ALAKTORN wrote on 08/14/16 at 16:25:50:

What do you think about PAF's latest posts?

I just wanted to say that while it was going on I just let it be and let TYG defend himself against John (and maybe TvK?), but I thought all throughout John/TvK(?) were being retarded as TYG’s point was obvious about the wagonomics, and I agree with him. The Mafia could be 2 on Leone and 1 on TYG, or with YS on Dan the Mafia could’ve spread out 1–1–1 on the wagons. TYG’s wagon being clean makes little sense.

kyleb30 wrote on 08/14/16 at 16:16:21:


Yeah, because it's not like I actually stayed up late at night and spent hours on reads and arguments with John or anything. I can't decide out of all of your 2 posts which is better, this joke or your excuse for not posting.

kyleb30 wrote on 08/14/16 at 16:30:12:


I highly, highly disagree with you.

I've been townsreading Alaktorn today but you flipping town would be so terrible for town today because of your lack of content.  If you get lynched today and are a mislynch, town only has 1 mislynch left in the event of no medic saves (I think the medic would need to get two saves at this point for there to be two more mislynches available).

Your vote has been on Yoshistar for so long, how come Alaktorn only now decides that you're scummier than Yoshistar after he has been after Yoshistar all day?

Day 2 ends in 1 hour and 40 minutes or when majority is reached. If I happen to be away if/when majority is reached, please stop posting.

iirc racer and ALAK have chalked up most of his actions as newbie town? Is there a connection there?

DansGame wrote on 08/14/16 at 16:53:55:

The biggest worry here is obviously the case of a counterwagon to save YS. That vote by PAF looks terrible, and makes Kyle seem slightly more credible to me.

I have talked about PAF on both D1 and D2 and no one seamed to care. Let's see if something has changed.
[vote]PAF[/vote]

no control wrote on 08/14/16 at 17:03:33:


If you think PAF is mafia then you think he's mafia with Yoshistar trying to save him right?  That means lynch Yoshistar!

PAF makes that vote if he's a terrible, terrible member of town, or if he's Yoshistar's partner.  In what other worlds does he make that vote?

no control wrote on 08/14/16 at 17:06:39:


So what is the world then?  Why else does PAF mafia vote for Kyle unless Yoshistar is his partner?

If we vote PAF and he turns out to be maf.... we get YS nothing more I haven't seen much content from PAF at all

If we vote YS and he turns out to be maf.... we get PAF,  and we can revisit all of Alak's theories on connections between others.

If either of them turn out to be town we get nothing because their posts were weak

Conclusion: If it's between YS and PAF, there's much more info to get out of a YS maf flip so he's the much better lynch imo

DansGame wrote on 08/14/16 at 16:53:55:

Care to show where he townread Kyle so strongly? I only remember him saying Kyle was Town because he pointed out his shitty D1 EoD IIRC, which when I read PAF’s post saying this I thought to myself “attacking noobs on bad posts is easy for Mafia” without actually posting it. Didn’t look at all like a strong Town read to me, and his vote just looks to me like noob Town coming to their senses. Am I missing something you want to show me?

DansGame wrote on 08/14/16 at 17:02:58:

It’s not like I’m against lynching YS. I just had this bad feeling when Kyle voted him, the same kind of bad feeling I had at D1 EoD about Leone. I thought YS/Kyle were m/m, but I don’t understand why Kyle votes YS when TYG is just as likely a wagon to save him. It even felt like Kyle did a 180° with his vote on YS, wasn’t he scum reading TYG far harder than YS?

My vote would still be on YS without Kyle’s, and if it were anybody else other than YS I would probably still have my vote on him regardless. I really can’t see anything but scum in YS, but this Kyle interaction and the fact that he’s really, really stupid worry me. If they’re m/m, it’s a win/win situation anyway.