IsaaK. wrote on 04/18/17 at 12:01:12:Dan I feel like you're acting different from other games I've spectated. We haven't even reached the 2nd page yet you're acting very defensive. I'm not going to put you on a side because it's so early on into the game.
First thing he says in the game, with already 2 votes on Dan at that point. Rather than talking about why people voted Dan, he just further puts more pressure on him possibly backing up one of his wolf buddies. Keep in mind his argument is a metagame argument too, so it basically just sounds like he's looking for an excuse to back up the vote on him.
IsaaK. wrote on 04/18/17 at 13:36:40:DansGame wrote on 04/18/17 at 13:32:58:I actually think Diamond is more likely to be inexperienced town. IsaaK strikes me as more wolfish, fine with talking but afraid to push too hard in any one direction yet.
Remember we're only three hours into the game. I don't want to push hard because not enough has been said. Two people haven't even posted yet.
Seems a bit hypocritical to me based off of his support in the 1 page attack against Dan earlier.
IsaaK. wrote on 04/18/17 at 13:43:56:I'm going to turn in now. Will post my reads;
Dan-after his interaction with other people I have a slight town lean
Diamond- still a bit odd. May be inexperienced town
ALAK- neutral. His interaction with PAF is a bit strange, going on still about something unimportant
PAF- see above
TYG- hasn't really posted much. Neutral for now
Night everyone
Decides to post his reads right after his previous comment about only being 3 hours into the game but whatever. "PAF - see above" wtf dies this mean, this is the first time you mention PAF, and the above post is Alak explaining RNG to Diamond.
At this point where the main interaction were Dan and PAF it just seems odd he hasn't mentioned PAF once.
P.A.F.625 wrote on 04/18/17 at 14:38:44:I would like to get attention towards Dan again.
As some pointed out, it's weird he's so getting so frustrated and defensive so early in the game. Like, most of his posts were defensive. Others posts were just showing town leans to other players.
Also, notice he just voted ALAK without much explanation? I'm guessing due to his aggressiveness. But that's not a good excuse. Also he had a fucking town lean on him before.
This is so fishy I don't think he's wolf... he may be the angel.
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I'll let you guys think about this. I'm going to sleep. Don't expect me to post in the next 17 hours (earlier is possible but don't count on it).
PAF decides to start to pressure Dan I guess? But in a more subtle way? The angel accusation just seems odd to me. I did not even come close to thinking that Dan was trying to get lynched on purpose but all right.
IsaaK. wrote on 04/19/17 at 04:31:41:DansGame wrote on 04/19/17 at 03:27:05:TvK wrote on 04/19/17 at 03:20:44:DansGame wrote on 04/19/17 at 03:17:02:I think IsaaK is more likely wolf than Diamond. Not sure about PAF.
I'm definitely thinking about IsaaK as well. However, of Diamond and IsaaK I for now feel like IsaaK is looking more like the classic newbie villager. I hope he can react to my posts and my vote on PAF when he gets back to this thread.
I waaaaayyyyyyy disagree with you here. Did you see Diamond's posts about how I'm more likely red because I haven't rolled it in awhile, then continuing to completely not understand gambler's fallacy? He's definitely not scared to just say shit. IsaaK on the other hand has been very tepid with pushing in a direction. This makes him much more likely to be red IMO and defenitely not the angel.
I hope you realise this is my first game on this thread. Don't you think I would be coached how to play well? I am a very cautious person in general and don't like to take risks.
TVK, I will look back on PAF and his interaction with other people.
weird excuse... should have seen my first game where I was coached...
IsaaK. wrote on 04/19/17 at 04:39:32:TvK wrote on 04/19/17 at 02:51:17:IsaaK. wrote on 04/18/17 at 13:10:29:@TYG: i didn't like the way Dan was acting more defensive than previous starts of a game. That being said ALAK is keen to start on people which is off
Who do you think will be the most likely to start on people? The wolf who's trying to stay out of the spotlight and who wants to just slide along? Or the villager whose strongest weapon is the lynch with which they want to kill wolves?
ALAK jumped on PAF for a joke vote
PAF, why are you keeping your vote on Dan? Any reasons for this?
Finally mentions PAF for the first time... I don't know how it took 5 pages since him and Dan's interactions are the reason he also put pressure on Dan. Keep in mind this is after the first vote on PAF, perhaps asking a setup question to give PAF a chance to defend himself?
IsaaK. wrote on 04/19/17 at 10:13:27:TvK wrote on 04/19/17 at 09:40:18:[vote]Unvote[/vote]
Wow, this is going way too fast for my liking.
DansGame wrote on 04/19/17 at 07:57:40:TvK and IsaaK are my biggest scum reads. Zwiebel too for not posting but he seems to show up late every game.
DansGame wrote on 04/19/17 at 08:26:58:Admittedly I don't have a great reason to think PAF is wolf, but he hasn't done anything to make me think he is town either.
Why do you think you haven't been able to convince people to follow you onto IsaaK? And I must agree with PAF on your vote. Even if PAF were your top scumread, don't you think it's incredibly dangerous to just put him at L-1 halfway through the day when not even everyone has come in to the thread? Heck, I would even be happier if you would have just put your vote on me and explained your reasoning behind that instead of voting for the main wagon even when he's not among your top scumreads.
This is coming to me now. Notice how no one is backing you [directed at Dan] up on me? If I were the obvious scum you're portraying me to be, then don't you think others will follow you as you are an experienced player? Not to mention the defensiveness in the first few pages. I can't let my vote go to waste.
[vote]DansGame[/vote]TVK, to answer your question about my reads I think you are my strongest townlean. Because of the way ALAK interacted with Dan I think he's town as well.
All of a sudden 3 or 4 votes on PAF and despite PAF not answering his earlier question... Dan vote appears out of nowhere!
IsaaK. wrote on 04/19/17 at 10:27:12:As for PAF, he strange. One moment disagreeing with Dan next moment agreeing with him. I can see in my mind them being a wolf pair.
I don't even know what this is, but it's one of the only times he mentions PAF.
P.A.F.625 wrote on 04/19/17 at 10:55:30:IsaaK. wrote on 04/19/17 at 10:27:12:As for PAF, he strange. One moment disagreeing with Dan next moment agreeing with him. I can see in my mind them being a wolf pair.
Must I always (dis)agree with a certain person? lol
PAF mentions Isaak for the first time this game, and it's kind of an irrelevant conversation it feels like.
In conclusion, there is actually such a low amount of interactions between the 2 that that alone seems pretty scummy to me, and the only interaction they had there was like nothing there... some retarded pressure where he somehow thinks PAF and Dan could be maf? idk, but I feel like this is the most likely wolf pair rn.
TYG does not make this post as mafia unless he's coached.
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