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06/29/17 at 08:01:47
Just out of curiosity, will SNES Classic times count?
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Wild Card 782 wrote
on 06/29/17 at 08:01:47:
Just out of curiosity, will SNES Classic times count?
From what we have been hearing of the system interface which may be similar to the Wii U, no. I hear they have been selling out so much as well. But there are always plenty original SNES's going on ebay so it would be good to invest in one of those.
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Sami de la SMK wrote
on 06/29/17 at 08:38:21:
But there are always plenty original SNES's going on ebay so it would be good to invest in one of those.
Original SNES + SMK is getting closer and closer to a SNES Classic Mini in terms of price, and many "new" players only have an HDTV that may not even have the required input to plug a SNES video cable in. Unfortunately, this argument seems to be less and less relevant as years are going by…
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Re: Will SNES Classic times count?
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Sami de la SMK wrote
on 06/29/17 at 08:38:21:
Wild Card 782 wrote
on 06/29/17 at 08:01:47:
Just out of curiosity, will SNES Classic times count?
From what we have been hearing of the system interface which may be similar to the Wii U, no.
Definitely right Sami, even Satoshi Yamato from Nintendo said yesterday: "Looking at ways to develop Virtual Console.
Classic Mini is one form of Virtual Console
. We can also sell physical. Looking to make it as big as we can."
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06/30/17 at 05:19:04
If the savestate function works in the same way as it does on the nes mini then it will be useless in terms of gaining any advantage so wouldn't use that as a reason to ban it (though no guarantee it will work the same way).
Not allowing snes mini times would be to deny possibly a lot of new joiners (since millions will then have smk again), so would be very careful about doing so without thinking very carefully as to if the reasons why are really justified.
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wxyz wrote
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If the savestate function works in the same way as it does on the nes mini then it will be useless in terms of gaining any advantage so wouldn't use that as a reason to ban it (though no guarantee it will work the same way).
Not allowing snes mini times would be to deny possibly a lot of new joiners
(since millions will then have smk again), so would be very careful about doing so without thinking very carefully as to if the reasons why are really justified.
I tend to agree with you but the problem with the SNES mini is the same than the NES mini-- completely hackable to add games, emulators, and cheat features...
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06/30/17 at 06:09:31
If people want to cheat, it's easy to do so on a real snes too. I'm not sure disallowing people because they may be able to cheat is the way forward, as everyone can cheat if they really want too.
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wxyz wrote
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If people want to cheat, it's easy to do so on a real snes too. I'm not sure disallowing people because they may be able to cheat is the way forward, as everyone can cheat if they really want too.
You can not cheat on a real SNES console using a real SMK cartridge, how do you want to use save states?
It's probably more easy when you need a serious proof to request to see the real SNES cartridge and the real Super Nintendo that the person is using for playing than trying to make investigations into different VC systems from the Wii, Wii U, New 3DS, to the SNES mini and without any possibility of checking physical cartridges.
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06/30/17 at 06:41:24
You could hack smk, increase top speed by a little and cartmod it on a smk cartridge.
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You could hack smk, increase top speed by a little and cartmod it on a smk cartridge.
Yup, same thing as making any hack and mod like Super Mario Kart Turbo or Super Parigo Kart, but if at first you hack a real SMK cartridge to increase even a little bit the top speed we'll notice this difference just by using a video proof from the person first and checking frame by frame plus other tools, also it takes 1 minute to open a SMK cartridge to see if the PCB is modded or not, if any doubt.
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I could cheat on a real snes with a real smk cartridge without having to modify anything. I could do it very easily too, but I won't.
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I could cheat on a real snes with a real smk cartridge without having to modify anything. I could do it very easily too, but I won't.
This is mollshit
dude, if I send you a real SNES + a real cartridge and if both don't have any modification/switch/etc how do you want to cheat seriously, magically?
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^Yes I could cheat it very easily. I won't say how though as it's not something that should be advertised.
If you think that people can't cheat on original hardware then you are like those people who only buy macs because they don't get viruses.
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^Yes I could cheat it very easily. I won't say how though as it's not something that should be advertised.
Even using third party accessory like a Pro Action Replay MK3 won't save you from being caught.
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If you think that people can't cheat on original hardware then you are like those people who only buy macs because they don't get viruses.
Mole, I'm not saying people can't cheat on original hardware, I am saying you CAN NOT cheat on original hardware (SNES + SMK) if there is absolutely no modification, like I dare you to buy a brand new Super Nintendo and the game new too and then being able to cheat instantly to beat the 0'55"97 time on MC1 NTSC by Sami for example, and this is bullshit if you claim you can, no more, no less-- BULLSHIT!
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06/30/17 at 08:28:31
^I didn't claim that I could get wr's by cheating, but I could beat my own pr's.
This is the last I will say on this as is not something that should really be discussed here.
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^I didn't claim that I could get wr's by cheating, but I could beat my own pr's.
ok.
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Chrono Krysster II wrote
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wxyz wrote
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I could cheat on a real snes with a real smk cartridge without having to modify anything. I could do it very easily too, but I won't.
This is mollshit
dude, if I send you a real SNES + a real cartridge and if both don't have any modification/switch/etc how do you want to cheat seriously, magically?
"This is mollshit"
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I agree with Moll. Allowing people to submit times via the SNES Classic will be a great opportunity to increase the population and awareness of the SMK community tremendously. Isn't that what we want? Or do we want to keep it tightly knit as it has been for the last 10+ years now? I'm still fairly new to the community so I don't know if all you grizzled vets like the community as it is now or if y'all are keen on the idea of expansion.
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wxyz wrote
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^I didn't claim that I could get wr's by cheating, but I could beat my own pr's.
So basically you are telling us that you could beat your PRs by using your
mysterious
cheating technic, but NOT THE WRs.. that's really interesting (and kinda pointless technic
), btw I'm pretty sure that I can beat all my PRs but without cheating at all
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This is the last I will say on this as is not something that should really be discussed here.
Ya ya that's ok, I'll keep this info this way, I promise from now shhttt..
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wxyz wrote
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^I didn't claim that I could get wr's by cheating, but I could beat my own pr's.
This is the last I will say on this as is not something that should really be discussed here.
I'm curious, please send me a PM if you're not against explaining privately.
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07/01/17 at 14:55:35
I have a real SNES but as far as I know I don't have an SMK cart. Just the Wii VC Version which is okay right? But anyways just have SNES Mini users send in an identification video.
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Yeah. Wii VC is fine.
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Antistar wrote
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wxyz wrote
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^I didn't claim that I could get wr's by cheating, but I could beat my own pr's.
This is the last I will say on this as is not something that should really be discussed here.
I'm curious, please send me a PM if you're not against explaining privately.
Well, I assumed he was just referring to abusing Lakitu (or wallhits) to skip laps, using infinite boost on MC2 (no longer allowed on the main site), or breaking the blocks on the GV tracks in order to make turns tighter than intended. Those are all "cheating", and can be done on an original SNES and SMK cartridge without modifications.
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This is going to sound selfish, but I hope not, because that means more people will join the rankings, which means I'll have to work harder to move up the ranks. I've had several weeks where I either stayed at my current rank or moved down the ranks because a new player joined that week. I had to work my ass off to get my current rank.
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This is going to sound selfish, but I hope not, because that means more people will join the rankings, which means I'll have to work harder to move up the ranks. I've had several weeks where I either stayed at my current rank or moved down the ranks because a new player joined that week. I had to work my ass off to get my current rank.
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