TvK wrote on 01/08/17 at 06:59:49:

I did in reply #107:

Web wrote on 01/08/17 at 06:42:02:

I really do not like when people just do not vote because "other stuff can happen in this crapshoot later on" no crap it can, so change your vote accordingly if that's what you want. Actions speak louder than words, you will usually get a better response out of someone if they have 3 votes than if they have no votes but a lot of heat otherwise.

42 wrote on 01/08/17 at 07:01:38:

nope, not really concerned with my personal appearance as much as I'm concerned with finding mafia. But I do see your point with your vote = your strongest weapon in the day so I'll cast mine.

[vote]TYG[/vote]

his first post rubs me the wrong way as he's preemptively apologizing for doing nothing wrong. Vinnie's playstyle so far is the same as past games where he was town, and as he always posts with high frequency I think it will be easier to pick out his mistakes. I'd rather put pressure on those who haven't spoken up much so far.

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[Vote]TYG[/vote]

It makes me feel better about Web that he seems to think TYG looks scummier right now than Vinnie.  Vinnie has played extremely scummily in every game he's been in but has been town every time, so I felt like there's a world where mafia web just keeps tunneling on town Vinnie for a mislynch.  Still suspicious of Web as he seems to me the kind of player who "does enough to stay town, wants to get in an easy town auto-circle" kind of player from the first game I played with him where he was mafia.

However, I would really expect better from TYG than an opening first post like that, so I think there should be pressure on him right now.

I'll need to go back now and start looking more at J-Cop/TvK.  Didn't get much of a read from Zac's posts last night one way or another.

I tried to get Lenny to make an appearance yesterday, but he apparently didn't show up. I'll continue to talk to him about coming on here.

Web wrote on 01/08/17 at 06:15:59:


I was responding to something else (it was going to be memeing about the executioner), then I saw Dan's post in the Topic summary, so I responded to it. My double post was clarification, because I had felt that the first post wasn't clear enough.

Addressing the concern that many people are having about me: The only thing of substance I was online for was the conversation between Dan and 42. I had felt that the (admitedly limited) contributions I had made to the conversation sufficed, but they evidently didn't.

And now, my leans:
thewebinator: My strongest townlean so far, because his contributions are lining up with my suspicions. The fact that he isn't voting for me is only slightly relevant to my lean.
DansGame: His executioner strategy was on questionable foundation, as it depended on less-experienced players not reading the rules. As the majority of posts were based off of this flawed strategy, I feel as if I don't have enough to say about him.
42: The majority of his content has either been asking about the metagame, or accusing me. That seems like mafia to me, but it's not a lead that I plan on pursuing.
TvK: TvK has brought up several great points, and I'm inclined to believe he's town.
J-Cop: He's pretty much only made 6 posts, 3 of which were either joking or useless. Not much I can get from him as of right now.
theyounggun: Definitely the player with the least substance. My strongest maf lean up to this point, due to his seeming inability to progress when there's no one else on. The points that 42 and Dan applied to me are more applicable on tyg.
Zac: I just looked at Zac's posts. They're definitely just as, if not more suspicious than tyg's. I'll wait for them to post again before I say anything else about them.

Of course, the other four need to get on soon. Like I said, I'll try and get Lenny to get on here.

[vote]Zac[/vote]

DansGame wrote on 01/08/17 at 07:42:00:

It sounds like a good idea, but the mafia can easily roleblock or control our actions. Actions such as scanning would need multiple players to scan the same person to confirm that the mafia won't mess with the results.

Just finished page 4 btw

@TvK well once I address everything I see in the thread it's hard to get information without another player.

@42 Not really that experienced, just played a few forum games here.

DansGame wrote on 01/08/17 at 07:42:00:

I think that N1 is going to be chaos regardless of what discussion happens, and informing the mafia of our strategy gives them a greater advantage than they already have. Also if one of the strong players (you, TvK, 42) is mafia and leads the charge on the discussion that only tips the scales more in their favor.

I'd put a pretty strong vote against that proposal.

DansGame wrote on 01/08/17 at 07:56:26:

I might have been a little unclear about TvK, and now that I reread I see that what I wrote was different from what I thought. TvK is always a helpful player, and from my experience it's never a viable option to lynch helpful players on Day 1 unless they slip up. I feel like we should lynch an inexperienced player today.
I found Zac's posts suspicious for the same reason you and several others found tyg's to be suspicious: There wasn't that much substance in them. I'm waiting to see how he responds to these accusations

Web wrote on 01/08/17 at 08:01:27:

Do you think that Dan bringing this up could be a scummy move to try and see how others plan on using their powers?

I meant that it's a good idea except for the fact that the mafia will see everything that we would plan.

Vinnie927 wrote on 01/08/17 at 07:49:29:


This is exactly the point I used to vote you. You even admit it yourself. Why is the only thing you're concerned about trying to contribute just enough to be perceived as town? What do you think the goal of the mafia is in this game? What would you expect a normal town member to do?

Vinnie927 wrote on 01/08/17 at 07:49:29:


Why do you first call TYG your biggest maf lean and then vote Zac? You even refrain from clarifying why you think Zac is scum. Are you afraid of pressuring TYG then? Could you maybe tell us the reasons to vote Zac anyway? And is your scumread of TYG entirely based around the fact that he was able to post when nobody else was around at the same time?