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Reply #775 -
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That's 4 votes on 42.
In case I'm not online and someone sees it happen, the Day ends immediately if 6 votes are reached, and at that point I would ask everyone to stop posting.
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I doubt Web was trying to set that up, way too risky depending on how many night actions get claimed...
Except Shock already outed 4 night actions. If Web is mafia he knows 2 of them came from scum, so he can just use the scum's night action to cover for his own "cop" action. So that theory holds no water.
Just for clarity: I forgot to report the number of night actions when announcing the start of Day 2. Web's first post of Day 2 precedes the time at which I revealed the total number of Night abilities used.
Exactly but this doesn't even matter. Even if there were 10 actions Web could hide under maf's redirect and there's no conflict with actions. Thanks for the clarification!
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I'm really in an "as long as it's not me" mindset now. I'd have the same mindset as scum or as town so I don't think my current mindset is really alignment indicative.
If you had the opportunity to view your own play right now from outside the game, you'll realize that as town you would never think clearing yourself while giving mafia a free night kill by making a shot that is highly likely to be misdirected is a good thing.
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42 wrote
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Shock wrote
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42 wrote
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johnboy81918 wrote
on 01/10/17 at 19:35:18:
I doubt Web was trying to set that up, way too risky depending on how many night actions get claimed...
Except Shock already outed 4 night actions. If Web is mafia he knows 2 of them came from scum, so he can just use the scum's night action to cover for his own "cop" action. So that theory holds no water.
Just for clarity: I forgot to report the number of night actions when announcing the start of Day 2. Web's first post of Day 2 precedes the time at which I revealed the total number of Night abilities used.
Exactly but this doesn't even matter. Even if there were 10 actions Web could hide under maf's redirect and there's no conflict with actions. Thanks for the clarification!
And this is exactly what I am trying to say to the rest of you. Web hides under maf's redirect and claims he's doing a third town action which he knows didn't happen. You can replace third with fourth, fifth, sixth, etc. The only risk was if another cop scan had me town, or had Web mafia. But that's a small risk in comparison.
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Do you think Vinnie would never be redirected as town? He's basically 100% guaranteed N1 to use a night action. If Vinnie is mafia with Web it's sort of a suicidal move to out an innocent report on Web, they're sacrificing a whole lot of credibility just to get my lynch across. I think it's more likely they redirected Vinnie onto a town and his report's fake. I admit it's low, but it's the highest from my point of view.
What if Vinnie is scum?
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Re: Mafia: Day 2
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01/10/17 at 19:46:28
DansGame wrote
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42 wrote
on 01/10/17 at 19:35:15:
I'm really in an "as long as it's not me" mindset now. I'd have the same mindset as scum or as town so I don't think my current mindset is really alignment indicative.
If you had the opportunity to view your own play right now from outside the game, you'll realize that as town you would never think clearing yourself while giving mafia a free night kill by making a shot that is highly likely to be misdirected is a good thing.
Maybe if I didn't know my own alignment is town yes. But it's an irrelevant point, since I do. One town dies either way, whether I'm lynched, or I'm redirected. The amount of dead townies stays the same. And if mafia have to waste a redirect WHICH THEY MIGHT NOT EVEN HAVE ANYMORE to direct me to a townie that would be dead if you lynched me anyway, so be it.
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Re: Mafia: Day 2
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DansGame wrote
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42 wrote
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Why do you think he can't set himself up to out a guilty? If he decides it's not optimal to out a scan he can just dismiss it, and I doubt anyone picks up on him going to hint at a scan. I'm probably talking in a jumbled mess by now. It's certainly something I'd do if I was scum. If I decide to out a report I can use my "look guys I was softing it all day" as an excuse and if I decide not to out a report I can just pretend I didn't soft anything and just had an fos on X.
It's not that advanced of a play, really. I've seen better moves from first time players. Especially if he's being coached by someone.
It's possible that he could do that, but for you it should be a lot more likely that they are partners than that Vinnie is town and just so happened to scan Web and get redirected. The odds of all that happening are almost impossibly low.
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Do you think Vinnie would never be redirected as town? He's basically 100% guaranteed N1 to use a night action. If Vinnie is mafia with Web it's sort of a suicidal move to out an innocent report on Web, they're sacrificing a whole lot of credibility just to get my lynch across. I think it's more likely they redirected Vinnie onto a town and his report's fake. I admit it's low, but it's the highest from my point of view.
Do you think I have a higher chance to flip maf than J-Cop though? Really? There isn't a scenario where he's town. Give me one.
I gave you one before. You, TvK, Lenny(John)
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Re: Mafia: Day 2
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01/10/17 at 19:47:12
Mechanic clarification, again to ensure clarity: If someone attempts to Control another player, nothing happens if they do not attempt to use a Night ability. The Control will be used with no effect.
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Re: Mafia: Day 2
Reply #783 -
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johnboy81918 wrote
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42 wrote
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Do you think Vinnie would never be redirected as town? He's basically 100% guaranteed N1 to use a night action. If Vinnie is mafia with Web it's sort of a suicidal move to out an innocent report on Web, they're sacrificing a whole lot of credibility just to get my lynch across. I think it's more likely they redirected Vinnie onto a town and his report's fake. I admit it's low, but it's the highest from my point of view.
What if Vinnie is scum?
Possible, it's probably the only way town stands a chance this game. But I don't think it's likely. If he's scum I don't really think it's Web though, I think it's more likely at that point they redirected Web to a scum.
Vinnie/Web being scum would just be off the charts crazy. They would have had to have Web plan a guilty on me, Vinnie plan an innocent on Web, and for what? When I'm lynched and flip town and Vinnie flips maf Web's pretty much done for next. Sounds like an awful lot of firepower to sacrifice just to lynch me.
It's why I don't think they're both scum. And I think Web's more likely.
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Re: Mafia: Day 2
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DansGame wrote
on 01/10/17 at 19:47:02:
42 wrote
on 01/10/17 at 19:42:16:
DansGame wrote
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42 wrote
on 01/10/17 at 19:29:03:
Why do you think he can't set himself up to out a guilty? If he decides it's not optimal to out a scan he can just dismiss it, and I doubt anyone picks up on him going to hint at a scan. I'm probably talking in a jumbled mess by now. It's certainly something I'd do if I was scum. If I decide to out a report I can use my "look guys I was softing it all day" as an excuse and if I decide not to out a report I can just pretend I didn't soft anything and just had an fos on X.
It's not that advanced of a play, really. I've seen better moves from first time players. Especially if he's being coached by someone.
It's possible that he could do that, but for you it should be a lot more likely that they are partners than that Vinnie is town and just so happened to scan Web and get redirected. The odds of all that happening are almost impossibly low.
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Do you think Vinnie would never be redirected as town? He's basically 100% guaranteed N1 to use a night action. If Vinnie is mafia with Web it's sort of a suicidal move to out an innocent report on Web, they're sacrificing a whole lot of credibility just to get my lynch across. I think it's more likely they redirected Vinnie onto a town and his report's fake. I admit it's low, but it's the highest from my point of view.
Do you think I have a higher chance to flip maf than J-Cop though? Really? There isn't a scenario where he's town. Give me one.
I gave you one before. You, TvK, Lenny(John)
And what do you think the actual odds of this being the team are?
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42 wrote
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johnboy81918 wrote
on 01/10/17 at 19:45:24:
42 wrote
on 01/10/17 at 19:42:16:
Do you think Vinnie would never be redirected as town? He's basically 100% guaranteed N1 to use a night action. If Vinnie is mafia with Web it's sort of a suicidal move to out an innocent report on Web, they're sacrificing a whole lot of credibility just to get my lynch across. I think it's more likely they redirected Vinnie onto a town and his report's fake. I admit it's low, but it's the highest from my point of view.
What if Vinnie is scum?
Possible, it's probably the only way town stands a chance this game. But I don't think it's likely. If he's scum I don't really think it's Web though, I think it's more likely at that point they redirected Web to a scum.
Vinnie/Web being scum would just be off the charts crazy. They would have had to have Web plan a guilty on me, Vinnie plan an innocent on Web, and for what? When I'm lynched and flip town and Vinnie flips maf Web's pretty much done for next. Sounds like an awful lot of firepower to sacrifice just to lynch me.
It's why I don't think they're both scum. And I think Web's more likely.
So you think Dan is town then, based on your previous posts?
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01/10/17 at 19:52:07
42 wrote
on 01/10/17 at 19:49:43:
DansGame wrote
on 01/10/17 at 19:47:02:
42 wrote
on 01/10/17 at 19:42:16:
DansGame wrote
on 01/10/17 at 19:39:09:
42 wrote
on 01/10/17 at 19:29:03:
Why do you think he can't set himself up to out a guilty? If he decides it's not optimal to out a scan he can just dismiss it, and I doubt anyone picks up on him going to hint at a scan. I'm probably talking in a jumbled mess by now. It's certainly something I'd do if I was scum. If I decide to out a report I can use my "look guys I was softing it all day" as an excuse and if I decide not to out a report I can just pretend I didn't soft anything and just had an fos on X.
It's not that advanced of a play, really. I've seen better moves from first time players. Especially if he's being coached by someone.
It's possible that he could do that, but for you it should be a lot more likely that they are partners than that Vinnie is town and just so happened to scan Web and get redirected. The odds of all that happening are almost impossibly low.
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Do you think Vinnie would never be redirected as town? He's basically 100% guaranteed N1 to use a night action. If Vinnie is mafia with Web it's sort of a suicidal move to out an innocent report on Web, they're sacrificing a whole lot of credibility just to get my lynch across. I think it's more likely they redirected Vinnie onto a town and his report's fake. I admit it's low, but it's the highest from my point of view.
Do you think I have a higher chance to flip maf than J-Cop though? Really? There isn't a scenario where he's town. Give me one.
I gave you one before. You, TvK, Lenny(John)
And what do you think the actual odds of this being the team are?
TvK has plenty interactions with me, do you think they were m/m? Do you think I on day 2 would go immediately defending scum partner Lenny who made two posts?
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42, are your thoughts on lafungo [alaktorn] the same? think i am missing a part so i would like to know
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johnboy81918 wrote
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42 wrote
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johnboy81918 wrote
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Do you think Vinnie would never be redirected as town? He's basically 100% guaranteed N1 to use a night action. If Vinnie is mafia with Web it's sort of a suicidal move to out an innocent report on Web, they're sacrificing a whole lot of credibility just to get my lynch across. I think it's more likely they redirected Vinnie onto a town and his report's fake. I admit it's low, but it's the highest from my point of view.
What if Vinnie is scum?
Possible, it's probably the only way town stands a chance this game. But I don't think it's likely. If he's scum I don't really think it's Web though, I think it's more likely at that point they redirected Web to a scum.
Vinnie/Web being scum would just be off the charts crazy. They would have had to have Web plan a guilty on me, Vinnie plan an innocent on Web, and for what? When I'm lynched and flip town and Vinnie flips maf Web's pretty much done for next. Sounds like an awful lot of firepower to sacrifice just to lynch me.
It's why I don't think they're both scum. And I think Web's more likely.
So you think Dan is town then, based on your previous posts?
Like I said, I think they redirected Vinnie to a town and his Web scan is therefore compromised. If I'm wrong I get my answer in 12 hours anyway. I think Web is more likely scum than Dan, because Web!town also means he got redirected to a scum, which I feel is less likely than redirecting Vinnie to a town. And Dan's night action checks out. If Dan is maf it means Web was redirected to a maf.
When I had the opportunity to vote Web or Dan, I voted Web. Don't forget that.
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And what do you think the actual odds of this being the team are?
About as high as you being a mislynch?
Off to bed, I'll check in before EoD in the morning, but probably not for too long.
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42, are your thoughts on lafungo [alaktorn] the same? think i am missing a part so i would like to know
I hate to hold Lafungo's actions against ALAKTORN but ultimately they did it as the same alignment and role so yes. Web to me has higher mechanical confirmation and J-Cop is the only lynch that saves my ass, plus I don't think he's town regardless. J-Cop/Lafungo/Web, with probably you as the other. Unless it's Vinnie then I don't know what to think anymore.
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DansGame wrote
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42 wrote
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And what do you think the actual odds of this being the team are?
About as high as you being a mislynch?
Off to bed, I'll check in before EoD in the morning, but probably not for too long.
So not very high according to you. Therefore J-Cop is almost a certain scum.
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DansGame wrote
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42 wrote
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And what do you think the actual odds of this being the team are?
About as high as you being a mislynch?
Off to bed, I'll check in before EoD in the morning, but probably not for too long.
So not very high according to you. Therefore J-Cop is almost a certain scum.
I just gave you one possible team. I'm sure there are still quite a few others he could be in. Whereas the chance that you're actually town is really, really low.
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how long untill eod if majority isn't reached?
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Accidentally hit post again.
...if Vinnie is town as you believe now, the odds that he decided to check Web are 1 in 11. Everything else not withstanding, that is highly unlikely and you're basically starting by saying to us that we should consider that there's a less than 10% chance that you're town. You're obviously the best lynch for today.
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DansGame wrote
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42 wrote
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DansGame wrote
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42 wrote
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And what do you think the actual odds of this being the team are?
About as high as you being a mislynch?
Off to bed, I'll check in before EoD in the morning, but probably not for too long.
So not very high according to you. Therefore J-Cop is almost a certain scum.
I just gave you one possible team. I'm sure there are still quite a few others he could be in. Whereas the chance that you're actually town is really, really low.
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Accidentally hit post again.
...if Vinnie is town as you believe now, the odds that he decided to check Web are 1 in 11. Everything else not withstanding, that is highly unlikely and you're basically starting by saying to us that we should consider that there's a less than 10% chance that you're town. You're obviously the best lynch for today.
3 in 11 he checks mafia and clears them as a result of being redirected to a known town (mafia knows all town). Not that it makes my odds too much greater, I have said this numerous times I know I am facing a stacked deck. With him clearing a mafia, Web can use this opportunity to essentially frame me. Pretty masterful job by him, I applaud it. But I wish you guys weren't so close-minded about it.
Alternatively if you're mafia and redirected Web well fuck me.
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how long untill eod if majority isn't reached?
10 hours and 54 minutes from the time of this post.
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Probably heading to bed myself. I fully expect to wake up and be lynched. That's just the short end of the stick I get. It's been nice playing with you all even though I got lynched early.
And please for the love of god if Vinnie is town lynch 100% between Web and Dan tomorrow.
J-Cop is still mafia, don't see it being TvK and Lenny or some shit.
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Alternatively if you're mafia and redirected Web well fuck me.
I'd find it hard to believe that maf would have controlled anyone other than town!Vinnie last night. So I very strongly doubt that Web was controlled - I could believe that he's lying scum, but not a controlled townie imo.
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