence. If TYG doesn't post on this or any other thread today then I'll raise my suspicions.


I like how Orange wagoned on my totally-not-bait suggestion regarding YS's inactivity  Shocked Shocked

this and #62 make this man look bad!!!

k so

if maf is mostly stupid maf then there'd be no coaching to keep him away from these kinds of posts

ofc then if maf is really smart then they'd use reverse-reverse psychology to make orange look inno by making him look like stupid maf and, by extension of the logic that maf would be coached, then make him look like stupid town

there's no telling how many steps ahead of us maf are, we gotta be careful gentlemen!!!!!!!!!!1111\

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I don't think this means anything - metagaming isn't part of this game. Random speculation like this is counterproductive imo - better to look at the content that's *in* the game rather than the things that *aren't*.


this looks townie cuz he's driving for substance analysis over character speculation

also whatever you've been saying on page 5 I see ppl arguing over me ILL GET THERE JST HOLD ON, ik you all love me, just be patient good sirs!1!1  Kiss Kiss

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Whatever the real reasons are behind it, I don't think it's good for someone to be online at some point on D1, then go offline without having made a post yet.


given what I said about Dan it logically follows he'd jump on the TYG comment I made

k down to my text wall at #90,

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Re: Forum-themed Mafia: Day 1
Reply #110 - 08/22/17 at 18:23:55
 
TvK wrote on 08/22/17 at 18:21:51:
Do you think that scum would go out of their way to try and start something based off a single line said on the first page of the thread? And especially someone who is not experienced playing mafia on this site?

Yes (I know that is not directed at me but I do feel like it's very scummy)
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Reply #111 - 08/22/17 at 18:24:44
 
Leone, I already mentioned earlier that we should be looking into your content (see my post #75). Personally, I agree (given that I posted it) - but I'm okay with Dan's attempt to get info in whatever way he thinks is best...the more info we fish out, the better.

Dan, I still don't think Leone has a YS role - aside from using the words "scumhunters" and "unite" in the same sentence, everything else points otherwise, unless I missed something else telling?
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Reply #112 - 08/22/17 at 18:31:28
 
Leone wrote on 08/22/17 at 18:23:47:
I like how Orange wagoned on my totally-not-bait suggestion regarding YS's inactivity  Shocked Shocked


I really hope you typo'd here and you're not intentionally feeding the "let's not stop discussing who YS is" flame.
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Reply #113 - 08/22/17 at 18:37:54
 
johnboy81918 wrote on 08/22/17 at 18:24:44:
Leone, I already mentioned earlier that we should be looking into your content (see my post #75). Personally, I agree (given that I posted it) - but I'm okay with Dan's attempt to get info in whatever way he thinks is best...the more info we fish out, the better.

Dan, I still don't think Leone has a YS role - aside from using the words "scumhunters" and "unite" in the same sentence, everything else points otherwise, unless I missed something else telling?


1. scumhunters comment
2. lots of exclamation points, ellipses, question marks, and lack of singular periods
3. the use of "tm" in his posts (yoshistar's forum name is literally yoshistartm) (I don't know how to do super scripts but that is supposed to be a tm superscript)
4. lots of fluff posting, when has leone ever come out and posted that much ever in a game like this
5. very confusing posts

All 5 of these point to yoshistar.  At this point we can deduce that he isn't restricted from ending his sentences with one period, but I think there's just overwhelming evidence that he wanted to show he was yoshistar in the beginning of the day, and might now be backing away from it for some reason given the discussion it has caused (that might especially be the case if he was a jester or angel).  I can understand why people might not be sure about this especially the way he has changed his play since I called him out, but I feel like my gut is right and I'm sticking to it.  I agree with TvK that this doesn't get us closer to lynching scum, my vote is on Orange who I feel very likely could be mafia for that awful opening post.
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Reply #114 - 08/22/17 at 18:49:55
 
DansGame wrote on 08/22/17 at 18:37:54:
johnboy81918 wrote on 08/22/17 at 18:24:44:
Leone, I already mentioned earlier that we should be looking into your content (see my post #75). Personally, I agree (given that I posted it) - but I'm okay with Dan's attempt to get info in whatever way he thinks is best...the more info we fish out, the better.

Dan, I still don't think Leone has a YS role - aside from using the words "scumhunters" and "unite" in the same sentence, everything else points otherwise, unless I missed something else telling?


1. scumhunters comment
2. lots of exclamation points, ellipses, question marks, and lack of singular periods
3. the use of "tm" in his posts (yoshistar's forum name is literally yoshistartm) (I don't know how to do super scripts but that is supposed to be a tm superscript)
4. lots of fluff posting, when has leone ever come out and posted that much ever in a game like this
5. very confusing posts

All 5 of these point to yoshistar.  At this point we can deduce that he isn't restricted from ending his sentences with one period, but I think there's just overwhelming evidence that he wanted to show he was yoshistar in the beginning of the day, and might now be backing away from it for some reason given the discussion it has caused (that might especially be the case if he was a jester or angel).  I can understand why people might not be sure about this especially the way he has changed his play since I called him out, but I feel like my gut is right and I'm sticking to it.  I agree with TvK that this doesn't get us closer to lynching scum, my vote is on Orange who I feel very likely could be mafia for that awful opening post.

Leone's posting style honestly has me thinking of Pobre more than Yoshistar - that's my gut feeling (and has been almost from the start). As before, that still means nothing as to his alignment (to say nothing of the fact that we don't have any idea what roles are even in this game). I would still rather avoid lynching him today, just in case this whole thing has been bait, but if it continues then I'd like to get rid of him sooner instead of later lol.
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Reply #115 - 08/22/17 at 18:50:52
 
Lmao, Leone's joining post in the sign up thread for this game was literally "in if you'll tolerate a low-activity kind of playstyle".  One might have assumed that we were headed for a normal Leone type of game where he does literally nothing.  His posting this game so far has been so absurdly contrary to that that it's obvious that there's some kind of reason for it that is related to his role and alignment.  The most likely reason I can come up with is that his role and alignment are such where he feels he can get away with posting huge amounts of nonsense and where he can feel comfortable with causing chaos.  The more I think about it the more I feel like he's exactly Yoshistar and a jester/angel.
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Reply #116 - 08/22/17 at 18:51:32
 
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I don't know if it's your posting style that's throwing me off, but in the post before this one it seemed to me like your scumread on PAF was getting stronger.


yeah

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Why did you vote him in the first place if you had these points in the back of your mind from the start? What was the purpose of the vote?


For pressure, kind sir <3  Wink

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If you wanted pressure on him, how would you have been able to tell the difference between his usual cluelessness and actual crumbling?


Well if the whole coaching-theory-logic-thing holds then paf would LIKELY (important word, I'm working off probabilities here) either improve his content (or appearance thereof) or slip, but in either case probably not remain 'clueless'. (<<<---- Look Dan, a period!!!!!!?!?!11 Shocked Shocked Shocked )

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Can you elaborate on PAF's "trigger happy votes/unvotes"?


He unvoted after I pressurized him, this is what imo matters!!!  Sad Seems a bit eager to take suggestions from others, with first the meme-vote on you then the unvote after I grilled him!!!!! You or someone else mentioned maf would probably want to bandwagon early and get a free ride to EOD!!!!1

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if nothing stood out as scummy, why did you feel the need to address it? And why did you even decide to vote him?


Kind sir, my friend, you must understand, I put pressure on Mr PAF precisely BECAUSE I can't get a solid read on him yet!!!!

best way I can contribute is pressurize who I can with my vote then dissect their reaction content!

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Do you actually think that PAF's and Yoshistar's playstyles are in any way similar?


Naaaaaa, but that's not what's important, what IS important is how useful either of them would be to maf, this is what I was commenting on

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Or is this just your way of saying that we should be looking for mafia among the low posters? If so, that's something that I said when I posted a lot and was mafia. Or does this mean that if we find an inexperienced mafia member we have to put as much pressure on him as possible because he can accidentily blur out something that might implicate his buddies?


YOU GOOD SIR, GOT IT, ALLLLL OF THE ABOVE!!!!!! There's no false dichotomy here, we can pressurize both low-posters AND scummy newbies! In fact we should pressurize everyone!!!1~ IT'S THE ONLY WAY WE'LL GET THE FULL PICTURE!!!!!!1111 Cheesy

endimng this post, I'm down to my wall at #102.

TO BE CONTINUED again!!!!!!!
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Reply #117 - 08/22/17 at 18:53:48
 
Leone wrote on 08/22/17 at 15:07:11:
Oh also hi TYG! I see you on but not posting yet, please do join this lovely party we're having! My super-duper radar of truthiness spots online-but-not-posting folk, check it out on the Mario Kart MB™'s front page!


"Mario Kart MB™'s"

Where does he get that in his head if not from having Yoshistar™ in his head?  BTW, he said that before I guessed that he was YS, I believe YS had not been mentioned in this thread once before that.
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Reply #118 - 08/22/17 at 18:57:07
 
Alright, I promise that this is the last thing I'll say on the subject for now, because I think I have said enough about it and I know we have other things to discuss, but I feel like I have laid out a lot of really good evidence for Leone being YS and I now feel that it's greater than 50% that he's an angel or jester.  I feel comfortable now in saying that I probably would never lynch Leone unless for some reason he was confirmed to be mafia or if I was in a final 3 with him where I'd have to reconsider.
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Reply #119 - 08/22/17 at 19:13:56
 
I know it's still early in D1, but it's odd that we're well past rvs and Third still has 2 votes on him despite not having made an appearance yet. One of those is TvK's from rvs, and the other is Sportsguy's (Tyler I think?) from his one (content-less) post.

TvK, why did you choose Third for your rvs vote, was it truly random or did you at least have a joke reason? Others, any thoughts on these 2 votes?
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Reply #120 - 08/22/17 at 19:15:26
 
I feel like they're just trying to feel out a new player that they haven't played with.  Sportsguy even said as much in his post, that he hasn't played with most of the people in this game.
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Reply #121 - 08/22/17 at 19:26:10
 
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I think he's 100% Yoshistar and like 50ish% a jester or angel


WHY IS THIS MAN FIXATED ON THE EXISTENCE OF A "YOSHISTAR" CHARACTER???? MUCH LESS THAT IT'S MY IDENTITY!!! I already pointed out townies don't know who even exists in the game, this fixation, sir, looks like a giant slip!  Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked

@Active ppl who havent responded to this point yet THOUGHTS ON DAN vs DAN and possible motivations behind this one-dimensional attitude??????

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Whether or not I'm a mafia member I think I pointed out more than enough reasons why I would think you were Yoshistar regardless.


naaaaaaaaaaa, I disagree sir!!!! And here's why!

FOREMOSt, you are cherry-picking your 'evidence' that I'm yoshistar!

- I post text walls! Harvey Zoran and you make text walls too!
- The voices tell me I'm a schizophrenic with 25 personalities and way too much cocaine for my own good!!!!!!!!1 Yoshistar is hyper but the faggot's nowhere near my level bitch! w000000!
- Lots of my posts follow Zoran's "take a quote and respond to it" format, does this make me 15% Zoran?????

You have been tunneling on me=yoshistar this entire game sir, ignoring all evidence contradicting this idea!!!!

You don't even know if I'm playing a role-given character at all!!!! What if I'm just fucking with my meta???? Shocked

Feeling the heat yet?  Grin

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if you don't think that would be helpful for town, clue us into who these other personalities are?


Good sir, I truly must apologize, I was going to introduce you to the voices, but they tell me you'd think I'm crazy, and they're too scared to show themselves, sorry babez <3

@Zoran, John

Sure, tis good to root out information........

HOWEVER,

Dan has tunneled me all day with a 100% suspicion of a character he's forcing to fit my playstyle, and very quickly voted Orange, who only gave two mostly-substance-less posts, despite this being how Orange has played in previous games. (Not saying Orange is inno, he looks bad too rn!!!!!1111) Further, Sir Dannius the Great thus far failed to sufficiently account for why he thinks I'm YS after Sir Sock III illuminated the fact that ONLY maf know the names of the characters in-game!!!!!!

CUE THE REACTIONARY RATIONALIZATIONS!!  Smiley Smiley Smiley

Down to post 111, TO BE CONTINUED!!!!!!!!!1111~~
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Reply #122 - 08/22/17 at 19:27:12
 
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I really hope you typo'd here and you're not intentionally feeding the "let's not stop discussing who YS is" flame.


yeah I did typo I fucking meant TYG god DAMMIT

soz babes  Smiley <3
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Reply #123 - 08/22/17 at 19:29:28
 
Tell me who else I should vote for if not Orange? It's still early in the day and I think his logic is very bad and that he deserves some pressure, if you're going to think I'm scummy for voting for Orange, at least evaluate the logic I made to get to that vote.
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Reply #124 - 08/22/17 at 19:42:47
 
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Lmao, Leone's joining post in the sign up thread for this game was literally "in if you'll tolerate a low-activity kind of playstyle".  One might have assumed that we were headed for a normal Leone type of game where he does literally nothing.


awww, the man thinks he knows my meta from 2 past games <3  Smiley

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His posting this game so far has been so absurdly contrary to that that it's obvious that there's some kind of reason for it


yep!

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that is related to his role and alignment.


Oooooooooh, an assumption!!!   Cheesy I can play this game too!! Let's see... human blood looks like spaghetti sauce, therefore the Flying spaghetti Monster created the universe and demands a sacrifice of meatballs celebrated with an orgy every third Wednesday!!!!  Cheesy Cheesy Surely, no-one would jump to that sort of non-sequitur conclusion!!!!!! ...right? Lips Sealed

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The most likely reason I can come up with is that his role and alignment are such where he feels he can get away with posting huge amounts of nonsense and where he can feel comfortable with causing chaos.  The more I think about it the more I feel like he's exactly Yoshistar and a jester/angel.


...or I just have a fuckton more free time than I thought I would?

also still no comment on why you think Yoshistar even exists as a role. I am disappoint, good sir.  Kiss

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...if it continues then I'd like to get rid of him sooner instead of later lol.


what makes you want to get rid of me babe????  Smiley

TO BE CONTINUED AGAIN!!!!!!
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