Quikly going through Racer and Zwiebel's post to see what their reads were.
Racer727 wrote on 01/08/17 at 08:10:24:The problem with Zac, is that in his past mafia games, he's played like this the while time. Unsure of himself, waiting for others to confront him, says what he should do but never follows through, and gets himself a Maf lean. I'd wait on him for now and see if he slips up, because he's played like this before and has been town. As for my experience, I'd give myself a 3.5, this is my fourth Maf game that isnt town of Salem. (Which is really quite different.)
At least we can be sure that Racer's soft defence of Zac wasn't a case of defending a scumbuddy.
Racer727 wrote on 01/08/17 at 08:14:25:LewisRichards wrote on 01/08/17 at 08:10:37:Web wrote on 01/08/17 at 07:08:47:42 wrote on 01/08/17 at 07:01:38:Oh so it's that annoying way, there's no clean way to do it, understand.
I'm concerned web, your only day weapon is your vote, and you choose not to use it? Your votes can change you know. If you find vinnie scummy, put a vote on him! Are you worried people will think you are a bandwagoner?
nope, not really concerned with my personal appearance as much as I'm concerned with finding mafia. But I do see your point with your vote = your strongest weapon in the day so I'll cast mine.
[vote]TYG[/vote]
his first post rubs me the wrong way as he's preemptively apologizing for doing nothing wrong. Vinnie's playstyle so far is the same as past games where he was town, and as he always posts with high frequency I think it will be easier to pick out his mistakes. I'd rather put pressure on those who haven't spoken up much so far.
Lol wtf. Based on my opening post at close to 3am? I'm usually pretty active in other games and I plan to be just as active in this game lol. I don't think anyone has ever considered me as an innactive player in previous games.
This post is fluff, (I'm pretty sure that is the correct term, correct me if I'm wrong) as you are only saying what you will do. If you are town, help town! Don't worry about yourself, instead, search out what feels scummy and scumhunt! You really are looking scummy if you can't seem to contribute desire being online.
Racer727 wrote on 01/08/17 at 08:18:08:TvK wrote on 01/08/17 at 08:12:02:Racer727 wrote on 01/08/17 at 08:02:58:DansGame wrote on 01/08/17 at 07:42:00:This is a high power game with a lot of night action potential for affecting the game. I've been thinking about it, but I wonder what other people think: how do people feel about the idea of discussing what night actions should be before they happen?
This should probably be saved for near eod, as it seems to me to be much to early in the game to be discussing actions when three other people haven't checked in, which makes it impossible to get reads on everyone.
Same question to you as I earlier had for Vinnie. You have just checked in for the first time and there are 6 pages of activity. Why do you choose this post to respond to as your opening post? Could you read through the topic and give us all of your thoughts as you read?
I was looking for the first post I could directly quite and answer. For my thoughts, the 42 and Dansgame interaction feels experienced town/experienced town but the only problem with that is that this could also be town/Maf as both are experienced players.
And as for voting, I going with TYG because he hasn't actually contributed yet. [vote]TYG[/vote]
Calls TYG's posts fluff and votes him for not contributing. Has a feeling that the Dan/42 conversation is probably town/town.
Racer727 wrote on 01/08/17 at 08:31:48:Racer727 wrote on 01/08/17 at 08:18:08:TvK wrote on 01/08/17 at 08:12:02:Racer727 wrote on 01/08/17 at 08:02:58:DansGame wrote on 01/08/17 at 07:42:00:This is a high power game with a lot of night action potential for affecting the game. I've been thinking about it, but I wonder what other people think: how do people feel about the idea of discussing what night actions should be before they happen?
This should probably be saved for near eod, as it seems to me to be much to early in the game to be discussing actions when three other people haven't checked in, which makes it impossible to get reads on everyone.
Same question to you as I earlier had for Vinnie. You have just checked in for the first time and there are 6 pages of activity. Why do you choose this post to respond to as your opening post? Could you read through the topic and give us all of your thoughts as you read?
I was looking for the first post I could directly quite and answer. For my thoughts, the 42 and Dansgame interaction feels experienced town/experienced town but the only problem with that is that this could also be town/Maf as both are experienced players.
And as for voting, I going with TYG because he hasn't actually contributed yet. [vote]TYG[/vote]
Wait, I didn't finish this thought, sorry. Vinnie has been acting like his usual self, something I personally push for at the moment, but he certainly not helping his case, TvK and 42 have been coming strong and experienced. TvK has been pushing everything, while 42 has been giving educated reads. I cant gI've them town reads though because they both seem good enough to pull this off as Maf. Web is the only one who feels town to me, because he is playing well and looks a whole lot better in scum hunting then when he was Maf in the game where he claimed town consort.
Gives Web a townread.
Racer727 wrote on 01/08/17 at 08:45:57:Vinnie927 wrote on 01/08/17 at 08:40:46:A lot of people seem to have a townlean on Zac. I'd prefer to wait to see how he reacts first before coming to conclusions.
I don't have a town lean on Zac, what I was trying to say was that Zac plays in a confusing, scummy way, and I feel that pressuring him today isn't the best idea. I voted TYG because he can play well, but is only giving excuses for not playing, and hasn't posted anything of substance yet.
Still waiting for anything substantial from TYG.
Racer727 wrote on 01/08/17 at 15:47:57:Lafungo wrote on 01/08/17 at 11:13:28:Caught up on everything that's been posted so far.
Going after the low-hanging fruit is cool and all, but my main concern this D1 has been 42. His opening really bothered me, especially considering that by his own admission he's an experienced player. As town, I would expect him to lay back at the start to figure out at least the basics of this forum's meta.
Instead he rushed in from the start and tried to assert himself as a discussion leader. To me it felt like the goal of his pressure on Dan was to gain brownie points as an "experienced town", in particular given how long he dragged on his point instead of letting it drop once Dan gave an appropriate explanation (which was meta-dependent and furthers my impression that an experienced town newcomer wouldn't go for the opening 42 did).
42 also claimed that he didn't know anything about this forum's meta, but at the very least he was aware that this forum isn't mafia-centric, and has few games played (as evidenced by the number of threads in the mafia section). That knowledge makes going for early brownie points all the more likely (since it's a strat that would be more effective the less experienced the players here are).
[vote]42[/vote]
You make a good point, as 42 did act a bit scummy. I've said in a few of my posts that it is possible that the Dans/42 exchange is town/Maf. However, the game had just started, and 42 classified himself as a veteran. It was early in the game when he started pushing Dans. I find entirely possible that he was just trying to get the ball rolling. I have a neutral read on him right now, and I'd like to see him post more now that there has been more discussion and accusations on him.
Neutral read on 42.
In his other posts, he calls out Vinnie's scumminess. Not much to go off of here. I don't think Racer was the maf kill, or at least, he wasn't the direct target.
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