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Reply #75 - 01/07/17 at 22:08:00
 
Or to restate that question....... what do you think of the people who have and haven't posted yet
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Reply #76 - 01/07/17 at 22:10:31
 
See above post...it's hard to think much of those who haven't posted yet, given that the day started at a late time for most of us.
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Reply #77 - 01/07/17 at 22:14:28
 
DansGame wrote on 01/07/17 at 22:07:02:
Considering that Vinnie, while not the strongest of players, is usually very active, I can buy for now that he did know by the topic votes that there was no executioner. I thought it was weird that neither J-Cop nor Web really commented on the whole discussion between 42 and I despite being here. Considering Web seems to have been paying more attention but still avoided the discussion, he's my scummiest read so far but not much to go off of yet.

I have a null read on 42 so far. He could have been town reacting to the game by grilling me, or mafia trying to shut down my reaction test/generally trying to find a mislynch today.


For people being busy (like myself) it's visible for people to do stuff in a way like that so they don't have to rebuttal or answer to someone when they are doing something or trying to sleep but if to be left for a while shows bad scores in my experiences
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Reply #78 - 01/07/17 at 22:14:58
 
DansGame wrote on 01/07/17 at 22:10:31:
See above post...it's hard to think much of those who haven't posted yet, given that the day started at a late time for most of us.

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Reply #79 - 01/07/17 at 22:16:04
 
☆ᓂ wrote on 01/07/17 at 22:14:28:
DansGame wrote on 01/07/17 at 22:07:02:
Considering that Vinnie, while not the strongest of players, is usually very active, I can buy for now that he did know by the topic votes that there was no executioner. I thought it was weird that neither J-Cop nor Web really commented on the whole discussion between 42 and I despite being here. Considering Web seems to have been paying more attention but still avoided the discussion, he's my scummiest read so far but not much to go off of yet.

I have a null read on 42 so far. He could have been town reacting to the game by grilling me, or mafia trying to shut down my reaction test/generally trying to find a mislynch today.


For people being busy (like myself) it's visible for people to do stuff in a way like that so they don't have to rebuttal or answer to someone when they are doing something or trying to sleep but if to be left for a while shows bad scores in my experiences


I can't understand what you're saying, could you rephrase?
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Reply #80 - 01/07/17 at 22:20:57
 
DansGame wrote on 01/07/17 at 22:16:04:
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DansGame wrote on 01/07/17 at 22:07:02:
Considering that Vinnie, while not the strongest of players, is usually very active, I can buy for now that he did know by the topic votes that there was no executioner. I thought it was weird that neither J-Cop nor Web really commented on the whole discussion between 42 and I despite being here. Considering Web seems to have been paying more attention but still avoided the discussion, he's my scummiest read so far but not much to go off of yet.

I have a null read on 42 so far. He could have been town reacting to the game by grilling me, or mafia trying to shut down my reaction test/generally trying to find a mislynch today.


For people being busy (like myself) it's visible for people to do stuff in a way like that so they don't have to rebuttal or answer to someone when they are doing something or trying to sleep but if to be left for a while shows bad scores in my experiences


I can't understand what you're saying, could you rephrase?

Sorry if my language is bad  Tongue had a problem with writing/speaking when I was young so it hinders me but, I try to follow through with it ......

Some people have time schedules that are hectic and leave posts like those so they could answer later
The only times I've seen where this is problematic is when many are just inactive .......

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Reply #81 - 01/07/17 at 22:25:07
 
As for your experience..... what do you think of inactive players in general
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Re: Mafia: Day 1
Reply #82 - 01/07/17 at 23:24:50
 
Ah crap didn't realize the day started today. Completely forgot, probably just memes but I'll read through anyway. Anyone else online rn Btw?
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Reply #83 - 01/07/17 at 23:40:20
 
☆ᓂ wrote on 01/07/17 at 22:25:07:
As for your experience..... what do you think of inactive players in general


Responding to this first since it's the closest thing I can quote lol.

Innactive players have been quite hard to read in past games, the show up and only make a post a day lol. I can check based on what what I would say is an accurate range for inncactive, if people want me to, but I think it's actually been about 50/50ish (town/maf). The main thing to watch out for on the other hand is formerly active players being innactive, then maybe you can get a read off of that if anyone does that. Also just throwing it out there that it is still only mid d1... sooo I wouldn't really define anyone as innactive at this point. Maybe after 2 days or even near eod1?
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Re: Mafia: Day 1
Reply #84 - 01/07/17 at 23:43:14
 
DansGame wrote on 01/07/17 at 22:07:02:
I thought it was weird that neither J-Cop nor Web really commented on the whole discussion between 42 and I despite being here.

I've been online, but I haven't been "here" much since the game started.

You say you were setting a little trap by asking if there is an executioner.  Perhaps Vinnie fell for the trap, but I think he was just answering the question for the sake of being helpful.  Him answering your question doesn't make him look scummy to me.

I don't know anything about 42 besides what he's told us in this thread, so I don't know what to think about his reaction to your executioner question.  I didn't see anything wrong with your post, so to me it's a bit of a red flag that he prodded at you so much for it.  But on the other hand, it could be his experience talking.  If he's played as much as he claims he has, then he's going to pick up on slips that don't stand out as much to me.  I'll need to see more of how he reacts to people before I'll have a strong read on him.
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Re: Mafia: Day 1
Reply #85 - 01/07/17 at 23:47:43
 
I'm going to be out of town until late tomorrow night, and I won't have time to read or post anything until I get home.  I might be able to get online for a few minutes before I leave in the morning, but it's not likely.
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Re: Mafia: Day 1
Reply #86 - 01/07/17 at 23:50:23
 
I personally don't get a read on Dan or 42 from their exchange, even though there was a lot said there. The whole executioner thing was weird... I think !townVinnie is pretty much just as likely as !mafVinnie to answer the executioner question. But perhaps maybe Dan was on to something with the idea?? Kinda gives me a small town lean on him I guess, I actually have no idea about 42 though lol. Can't metagame him rip playstyle info... so yeah.
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Reply #87 - 01/07/17 at 23:51:33
 
How much longer will you be online now? I'm dead tired but I can stay up for a littlrle bit more.
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Reply #88 - 01/07/17 at 23:57:16
 
Says you're online but I'm gonna sleep at 3 if you don't say anything lol
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Reply #89 - 01/07/17 at 23:58:26
 
I'm not staying on any longer, I'm leaving home in exactly 8 hours and I need my beauty sleep Tongue
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Reply #90 - 01/07/17 at 23:59:38
 
Alright lol, gonna sleep now also then
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Reply #91 - 01/08/17 at 00:26:39
 
Heading off , Good night and luck to all! Cheesy
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Reply #92 - 01/08/17 at 03:17:26
 
Vinnie927 wrote on 01/07/17 at 20:16:18:
Zac, TYG, and Racer727 hadn't played mafia before 2016. I hadn't played this form of mafia until 2016, but I was familiar with a similar version since 2011.


Vinnie, why did you choose to answer the (easy) question of who was experienced or not instead of joining the discussion between 42 and Dan about how we should read Dan's question on the executioner? Didn't you think that that was a bit more important?

DansGame wrote on 01/07/17 at 22:07:02:
Considering that Vinnie, while not the strongest of players, is usually very active, I can buy for now that he did know by the topic votes that there was no executioner. I thought it was weird that neither J-Cop nor Web really commented on the whole discussion between 42 and I despite being here. Considering Web seems to have been paying more attention but still avoided the discussion, he's my scummiest read so far but not much to go off of yet.

I have a null read on 42 so far. He could have been town reacting to the game by grilling me, or mafia trying to shut down my reaction test/generally trying to find a mislynch today.


I actually agree with you on a lot of points here. However, the only thing about Vinnie knowing about the executioner is the fact that he didn't know that Yoshistar wasn't in the game.

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Zac, please, you know fully well by now that mafia isn't about waiting for someone to ask you a question. Get your ass out there and start asking the questions.
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Reply #93 - 01/08/17 at 03:22:27
 
☆ᓂ wrote on 01/07/17 at 22:25:07:
As for your experience..... what do you think of inactive players in general


In general, I think they shouldn't sign up. But in-game, only mafia benefits from inactive players. Every kind of inactivity is anti-town. Mafia can use inactivity to stay out of the spotlight. Inactive town members are not hunting for mafia.
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Reply #94 - 01/08/17 at 03:27:53
 
LewisRichards wrote on 01/07/17 at 23:24:50:
Ah crap didn't realize the day started today. Completely forgot, probably just memes but I'll read through anyway. Anyone else online rn Btw?


Why exactly do you need others to be online? I thought the whole point of playing forum mafia is that the game can move along when nobody else is online. What if for example I had been online at this time, would you have been asking questions to me? Or waiting for me to ask you questions?

LewisRichards wrote on 01/07/17 at 23:50:23:
I personally don't get a read on Dan or 42 from their exchange, even though there was a lot said there. The whole executioner thing was weird... I think !townVinnie is pretty much just as likely as !mafVinnie to answer the executioner question. But perhaps maybe Dan was on to something with the idea?? Kinda gives me a small town lean on him I guess, I actually have no idea about 42 though lol. Can't metagame him rip playstyle info... so yeah.


And I just wanted to comment on this. I'm glad that two new players are joining us for this game. Metagaming is a strong weapon when applied correctly, but all I've ever seen from metagaming on this forum is that people are way busier looking at previous games to see if there might be the smallest of changes in someone's gameplay, instead of paying close attention to what people are saying.
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Reply #95 - 01/08/17 at 03:29:57
 
Anyway, the great Shock gave me a vote, might as well use it.

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Reply #96 - 01/08/17 at 06:08:19
 
Are day ones usually like this? Quieter than expected.

Leone, Lenny, Lafungo, and Racer727 have yet to make any posts.

Dan is the person I had the most interaction with, clearly. I have a town lean on him, but he seems to be the type of guy who would be the alpha male of a mafia team. I am hesitant at this early stage to give him more than a town lean.

Upon reading vinnie’s posts, they do rub me the wrong way. None of his posts are taking a stance on anything, just mostly answering questions I have had about the metagame here. That’s fine and all, but it is an easy way to up your number of posts while at the same time his effective contribution has been zilch. Obviously the game is still early but if this guy has experience like you all say he does then I am going to be expecting more from him.

TvK has a lot of similar thoughts to me, when I first read the thread I had lots of similar problems. Problems such as Zac not wanting to be the conversation starter, Vinnie taking the high road answering questions that are easy to answer. Lean town on him. At least Zac seems to be putting forth an effort to solve the game. Vinnie up to now has not. Would like to hear more from TvK this game because my vibes tell me he has experience and knows what he is doing. Just the way he talks I can pick up on that.

J-Cop, I think you will figure out soon enough that I have experience, and have played the game before. If my posting style does not give away that I am not a rookie then maybe in due time you will. But this is not my first game. As for Dan’s post which I talked about quite a lot, I don’t often see posts like that from experienced towns. I didn’t think to post anything of the sort because I knew there was not an executioner.

I am happy I mentioned the post and talked to Dan about it though, I think it got the game moving a bit out of RVS.

I assume TYG is theyounggun, how experienced is he?

No opinion aorn on Web. Like Vinnie his effective participation has been close to nil.
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Reply #97 - 01/08/17 at 06:15:59
 
Back. 42 is giving me a very slight town lean as he's asked a bunch of basic questions about the forum that he (if he were maf) could have asked his mafia buds in private communications. I'm happy that he seems to have a lot of experience playing the game as sometimes
games here can suffer from player inexperience taking center stage.  

As for my thoughts on your posts with 42 Dan, I just read through the discussion again and didn't see that much to comment on. I initially read J-Cop's post as the joke it was, so I was a little confused when you asked if there was an executioner as I figured you'd be one of the posters paying the most attention to the rules/setup of the game. However, your "test" explanation makes sense to me, and it may have given the town something to work with its first response:

The most interesting thing to me about the exchange is that Vinnie responded 20 seconds after your post questioning if there was an executioner, which shows both impressive reaction time and absolute confidence that the role wasn't in the game. His double post coming in at #53 and #54 also reads pretty defensive for someone who only had a slight accusation against him. Vinnie is my strongest scumread right now.      
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Reply #98 - 01/08/17 at 06:23:23
 
also since I haven't yet stated my experience, I've played in maybe 6-7 games here, though some were years and years ago when I didn't quite grasp the concept. I'd probably give myself a 5 on the 1-10 scale of experience/skill.
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Reply #99 - 01/08/17 at 06:26:31
 
also just noticed the vote tracker is working and calibrated to the current game, so here's the link if anyone doesn't feel like going back a page: http://www.mariokart64.com/mk64/mafiashock.cgi
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