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Reply #451 - 04/19/17 at 19:38:26

ALAKTORN wrote on 04/19/17 at 19:32:24:

Diamond wrote on 04/19/17 at 19:28:28:

First of all, I think this is turning out to be a joke of a first game for both Isaak and I

Welcome to the party buddy. All games are a joke with these people. Though you’re part of the problem.

I like how you say this when you are pretty much the main reason this game turned into a joke for me when you started making memes about how you're the only one that is doing anything and then you started giving away your role (but then again, it became pretty obvious you were the schyzophrenic) and all that crap

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Hugo wrote on 07/31/17 at 15:13:47:

Well, it would be like rolling a die and it landing tails every time. After every roll the chance of it being tails becomes less and less, because eventually it will land on heads.

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Walter is Australian, right?

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Shock NinjaShock Offline 5698 equations solved North Carolina Gender:	Re: Werewolves Game D1 : Who's gonna pay for this? Reply #452 - 04/19/17 at 19:40:29 IsaaK was lynched. He was the Lady of Joy. ALAKTORN was blindsided by a RAMBI ATTACK. He was the Schizophrenic. Send in your Night actions to Flo. They are due about 23 hours from now. It is Night 1. Do not post.
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ALAKTORN Myth Offline Resident weeaboo helped 6519 people Italy - Viserba Gender:	Re: Werewolves Game D1 : Who's gonna pay for this? Reply #453 - 04/19/17 at 19:42:03 ALAKTORN wrote on 04/19/17 at 19:21:15: IsaaK is Town as well. [vote]IsaaK[/vote] Wanna lynch PAF next?
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Reply #455 - 04/20/17 at 10:48:08

Flo, I thought you were going to make a post one hour before the day started...? Eh whatever.

Okay, so, believe it or not, I think the odds of Dan being angel (now vanilla townie) are at least 80%. Who else could have been angel? I got stressed while trying to decide and let myself get influenced by ALAK too easily somehow.
(I find it weird how he went against his plan so much, though, it seemed fine to me. But there's point discussing that now).
So now we're 4 vs 2 without the schizo. We can still win. If we mislynch today we have to hope the witch gets it right tho...
I see Diamond as noob town so the choice (for me) is between TYG, TvK and Zwiebel, all of which are basically neutral to me...........

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DansGame Ninja Offline I Love Mark 2.0! drank 3358 beers	Re: Werewolves Game D2 Reply #458 - 04/20/17 at 13:08:12 In case you guys missed it I voted to put PAF at 4 votes yesterday. If he was the angel he could've immediately hammered. So you have to think either I am PAF's wolf partner, or else I knew he wasn't the angel for a different reason.
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theyounggun Ex Member	Re: Werewolves Game D2 Reply #459 - 04/20/17 at 13:16:14 Not a home right now. I really want to look into a paf diamond wolf team later. Also good freaking job witch, pretty sick no one died. Also Dan is a lot more likely town unless he is like maf with TvK somehow and pulling tricks at eod... but for now I want to look at paf diamond.
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Diamond Legend Offline Roasted 2942 Statisticians	Re: Werewolves Game D2 Reply #460 - 04/20/17 at 13:31:43 @TYG what makes you think that I'm a wolf. I'm honestly beginning to get scummy thoughts about Timur. He's barely been active in this game so far.
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Reply #461 - 04/20/17 at 14:16:38

Diamond wrote on 04/20/17 at 13:31:43:

@TYG what makes you think that I'm a wolf. I'm honestly beginning to get scummy thoughts about Timur. He's barely been active in this game so far.

Idk it was just that vote at the start of the game feels like you probably felt pressured to do it in someway to look good, not necessarily because he looked scummy to you. And a couple of other things don't give me the greatest feeling. I'll reread d1 when I get home. But out of you and PAF I'm more concerned about him for now

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Reply #462 - 04/20/17 at 14:41:16

Hm.... a quick read of some of the D1 posts gave me some ideas but I'm not sure they're relevant, there isn't even a point in posting them yet. I haven't properly analyzed any of my suspects, they're still neutral to me. I guess the real work is due tomorrow.
In the meantime, I want to know everyone's opinion on TvK and Zwiebel (including them on each other). Specially Zwiebel, I don't think he was given enough attention. I'm certain at least one of them is wolf (since I only have 3 suspects). Don't let these guys slide so easily. Reminder: in the first game I played they were both maf and played like decent townies on D1.
See ya in 13 hours or so.

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Reply #463 - 04/20/17 at 14:50:34

P.A.F.625 wrote on 04/20/17 at 14:41:16:

Hm.... a quick read of some of the D1 posts gave me some ideas but I'm not sure they're relevant, there isn't even a point in posting them yet. I haven't properly analyzed any of my suspects, they're still neutral to me. I guess the real work is due tomorrow.
In the meantime, I want to know everyone's opinion on TvK and Zwiebel (including them on each other). Specially Zwiebel, I don't think he was given enough attention. I'm certain at least one of them is wolf (since I only have 3 suspects). Don't let these guys slide so easily. Reminder: in the first game I played they were both maf and played like decent townies on D1.
See ya in 13 hours or so.

And they were also both late to joining on d1. And it seems like they're also late joining on d2

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Hugo wrote on 07/31/17 at 15:13:47:

Well, it would be like rolling a die and it landing tails every time. After every roll the chance of it being tails becomes less and less, because eventually it will land on heads.

JawsTheShark wrote on 10/17/18 at 14:10:09:

Walter is Australian, right?

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Reply #464 - 04/20/17 at 18:37:27

P.A.F.625 wrote on 04/20/17 at 10:48:08:

Flo, I thought you were going to make a post one hour before the day started...? Eh whatever.

Okay, so, believe it or not, I think the odds of Dan being angel (now vanilla townie) are at least 80%. Who else could have been angel? I got stressed while trying to decide and let myself get influenced by ALAK too easily somehow.
(I find it weird how he went against his plan so much, though, it seemed fine to me. But there's point discussing that now).
So now we're 4 vs 2 without the schizo. We can still win. If we mislynch today we have to hope the witch gets it right tho...
I see Diamond as noob town so the choice (for me) is between TYG, TvK and Zwiebel, all of which are basically neutral to me...........

Could you once again quote the posts that make you think Diamond is noob town? On my watch, he still seems to be the second most scummiest (altough I must say I have let Zwiebel slip by for the most of D1, I'll look into him later today). I'm stll very annoyed by the fact that the wagon on you disappeared for no apparent reason except for Dan's vote. At this very moment I feel pretty comfortable to put my vote on PAF. ALAK is confirmed town by now. Dan is as close as we'll get to a confirmed townie (I cannot see anyone else being Angel at his point). Of the remaining people (Diamond, TYG and Zwiebel), TYG seems like the most likely to be town at this point. This all adds up to pretty much all of my townreads (or confirmed towns by now) jumping on PAF on D1. I feel confident in this vote:

[vote]PAF[/vote]

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theyounggun Ex Member	Re: Werewolves Game D2 Reply #465 - 04/20/17 at 18:40:03 Yeah, PAF has to be wolf here. I just want to look through potential partners. I'd guess Diamond, but I'll have to look into that.
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Reply #466 - 04/20/17 at 18:41:23

Diamond wrote on 04/20/17 at 14:50:34:

P.A.F.625 wrote on 04/20/17 at 14:41:16:

Hm.... a quick read of some of the D1 posts gave me some ideas but I'm not sure they're relevant, there isn't even a point in posting them yet. I haven't properly analyzed any of my suspects, they're still neutral to me. I guess the real work is due tomorrow.
In the meantime, I want to know everyone's opinion on TvK and Zwiebel (including them on each other). Specially Zwiebel, I don't think he was given enough attention. I'm certain at least one of them is wolf (since I only have 3 suspects). Don't let these guys slide so easily. Reminder: in the first game I played they were both maf and played like decent townies on D1.
See ya in 13 hours or so.

And they were also both late to joining on d1. And it seems like they're also late joining on d2

What do you want to say with this? Do you think I'm scummy for turning up late to this day? If you want to say something with these kind of quotes, I suggest you do so right now. If you feel the need to explicitly say this kind of statement, does this mean that I am one of your top scureads just for showing up late? If not, who is your top scumread? And what do you think if the fact that IsaaK flipped town after you voted him? Does that make you rethink all of the reads you had before? Or did you just expect IsaaK to flip town and you're just trying to find your way onto another easy wagon to get another mislynch?

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Reply #467 - 04/20/17 at 18:45:28

LewisRichards wrote on 04/20/17 at 18:40:03:

Yeah, PAF has to be wolf here. I just want to look through potential partners. I'd guess Diamond, but I'll have to look into that.

I'll admit that I haven't looked hard to find a partner for PAF. Until now, my reads have been pretty much separated from eachother, not looking for any connections between potential mafia partners. The thing I am quite scared of is that once again Zwiebel has been pretty much quite the entire D1 and he was unable to show anywhere near the end of day. When I was Zwiebel's mafia partner in the second game hosted by Shock, he showed a similar kind of behaviour. It is 4:43 am though at my place so I definitely will look into Diamond and Zwiebel when I wake up tomorrow. I hope you will at least do the same thing with the people I just mentioned.

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Reply #468 - 04/20/17 at 19:46:51

Diamond wrote on 04/18/17 at 13:03:45:

[vote]DansGame[/vote]

First post from Diamond here. There has to be some reason he felt he had to conform to the rest. Possible he was just trying to fit in with the attack on Dan, or maybe he had a wolf buddy on the wagon already, which could potentially be PAF.

Diamond wrote on 04/18/17 at 13:32:30:

DansGame wrote on 04/18/17 at 13:27:31:

Definitely, the fact that I wasn't mafia the last few games makes it more likely that I roll it this time. That's definitely how it works.

It would be like rolling a die and it landing tails every time. After every roll the chance of it being tails becomes less and less, because eventually it will land on heads.

Had to include this for the memes.

IsaaK. wrote on 04/18/17 at 13:43:56:

I'm going to turn in now. Will post my reads;

Dan-after his interaction with other people I have a slight town lean
Diamond- still a bit odd. May be inexperienced town
ALAK- neutral. His interaction with PAF is a bit strange, going on still about something unimportant
PAF- see above
TYG- hasn't really posted much. Neutral for now

Night everyone

Reads by someone confirmed town. Might be useful, but there's not actually an above for PAF and he's unsure about Diamond, but from the looks of this it's the closest thing to a wolf read there.

END OF PAGE 3, STILL NO INTERACTION BETWEEN DIAMOND AND PAF DESPITE BOTH OF THEM HOLDING VOTES ON DAN

TvK wrote on 04/19/17 at 03:12:59:

The worst thing about the entire discussion on page 3 is that we have filled an entire page without doing any kind of scumhunting. The people I have my eye on at this point are Diamond and PAF. Diamond's only contributions so far are his vote on Dan and his two cents in the discussion about odds. As for PAF? I don't like the ay he tried to justify his reasoning behind unvoting Dan. He was perfectly fine with staying on Dan when there were no other votes on him, but once there were three votes on Dan, PAF tried to look for a good reason to unvote Dan. And then all of a sudden, it looked like PAF finally remembered that there was an angel role in the game and that that would be a legit reason to move his vote away from Dan. Not to mention that once Dan did have 3 votes on him, that's when PAF decided to say that his first vote indeed was random.

I'll start here:

[vote]PAF[/vote]

TVK's thoughts of PAF and Diamond

P.A.F.625 wrote on 04/19/17 at 06:58:41:

Here we go again. You're looking at my posts assuming I'm wolf for no reason and making me look suspect as much as you can even though what I did was perfectly natural for a townie. Sounds familiar... Roll Eyes

Ah who am I kidding. You could do this as town. But I don't want to let you get off so easily.....

PAF calling TvK scummy for voting him here, also sounding pretty defensive, still hasn't mentioned diamond this game which is interesting since pretty much everyone but PAF (and Zweibel at this point also) has commented on Diamond's terrible first post and gambling logic, which is where I think the real connection here is. Perhaps wolf PAF didn't want to add to the pressure of wolfbuddy Diamond?

Also these Rambi Attack edits are amazing Shock

DansGame wrote on 04/19/17 at 08:23:09:

At this point here are my reads.

Town leans:
TYG - like his contributions
Diamond - like how he wasn't afraid to say things as a new player even when they were bad

Neutral:
Alaktorn - I would like to think that he could reconsider about me after being defensive town in that one game, but he is Alaktorn and always seems to agree with TvK and not me D1. Too early to say for sure
PAF - know I read him slight town earlier but based on my reads of other people I'm not sure.
Zwiebel - tick tock...

Wolf leans:
IsaaK - for reasons expressed earlier
TvK - for reasons to be expressed later

Thought these reads might be relevant since Dan is likely town. @Dan do you still feel like TvK is wolf?

DansGame wrote on 04/19/17 at 08:26:58:

Admittedly I don't have a great reason to think PAF is wolf, but he hasn't done anything to make me think he is town either.

kinda relevant

P.A.F.625 wrote on 04/19/17 at 10:54:29:

TvK wrote on 04/19/17 at 10:14:21:

PAF, I can understand your thoughts on Dan being the angel, but that is literally the only thing you have talked about since you received 4 votes. What do you think of ALAK and TYG's votes on you? What are your reads on them?

ALAK is my strongest town lean since he seems to try to scumhunt more than anyone (except you?) and doesn't mind being aggressive. It's how he acts when he's town. He seems to have gotten persuaded by your arguments, but that doesn't amaze me or change my read. He already had a slight maf lean on me anyway.
Not really sure about TYG; I think he's made some nice contributions and suspected me for reasons I would expect a townie to think of. Weird how he defended Dan for a bit, though, not sure how to interpret that. I seriously doubt they're both scum (I think Dan is town anyway). Pocketing? Doesn't seem likely. I have slight town lean on him.

This means there's a good chance that the wagon on me, a townie, is 100% town..... could the wolves have been waiting for town to self-destruct, like it's happening, and stay "hidden"?

Also, my other reads:
Dan - angel
TvK - can't read you lol
Zwiebel - not enough posts
IsaaK - neutral
Diamond - slight town lean

who the fuck am I supposed to vote..........

finally first mention of the other from PAF/Diamond and it's a town read!

P.A.F.625 wrote on 04/19/17 at 14:32:34:

ALAKTORN wrote on 04/19/17 at 14:21:37:

PAF YOU LITTLE SHIT DON’T YOU GO TO SLEEP WITHOUT DISCUSSING D2 LYNCH FIRST

LOL MY SIDES Smiley

Anyway, seems TYG is the best lynch for this day, even though there's a great chance he's town...
[vote]TYG[/vote]
He seems to be unlikely to be w/w with Dan or IsaaK, so if he flips town at least we get info.
As for Dan..... ugh..... he's like 50% Angel-50% Wolf. I can agree to lynch him D2. The thing is, if he's angel he still has to try to get himself lynched, so continuing to act like a retard doesn't make him wolf.
On the other hand... I can see your point, maybe he would tone down a bit as angel.
so...........fine lynch him D2
(btw IsaaK acts like I did in my first game as town, one of the reasons I don't want to lynch him).
I'll be here for another 10 minutes then bye.

PAF joins the alak wagon on me for no real reason... wtf... still has only mentioned diamond as a town read in this game in the quote I posted... only time one has mentioned the other... seriously idk how...

Diamond wrote on 04/19/17 at 14:38:18:

If I had to pick a D2 lynch right now I would have to say PAF, but again not certain that this is who I am going to choose on D2

First time Diamond mentions PAF... interesting hasn't said a single thing about him... coached into doing this? Doesn't even end up voting PAF lol

Diamond wrote on 04/19/17 at 14:39:43:

My second pick would probably be TYG for D2

Kinda joining the weird wagon on me...

PAF has no comment about Diamond's potential vote on him

LewisRichards wrote on 04/19/17 at 14:44:27:

DansGame wrote on 04/19/17 at 14:37:45:

P.A.F.625 wrote on 04/19/17 at 14:32:34:

Anyway, seems TYG is the best lynch for this day, even though there's a great chance he's town...

If you think TYG is town find someone scummy to lynch instead

This is why PAF is scummy lol, doesn't have any reads. PAF Isaak team totally possible

P.A.F.625 wrote on 04/19/17 at 14:49:38:

Okay, I'm out now.
TYG.... screw you. Scum reading me because I'm unable to read as good as some people, lol nice.

lol, what a response

TvK wrote on 04/19/17 at 16:01:27:

[vote]PAF[/vote]

I seriously also need a lot more pressure on Diamond as well tomorrow. He now resorts to totally hiding behind the noob card. This is something that reminds me a lot of Bradon in the second game or even Yoshistar in the third game. We can't let something like that slip past us.

TvK mentioning PAF and diamond has his wolf reads again

Diamond wrote on 04/19/17 at 17:47:52:

LewisRichards wrote on 04/19/17 at 17:33:35:

Diamond wrote on 04/19/17 at 17:31:16:

ALAKTORN wrote on 04/19/17 at 17:29:41:

Brett, Shock, and 46 all had above or close to 100 posts on D1 of their respective games. You guys are fucking pathetic.

Isn't this a smaller game than usual though?

Yeah he just hasn't been eating enough gelato.

While you're here... what are your thoughts on paf and Isaak? What do you think of my posts about them specifically?

I think that Isaak is inexperienced (like me. Hopefully TvK doesn't get mad that I'm playing the inexperienced card again) and I don't agree with you that Isaak is a wolf. I think he just accidentally said some stuff that made him look like scum. But I agree with you about paf being a wolf, just not on the part that he's paired up with Isaak.

Interesting... still no vote on PAF despite him "thinking he's wolf"

In conclusion, Diamond never voted PAF. Neither of them ever talked to each other. Lastly and most interesting of all, PAF no comment on diamond's stupid first post and rng logic despite pretty much everyone else commenting on that. If I had to guess now, this is the wolf team, can't be certain on this though.

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J-Cop Legend Offline The Jon Coppernoll of MKSC helped 5750 people Wisconsin, USA Gender:	Re: Werewolves Game D2 Reply #471 - 04/20/17 at 20:55:19 DansGame wrote on 04/20/17 at 20:44:53: Can someone tell me when this day ends? I've been very busy and I will be tomorrow too. Fant0m wrote on 04/20/17 at 11:13:24: The day will last one hour more then. Day will end at 8:30AM GMT If my math is correct, that's roughly 27 hours from now
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Reply #473 - 04/20/17 at 22:35:07

Here's the official post for Day 2 (sorry for the delay) :

Night 1 is over.
First, I want to say something about what happened yesterday. I’ll say this in a general way without pointing anyone in particular:

First of all, I want to apologize for not having stayed awake until the end of the day. I had a long day at work and I was exhausted. Furthermore, I didn’t expect people on this forum to behave so badly, especially since I thought I was being clear enough about the rules.
In a mature and well-behaved community, Hosts shouldn’t have to read each post, nor each page carefully to make sure all rules are respected. You guys are expected to follow the rules and keep us informed privately if any player is breaking those rules, so that we can take necessary actions.

Furthermore, I was told that some modkill rules were missing but they seemed all logic and implicit to me and I want to thank Shock for the great moderation he did and for all the time he wasted while I was asleep. I will not tolerate anymore waste of time from the hosts. Therefore, if the same things happens a second time, the game will be canceled and the waste of time will only be on your side.

This said, no one died on N1

PAF starts the day with 1 vote against him

And Day 2 will end in exactly 25 hours.
However, I may or may not make it last a couple hours longer, depending on the activity.

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Reply #474 - 04/21/17 at 03:56:42

Diamond, do all of your reads come from activity or the lack thereof? Although I must agree that Zwiebel's inactivity is bothering me (hello there's only 6 of us left), there's also 19 pages of posts in all. Is there nothing else you have to report on that? For example, what happened to your scumread of Dan, the person you have been voting pretty much the entire first day? What made you suddenly change your mind on IsaaK, who now is confirmed town? You were calling him town all day long and your reasons for eventually voting him were the exact same reasons which made him at first seem town in your eyes. I feel like there are a lot of indiciations that point towards a loosely coached newbwolf here.

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