I'd still consider it a glitch due to the massive time save (6-7 seconds) and the SC was obviously unintended.

DennisColvin76 wrote on 04/27/17 at 17:07:14:


Time save alone ≠ glitch. Low tricks off ramps were unintended also.

Agreed. It is NOT a glitch.

It's using a RAMP which is INTENDED to trick off of or just go off w/o a trick [optional] just like any other track.

It does NOT break the physics of the game as well.

Only people calling it a glitch are sour they can't do that shit!

Time saved off a short cut has NO relation to whether it's a glitch or not as well.

DJT wrote on 04/27/17 at 22:11:16:


yes, it also gives you a big boost because of the clip cancelling the part of the zipper boost that slows you back down

chouy of all people definitely knows this so i don't know what he is complaining about

jaws has probably never even played the track before and doesn't have a clue what he's talking about

or maybe it's totally intended normal ramp physics because low jumps aren't a glitch and muh tf lake jump !!!! mario did 9/11

(Sorry, this msg is handicapped. It was probably crap, anyway.)

BlazeMSX wrote on 04/28/17 at 07:07:36:



I mean, BCWii literally goes through 2 walls lol

Re: nonSC DKSC chart

Hahaae is correct, you do not clip the wall in any way when making the jump.  The edge of the ramp gives a much more horizontal boost likely due to its odd angle.  You can skip minihops by doing this as well with non-sc but obviously it's not worth because it often sends you in between the platforms into the lava.

Blahpy, I don't even understand what point you're trying to make?  You make ignorant assumptions about a track you don't understand to fit your agenda.  Clearly, I stated the argument of "what nintendo intended" for the game is obsolete because nobody knows what nintendo intended.  Another dumb argument based on subjectivity, not my fault it flew over your head.

So far there seems to be zero factual justification for bc3 being a glitch.

The physics of the game are being exploited for a significant time gain, therefore there are separate charts, simple as.

No, if it was 2009 then I would have argued for the elimination of "non-sc" bc3 but that time has passed.
My intention with this thread is just to clear the air and stop spreading misinformation.  I'm not saying there should be changes to charts, just proper labeling.  Things like clicking on the WW thread and seeing it labeled as "Glitch" is just incorrect.  Even clicking on CTGP, it's under the glitch section when there's a "sc" catagory.  I realize the PP has no relation to CTGP but my point is that the PP is one of the largest sites for MKW TTs and if everyone here refers to it as a glitch, then the misinformation spreads to other platforms.

RosscoXz wrote on 04/28/17 at 14:39:44:


You don't know what you're talking about.  So again, please stop spreading misinformation.


Edit: Again, Blahpy, that's wrong.  There's no skimming of the wall to cancel a boost.  That's just an ignorant assumption to justify your stance that it's a glitch, which it's not.  The edge of the boost panel does not have the lip to stop the horizontal boost that the middle of the ramp has because of its angle.  If 6 second time cut=glitch, then DKS=glitch as well.  Pick one.

Not sure what I would have to gain by creating drama on a Mario Kart site?  Maybe just trying to improve some errors?  Another childish response, to be expected.

blahpy wrote on 04/28/17 at 16:15:18:


Expected pussy-laced reply by the faggot  

Your dumb ass thinks it's a glitch because it hits your emotional drum, shut up faggot, you don't know shit.

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I see it as a SC, not a glitch really, but it cuts so much time that we needed 2 charts. Other wise we can allow GV rock hop for no SC as it "doesn't use any game breaking machanics, only riding rocks."