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theyounggun Ex Member	Re: Werewolves Game D2 Reply #500 - 04/21/17 at 06:28:30 P.A.F.625 wrote on 04/21/17 at 05:02:34: but I'm not commenting any more than this That's just not the spirit...
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Re: Werewolves Game D2
Reply #501 - 04/21/17 at 07:01:04

TvK wrote on 04/21/17 at 06:19:37:

LewisRichards wrote on 04/21/17 at 05:42:51:

P.A.F.625 wrote on 04/21/17 at 04:35:54:

When I started that post TvK hadn't posted his about Zwiebel. Interesting points, he does seem to have more inconsistencies than you. I still think you deciding to analyze him now does not make you innocent, though.
I wanted to focus on both of you today, I just happened to feel like focusing on you first, since you're the one who posted on D2 so far. If he's town, you die N2, deal?
[vote]Zwiebel[/vote]

Ummm 1 post from someone you think is wolf changed your mind on who to vote? You're all over the place lol.

TYG, what do you think of Diamond dropping his apparent PAF scumread and his hestitation to put a vote down on anyone today?

I don't like that he never layed a vote down on paf. Especially at eod1 there when it was going to be paf or Isaak and paf was his top wolf read. I'm not sure about his hesitation to avoid voting yet...

@Diamond why do think that paf decided not to call you out when everyone else was doing so, I believe that's around the time where he said he "would like to shift the attention back to Dan" even though that's where he dropped the wolf read into the angel read. That doesn't sound like scum hunting to me. Why would he shift the attention like that?

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Reply #502 - 04/21/17 at 07:13:41

P.A.F.625 wrote on 04/21/17 at 05:06:43:

Dan, please tell me that your scum read on TvK wasn't bluff. Now's a good time to reveal your reasons. I feel like only both of us can lead town in the right direction.

Popping in to glaze over the thread. I thought he and IsaaK might be a team where he gave real reasons to scumread IsaaK, and then didn't want to put pressure on him instead focusing on you and Diamond. The fact that IsaaK flipped town makes me feel somewhat better about TvK. Gonna try to look at Diamond when I have time.

Who was suspicious of PAF on day 1?

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Re: Werewolves Game D2
Reply #503 - 04/21/17 at 07:18:48

P.A.F.625 wrote on 04/20/17 at 14:41:16:

Hm.... a quick read of some of the D1 posts gave me some ideas but I'm not sure they're relevant, there isn't even a point in posting them yet. I haven't properly analyzed any of my suspects, they're still neutral to me. I guess the real work is due tomorrow.
In the meantime, I want to know everyone's opinion on TvK and Zwiebel (including them on each other). Specially Zwiebel, I don't think he was given enough attention. I'm certain at least one of them is wolf (since I only have 3 suspects). Don't let these guys slide so easily. Reminder: in the first game I played they were both maf and played like decent townies on D1.
See ya in 13 hours or so.

You have 3 suspects? You're suspicious of Zwiebel, TvK and who else?

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DansGame Ninja Offline I Love Mark 2.0! drank 3358 beers	Re: Werewolves Game D2 Reply #504 - 04/21/17 at 07:23:48 I'm gonna be busy like all of today. I'll try to make sense of this game around 3 hours before EoD
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DansGame Ninja Offline I Love Mark 2.0! 3358 days karting	Re: Werewolves Game D2 Reply #505 - 04/21/17 at 07:25:11 Will try to at least read through everything and ruminate on it.
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DansGame Ninja Offline I Love Mark 2.0! 3358 sex records	Re: Werewolves Game D2 Reply #506 - 04/21/17 at 07:33:07 LewisRichards wrote on 04/20/17 at 13:16:14: Also good freaking job witch, pretty sick no one died. I thought TYG was town yesterday, but I will admit this is the kind of thing that J-cop said on D2 in the last game which made me read him scum. Posts like "yeah, great job town, let's do this!"
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Re: Werewolves Game D1 : Who's gonna pay for this?
Reply #507 - 04/21/17 at 07:42:43

ALAKTORN wrote on 04/19/17 at 15:18:27:

Reminder we need to decide on a D2 lynch so Schizophrenic can get it right N1 and we remove Wolves’ strongest power in Night kills from N2 on. Only problem is if we lynch Witch D1– Witch needs to save whoever dies N1 so Wolves can’t just kill who we decided to lynch D2.

ALAKTORN wrote on 04/19/17 at 14:50:17:

Lynch targets:
TYG: IsaaK/PAF
ALAK: TYG/Dan
PAF: TYG/Dan
Diamond: TYG/PAF/Dan (current vote)
Timur: IsaaK/PAF

3 PAF, 3 Dan, 3 TYG, 2 IsaaK. That’s not good enough, we need a majority on 2.

Dan: IsaaK/PAF

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DansGame Ninja Offline I Love Mark 2.0! 3358 holabolas	Re: Werewolves Game D2 Reply #508 - 04/21/17 at 07:46:06 I naturally have to be suspicious of anyone who voted to kill a town yesterday. This would include myself but also TYG, diamond, TvK, and Zwiebel.
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Re: Werewolves Game D1 : Who's gonna pay for this?
Reply #509 - 04/21/17 at 07:48:21

Diamond wrote on 04/19/17 at 19:15:02:

TvK wrote on 04/19/17 at 19:13:19:

I am not sure anymore what exactly is going on, but Diamond could you please unvote Dan?

Yeah sure. He clearly doesn't care anymore either
[vote]Unvote[/vote]
[vote]Isaak[/vote]

Diamond, were you at all suspicious of IsaaK before this?

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DansGame Ninja Offline I Love Mark 2.0! 3358 days karting	Re: Werewolves Game D2 Reply #510 - 04/21/17 at 08:03:54 If we're talking between PAF and Diamond, I would much rather lynch Diamond I think. It's too convenient that three people (including myself) had IsaaK/PAF for D1/D2 lynches. [vote]Diamond[/vote]
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Re: Werewolves Game D2
Reply #511 - 04/21/17 at 09:11:07

DansGame wrote on 04/21/17 at 07:13:41:

P.A.F.625 wrote on 04/21/17 at 05:06:43:

Dan, please tell me that your scum read on TvK wasn't bluff. Now's a good time to reveal your reasons. I feel like only both of us can lead town in the right direction.

I thought he and IsaaK might be a team where he gave real reasons to scumread IsaaK, and then didn't want to put pressure on him instead focusing on you and Diamond. The fact that IsaaK flipped town makes me feel somewhat better about TvK.

How disappointing.....
I really feel like focusing on him and Zwiebel.
My other suspect is TYG, I can't really tell with this guy. Voted him yesterday bc I didn't find anyone too scummy and he was like 40% town to me. I don't want to spend time analyzing him yet. He's not as good as the first two I mentioned, after all.
Where did TvK list his reasons to scum-read IsaaK...?

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Reply #512 - 04/21/17 at 09:17:33

LewisRichards wrote on 04/21/17 at 05:42:51:

P.A.F.625 wrote on 04/21/17 at 04:35:54:

When I started that post TvK hadn't posted his about Zwiebel. Interesting points, he does seem to have more inconsistencies than you. I still think you deciding to analyze him now does not make you innocent, though.
I wanted to focus on both of you today, I just happened to feel like focusing on you first, since you're the one who posted on D2 so far. If he's town, you die N2, deal?
[vote]Zwiebel[/vote]

Ummm 1 post from someone you think is wolf changed your mind on who to vote? You're all over the place lol.

1. I think it can be bussing. It feels adequate for him to "suspect" Zwiebel now.
2. He made good points anyway lol

TvK is still my 2nd top scumread.

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theyounggun Ex Member	Re: Werewolves Game D2 Reply #513 - 04/21/17 at 09:21:07 DansGame wrote on 04/21/17 at 08:03:54: If we're talking between PAF and Diamond, I would much rather lynch Diamond I think. It's too convenient that three people (including myself) had IsaaK/PAF for D1/D2 lynches. [vote]Diamond[/vote] Why is Diamond worse than PAF? You pegged him as n00b town d1?
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Reply #517 - 04/21/17 at 09:42:52

P.A.F.625 wrote on 04/21/17 at 09:11:07:

DansGame wrote on 04/21/17 at 07:13:41:

P.A.F.625 wrote on 04/21/17 at 05:06:43:

Dan, please tell me that your scum read on TvK wasn't bluff. Now's a good time to reveal your reasons. I feel like only both of us can lead town in the right direction.

I thought he and IsaaK might be a team where he gave real reasons to scumread IsaaK, and then didn't want to put pressure on him instead focusing on you and Diamond. The fact that IsaaK flipped town makes me feel somewhat better about TvK.

How disappointing.....
I really feel like focusing on him and Zwiebel.
My other suspect is TYG, I can't really tell with this guy. Voted him yesterday bc I didn't find anyone too scummy and he was like 40% town to me. I don't want to spend time analyzing him yet. He's not as good as the first two I mentioned, after all.
Where did TvK list his reasons to scum-read IsaaK...?

Why would you not even take your time to analyze TYG? Are you that sure of your top two scumreads? If so, where are your cases on me or Zwiebel? Why do say you cant read TYG at all, and then make no effort at all to look for something that could make you read him. So far your votes today have been on me (right after I voted him), and on Zwiebel (using my points to vote him).

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Re: Werewolves Game D2
Reply #518 - 04/21/17 at 09:45:59

P.A.F.625 wrote on 04/21/17 at 09:27:54:

LewisRichards wrote on 04/21/17 at 06:28:30:

P.A.F.625 wrote on 04/21/17 at 05:02:34:

but I'm not commenting any more than this

That's just not the spirit...

Bleh, you think I had more to say? I won't waste time defending Diamond.

What do you think of the fact that you have 2 townreads and one of them is even voting the other?

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Reply #519 - 04/21/17 at 09:49:33

P.A.F.625 wrote on 04/21/17 at 09:11:07:

Where did TvK list his reasons to scum-read IsaaK...?

P.A.F.625 wrote on 04/21/17 at 09:29:54:

Interesting on how D1 wagonomics barely say anything bc everyone voted IsaaK except me lol.
I wonder if TvK's late vote on him says something...

I have said throughout the day that I would rather not lynch IsaaK on D1. However, at the end of the day it was becoming clear that either IsaaK or Dan would get lynched. And that made it an easy choice for me.

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Reply #520 - 04/21/17 at 09:52:01

TvK wrote on 04/21/17 at 09:42:52:

P.A.F.625 wrote on 04/21/17 at 09:11:07:

DansGame wrote on 04/21/17 at 07:13:41:

P.A.F.625 wrote on 04/21/17 at 05:06:43:

Dan, please tell me that your scum read on TvK wasn't bluff. Now's a good time to reveal your reasons. I feel like only both of us can lead town in the right direction.

I thought he and IsaaK might be a team where he gave real reasons to scumread IsaaK, and then didn't want to put pressure on him instead focusing on you and Diamond. The fact that IsaaK flipped town makes me feel somewhat better about TvK.

How disappointing.....
I really feel like focusing on him and Zwiebel.
My other suspect is TYG, I can't really tell with this guy. Voted him yesterday bc I didn't find anyone too scummy and he was like 40% town to me. I don't want to spend time analyzing him yet. He's not as good as the first two I mentioned, after all.
Where did TvK list his reasons to scum-read IsaaK...?

Why would you not even take your time to analyze TYG? Are you that sure of your top two scumreads? If so, where are your cases on me or Zwiebel? Why do say you cant read TYG at all, and then make no effort at all to look for something that could make you read him. So far your votes today have been on me (right after I voted him), and on Zwiebel (using my points to vote him).

To add to this: how did your read on TYG evolve after you went to bed last night? He used to be your top scumread and now he's only your 3rd scum-candidate. Is there anything in particular that made TYG look better in your eyes, or did I do something that made me a lot more likely to be wolf anywhere?

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Re: Werewolves Game D2
Reply #521 - 04/21/17 at 10:10:57

TvK wrote on 04/21/17 at 09:52:01:

TvK wrote on 04/21/17 at 09:42:52:

P.A.F.625 wrote on 04/21/17 at 09:11:07:

DansGame wrote on 04/21/17 at 07:13:41:

P.A.F.625 wrote on 04/21/17 at 05:06:43:

Dan, please tell me that your scum read on TvK wasn't bluff. Now's a good time to reveal your reasons. I feel like only both of us can lead town in the right direction.

I thought he and IsaaK might be a team where he gave real reasons to scumread IsaaK, and then didn't want to put pressure on him instead focusing on you and Diamond. The fact that IsaaK flipped town makes me feel somewhat better about TvK.

How disappointing.....
I really feel like focusing on him and Zwiebel.
My other suspect is TYG, I can't really tell with this guy. Voted him yesterday bc I didn't find anyone too scummy and he was like 40% town to me. I don't want to spend time analyzing him yet. He's not as good as the first two I mentioned, after all.
Where did TvK list his reasons to scum-read IsaaK...?

Why would you not even take your time to analyze TYG? Are you that sure of your top two scumreads? If so, where are your cases on me or Zwiebel? Why do say you cant read TYG at all, and then make no effort at all to look for something that could make you read him. So far your votes today have been on me (right after I voted him), and on Zwiebel (using my points to vote him).

To add to this: how did your read on TYG evolve after you went to bed last night? He used to be your top scumread and now he's only your 3rd scum-candidate. Is there anything in particular that made TYG look better in your eyes, or did I do something that made me a lot more likely to be wolf anywhere?

Like you said, TYG is only my 3rd scum candidate. I want to focus on you or Zwiebel. If one of you flips town, I can push TYG on D3 since he HAS to be the other wolf (from my point of view).
I can admit, there's that huge post TYG did against IsaaK and myself that I doubt he'd write as wolf... unless he was well coached. Also I'm not really comfortable in sticking with the opinions I had close to EoD bc I was really nervous then.
As for you, well, I just started being more skeptical. I kind of ignored you yesterday bc I knew you would look townie either way. You're good at pretending to scum hunt. Also I know one of the wolves has to be experienced at this, bc really, they've been doing well. There aren't that many options anyway.

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Reply #522 - 04/21/17 at 10:37:51

I'm trying to see if I can find something in Zwiebel's posts which TvK hasn't. Obviously, I also wish he would post today.
In the meantime.... town disappoints me. Are you going to keep ignoring me and insist on lynching either me or Diamond? Town's chances are low, I'm telling ya. Like, give me reasons on why either of my top2 suspects is town, I dare you.

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theyounggun Ex Member	Re: Werewolves Game D2 Reply #523 - 04/21/17 at 10:43:13 ^I'll get back to that when I'm home in a few hours. Should we assume that the witch is an experienced player, or is it at least more likely based on the save btw?
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