So, about Zwiebel.... most of his fucking posts are discussing the schizo plan with ALAK. I think wolf would take a part in that, since it really isn't scum hunting (no need to write opinions on anyone) and maybe they could steer the discussion on their favor (Zwiebel seemed against the idea...). He did make that huge post against IsaaK, but hey, he had to do something that looked relevant. He can make a player look bad, specially when they're noob. He doesn't say much about anyone else. Interestingly, he says TYG "makes sense" and looks "townish", which had been said before. Also labels Diamond as noob town, which is kind of natural.
Not sure what to say about him refusing to analyze me, may be another sign he wasn't interested in scum hunting. He still does mention me as lycnh candidate at the end, maybe he predicted I would get heat on D2 after my EoD so he silently encourages my lynch.
Also noticed how he encouraged people to find the angel... which is something scum would be interested in, but maybe he could gain a bit of town cred from it?

Seems like a good lynch for today, how is Diamond or even me a better choice.

Holy fuck, I just noticed in Zwiebel's profile that he hasn't been online in 45 hours, last time was soon after his last post. He was never online during N1. That means he didn't send a PM with the night action. He can't be crow nor witch and he most likely isn't angel. So either he's the fox and he screwed up or he's wolf and he let his teammate do the work for him.
This is too good. Why didn't anyone notice this before??

P.A.F.625 wrote on 04/21/17 at 12:15:36:


I must say that could be a viable scum tactic. Dan is one of the strongest players we have in this game, so it would make a lot of sense to buddy up to him. Still I also must say that I haven't had any scumvibes from TYG yet this game, and I usually have been able to read him well enough.

Btw TYG, where is your vote at at this point? Do you still have PAF as your #1 scum target?

LewisRichards wrote on 04/21/17 at 13:53:39:


I have to agree here that my theory of PAF and Zwiebel being buddies can probably be thrown out of the window. PAF is also correct that statistically only, that would make Zwiebel a top lynch candidate. And combined with the inconsistencies I pointed out earlier, I also have to come back on my read of PAF and say that if Zwiebel does flip mafia, I would never look at him as his buddy.

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LewisRichards wrote on 04/21/17 at 13:53:39:


Also, I'm not sure what your question about ALAK is about. I think he got modkilled and he won't come back to this game.

LewisRichards wrote on 04/21/17 at 14:11:37:


Meh once again, the punishment for this infringement isn't mentioned. Does he get modkilled? Does his vote get removed? Does his night action get taken away (lol)?

Is Diamond Zwiebel wolf team possible? Neither of them have really accused each other, and obviously there's not much content wise.

LewisRichards wrote on 04/21/17 at 14:45:09:


I was thinking about this idea. Diamond made some quite stupid posts before Zwiebel came into the thread. His posting got a little bit better after Zwiebel came in here. He did also end up on the same wagon as Zwiebel at the end of D1.

The thing that makes me doubt this idea is that Diamond started this day saying that he was suspicious of Zwiebel. The only way I can see this possible is if Zwiebel informed him that he wasn't going to be active today and that it would probably earn him townie points if he was the first one to call him out for his inactivity. I will have to look deeper into this.

Then there remains the question of the nightkill. Either Diamond made the decision on his own and the witch saved the target this night, or it might even be possible that the wolves didn't kill anyone at all this night. What does seem most likely?

Diamond, why did you wait until Zwiebel already had two votes on him to put your vote down? Is it in your best interest for the day to end early today?

Diamond wrote on 04/21/17 at 15:07:58:


You must be kidding me with this post. All day long you've threatened to vote Zwiebel, with no kind of explanation except for inactivity, but you have constantly withheld your vote for no reason whatsoever. Then finally right when Zwiebel received his second vote, you pop in and put a third vote on him. Do you not know that 4 votes is a majority and would end the day IMMEDIATLY? And now you're even calling me out for removing my vote? Who do you think wants the day to end as early as possible? The villagers who are trying to use every minute to figure out who the wolves are? Or the wolves who want the exact opposite of that? I have no idea how you can make this kind of post from a town mindset.

This is great, just great.
Now we only need to know who's his buddy. It's either TvK, TYG or Diamond. I still feel like there's a great chance Diamond is noob town.
I guess the witch should kill the top suspect on N2? If Zwiebel is regular wolf I see no problem with that and if the suspect is town, we get to D3 as 2 vs 1... hopefully should be an easy decision.
But what if he's the avenger wolf? A fail would give 1 vs 1... oddly enough we can still win in here if the crow survives and picks the wolf, but what are the odds? xD

Diamond wrote on 04/21/17 at 15:23:18:


goddamit do you not realize he only unvoted to prevent the day from ending early? It's obvious we're lynching Zwiebel

...I don't think you're the last wolf tho, you're just stupid

I don't like how Zwiebel simply referred to TYG as making more sense than usual. I don't like how TYG went after IsaaK and defended Dan several times. I also don't like how he seemed to ignore my D2 posts till I got the crucial clue on Zwiebel.
But at the same time, I still think that TvK's post against Zwiebel may be bussing.
Can't decide between these two yet. I'll be awake for 45 minutes...