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ADAM-XL King Offline Just some MK7 player, learning other MKs fell 3411 times for marty USA, Iowa Gender:	MK8 Deluxe Fire hopping 04/18/17 at 18:01:54 Well so far, on anti gravity sections, it is gone as seen in this video https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HkHw2WLVj10 However, he didnt do any fire hopping on a section without anti gravity soooo, does anyone know anything else?
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Kam59 n00b Offline I Love Mark 2.0! missed 2864 mts	Re: MK8 Deluxe Fire hopping Reply #1 - 04/18/17 at 18:41:14 I had no idea so many people were against fire-hopping. I don't see any reason to buy the game anymore besides TT 200cc. Not worth the money.
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Re: MK8 Deluxe Fire hopping
Reply #2 - 04/18/17 at 20:33:20

ADAM-XL wrote on 04/18/17 at 18:01:54:

Well so far, on anti gravity sections, it is gone as seen in this video

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HkHw2WLVj10

However, he didnt do any fire hopping on a section without anti gravity soooo, does anyone know anything else?

I was about to post the same video Grin

This makes me happy so far. Still on the fence about buying mk8d, but no fire hopping pushes me a tiny bit closer to a purchase.

Fingers crossed its gone for good Tongue

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Fant0m Myth Offline aka Flo punched 5943 kiddies Paris / France Gender:	Re: MK8 Deluxe Fire hopping Reply #3 - 04/19/17 at 00:28:45 Fant0m wrote on 04/11/17 at 08:43:16: SPOILER ALERT Say goodbye to firehopping Say goodbye to softdrifting But oh well...
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Re: MK8 Deluxe Fire hopping
Reply #4 - 04/19/17 at 07:23:54

Firehopping is off from MK8 DX. I'm 99% positive with that statement.

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Aron Langerak wrote on 08/06/17 at 13:47:24:

MKDD is not technical at all

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Mick Ninja Offline drank 6045 beers France Gender:	Re: MK8 Deluxe Fire hopping Reply #5 - 04/19/17 at 07:27:20 Antistar wrote on 04/19/17 at 07:23:54: Firehopping is off from MK8 DX. I'm 99% positive with that statement. Did someone out there get a review copy?
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Colvin Ex Member	Re: MK8 Deluxe Fire hopping Reply #6 - 04/19/17 at 11:24:20 Why did Trolltendo have to take out the one thing that made MK8 decently competitive?
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Moritz King Offline Owns all Mario Kart Games 7683 days karting Guaíra - PR, Brasil Gender:	Re: MK8 Deluxe Fire hopping Reply #7 - 04/19/17 at 12:25:16 Best news ever. The worst news is that I don't have a Switch yet
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Rodriguezjr Karter Offline fell 6135 times for marty United States Gender:	Re: MK8 Deluxe Fire hopping Reply #8 - 04/19/17 at 12:40:51 Don't really mind. I usually play in 200cc where it's useless any way.
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Reply #9 - 04/19/17 at 13:18:35

I Am looking forward to this fair play of sorts sadly clans will get bad reputation due to their outrage Roll Eyes

is it so hard to ignore such as sad skill?.............i call this a yes now clans (if any at all) will suffer item damage like the rest of us Tongue

only thing most can do as well as pros who use unfair skill will only rely on new Mega-Mini-Turbo Cheesy

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Re: MK8 Deluxe Fire hopping
Reply #10 - 04/20/17 at 00:16:40

Mick wrote on 04/19/17 at 07:27:20:

Did someone out there get a review copy? Roll Eyes

We have two at work and our review will be released today. But this time I'm not involved.

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Aron Langerak wrote on 08/06/17 at 13:47:24:

MKDD is not technical at all

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Reply #11 - 04/20/17 at 10:10:03

queenkani wrote on 04/19/17 at 13:18:35:

I Am looking forward to this fair play of sorts sadly clans will get bad reputation due to their outrage Roll Eyes

is it so hard to ignore such as sad skill?.............i call this a yes now clans (if any at all) will suffer item damage like the rest of us Tongue

only thing most can do as well as pros who use unfair skill will only rely on new Mega-Mini-Turbo Cheesy

It's not really going to dent clans in any way, may even create more than regular MK8 now. The same good people will be good almost certainly. Pros will always adapt to the new optimal strategies so they'll always stay on top, pretty much. We beat you on MK7 without firehopping when you joined our rooms and tried to ruin us playing matches pretty easily, I don't see what'll be different here, other than continuation of private rooms being a beneficial bonus to people who enjoy clan wars.

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BlazeMSX Elite Offline missed 3654 mts Gender:	Re: MK8 Deluxe Fire hopping Reply #12 - 04/20/17 at 17:38:07 Moritz wrote on 04/19/17 at 12:25:16: Best news ever. The worst news is that I don't have a Switch yet Hi, is there any chance you can check your PMs? A few people (including myself) have been trying to contact you for a little while.
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MKchouy93 Elite Offline I Love Mark 2.0! missed 4964 mts	Re: MK8 Deluxe Fire hopping Reply #13 - 04/24/17 at 13:21:02 Isn't this a big deal to the MK8 community? MK8 isn't my main game, but I would be really upset with the removal of firehopping from the competitive aspect. Just confused, I thought I would see commotion with this announcement. Huge turnoff to MK8D imo
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Reply #14 - 04/24/17 at 14:26:14

Firehopping was a clear design flaw the developers overlooked, so why should anyone be surprised that Nintendo fixed their mistake? MK8D may be seen as "boring" now without firehopping, but that's subjective, and subjectivity is something Nintendo doesn't give a fuck about. Anyone who's crying about the removal of these imperfections can just stop because your crying will not change a damn thing. Instead, use common sense and just continue playing MK8 Roll Eyes

Remember:

MKDS players abused snaking -> MKW and onward removed snaking (and manual miniturbo charge).
MKW player abused bikes' clear dominance over karts -> bikes suck now (or perhaps in MK8D, equal).
MK7 players abused gliderboosts and gliderbounces, as well as boosts from entering water -> MK8 made gliders shit, and entering water is slow and shitty
MK8 players abused firehopping, momentum slides, and wheel/dpad -> all these techniques are removed from MK8D.
*Glitches are also impossible in MK8 (and MK8D), something that hasn't been the case previously.

So again, this change can't be of any surprise.

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Re: MK8 Deluxe Fire hopping
Reply #15 - 04/24/17 at 14:34:02

Batman5112 wrote on 04/24/17 at 14:26:14:

MKDS players abused snaking -> MKW and onward removed snaking (and manual miniturbo charge).
MKW player abused bikes' clear dominance over karts -> bikes suck now (or perhaps in MK8D, equal).
MK7 players abused gliderboosts and gliderbounces, as well as boosts from entering water -> MK8 made gliders shit, and entering water is slow and shitty
MK8 players abused firehopping, momentum slides, and wheel/dpad -> all these techniques are removed from MK8D.

next: MK8D players abuse UMTs -> UMTs removed in MK9

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MKchouy93 Elite Offline I Love Mark 2.0! worships 4964 kartgods	Re: MK8 Deluxe Fire hopping Reply #16 - 04/24/17 at 14:49:38 Not saying whining is going to do anything about it, but it seems like a pretty big game changer. On sm4sh pages whenever a character got nerfed people would go nuts so I was just a bit surprised that there was no backlash.
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Reply #17 - 04/24/17 at 15:01:25

MKchouy93 wrote on 04/24/17 at 14:49:38:

Not saying whining is going to do anything about it, but it seems like a pretty big game changer. On sm4sh pages whenever a character got nerfed people would go nuts so I was just a bit surprised that there was no backlash.

I've seen many people cry about it on Miiverse. Not here though, as majority of the guys here are completely indifferent to/disliked MK8 and welcome the change MK8D brings. Miiverse, on the other hand, is pretty much the home of MK8's community, and it's full of a staggering number of immature brats and firehopping fanboys. Even MK8's competitive players (such as SuperFX) would rather have firehopping than no firehopping. Just look at the comments in this video and see how many people agree with him: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4LbkuT6iXE

I should clarify it's okay to rant about whatever change to a video game, but do so understanding that adapting to the change is really the only thing you can do (unless the change is so drastically bad that even Nintendo can rationalize our frustration with the change; usually never happens).

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Reply #18 - 04/25/17 at 17:37:17

Yeah, even knowing that complaining won't bring change to MK8D, I'd still vent like hell if MK8 was my main game lol.

I don't understand the "it's not what nintendo intended" argument everyone says. Tons of advanced tech in numerous games are not intended, yet make the games as amazing as they are. Imagine melee without wavedashing. So sad that nintendo doesn't support its competitive fanbase.

I guess all anyone can do opposed to this drastic change is just not support MK8D by buying it. Oh well, I hope somebody else gets enjoyment out of it.

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Reply #19 - 04/25/17 at 19:11:18

MKchouy93 wrote on 04/25/17 at 17:37:17:

I don't understand the "it's not what nintendo intended" argument everyone says.

I tend to speculate even if these techs were found during development, Nintendo doesn't realize its potential until it drastically changes the metagame after the game's release. Then all the sudden it becomes "unintended." Thus, cue Nintendo's bias for casual players, and the techs are removed for future installments. Hence, to say, Nintendo fixed the "flaws" that they overlooked.

MKchouy93 wrote on 04/25/17 at 17:37:17:

I guess all anyone can do opposed to this drastic change is just not support MK8D by buying it. Oh well, I hope somebody else gets enjoyment out of it.

Yup. Talking with your wallet is what counts. Of course, millions of other people have to do the same in order to actually affect Nintendo, which will never happen. So really the only hope is for MK8D to have another unintended tech Smiley

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MasterLuigi King Offline Back on the track! 6637 days karting Canada, Quebec Gender:	Re: MK8 Deluxe Fire hopping Reply #20 - 04/26/17 at 10:41:21 Let's do it boyz, let's find an unintended tech in MK8D, to make this mario kart as competitive as the other ones. Maybe the triple turbo charge can be abused.
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Reply #21 - 12/15/17 at 14:59:06

Why are you saving something that is broken, if rumours are true they removed it then i will feel this will be good first step for nintendo....oh wait, THEY HAVE based on a few videos it is obvious your little exploits will be gone from this game and the next

i on one hand do not fear this change for many reasons so get use to playing casual way Smiley

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