Leone wrote on 08/12/16 at 01:12:46:TvK took awhile to investigate. ima stick to players w/ lower post counts for a bit then get into the whole Dan/ALAK thing.
John:
Low irregular posting would be suspicious, but this lack of activity was explained before roles were handed out so I'll let it slide.
@#216: Very eager to wagon me. If your logic then is that voting me pressures me, then why not vote Racer/YS, who you implied also seem scummy, to pressure them into doing something? I already had votes on me at that point (not sure how many tho, to be fair, but atleast 2)
@#220: Putting words into YS' mouth there. Popularity of me-wagon=/=playing badly. And yet, you seem to have used that same reasoning of 'jump on the popular wagon' to get on the me-wagon.
@#269: "Because Leone"? I'm almost eager to call that a slip -- "Because easy wagon", more like.
CURRENT CONCLUSION: Moderate maf lean. Way too eager to wagon me.
216: I have 1 weapon in this game, my vote, and I'll be damned if I'm not going to use it. You were the person I *most* wanted to hear from and the person who seemed most scummy to me at that time, so why would I put my vote anywhere else?
220: The comment on YS was the idea of him trying to give himself an out for changing vote later. There's no need for that - if you want to change your vote, do so and provide reasoning for it. Don't just say "here's my vote but I'll probably change it since I'm not probably not on the *right* person" - implies lack of independent thought in terms of who to vote for.
269: It was the correct answer to the question, not sure what the issue is here. TvK had already posted why he was voting for you, and that was clearly not going to change at least until you posted something - therefore it was a stupid/unnecessary question.
It sound like you're getting a scumread from me simply for voting you. That's not how this game works, and you also fail to apply that same reasoning to TYG ("he wagoned on me, neutral or slight town lean" wtf is this).
@318: At this point, I still think you (Leone) are the most informative lynch. In my eyes, this "investigation" of me was nothing more than "you voted me, must be scum" and you, along with everyone else, should know that's just bad play. Also, since it looks like I'm so scummy to you, where's your vote on me? Or on anyone, for that matter?
TvK wrote on 08/12/16 at 05:36:47:johnboy81918 wrote on 08/11/16 at 11:08:31:Still at work, no time for huge analysis, but a couple of my first thoughts:
Racer - seems to be trying to build town cred (somebody else pointed this out I think?), rather than scumhunt
Leone - don't like that he starts talking bussing in his first post, then claims possible misread
TvK - seems to be playing his usual style...asks a lot of questions but for some reason gets very few directed at him
Dan/Michele - this situation is strange. clearly 2 different playstyles that disagree with each other, but I don't understand some of Michele's logic here: puts pressure on Dan because Dan put pressure on a newbie, that's all well and good...but then getting a scumread because Dan acted defensive when pressure was put on him? this isn't a defense of Dan, but Michele gave him a scumread for acting both retaliatory and defensive when pressured. wtf is he supposed to do, nothing?
Not a lot to go on yet besides Dan/Michele situation, will comment more after work.
John, how did your reads evolve since this post? And I have another question: for which one of the low posters do you feel like they're deliberately trying to hide something? And to add to that: how many maf members do you think there are in the people with fewer than 20 posts? So far, you've been adamant on going after Leone, so what does it mean to you that people are switching over to Dan? Is this a counterwagon driven by mafia?
Out of the people I specifically mentioned here:
Racer - has definitely sounded more townie-like since that time. Is it coaching or is he starting to learn how to play? Currently leaning toward the latter, especially if he continues in this manner.
Leone - currently my biggest scumread. Addressed how I feel about him earlier this post.
TvK - nothing changed much here, you are definitely acting like town but I also believe that you could play this way if you were maf.
Dan/Michele - I addressed this again later, out of these 2 I think Michele is more likely maf than Dan. Highly unlikely m/m pair.
Others:
Zoran - doing his usual thing, only other person besides me who didn't like the Michele side of the Michele/Dan argument. Thinking he's town.
Timur - jumped in firing at Dan, at least he's seeming to do some active scumhunting with his content/tone of posts. Townie behavior, even if I disagree with his read on Dan atm.
Sportsguy - don't like his "style of play" if that's what he's gonna call it. It's an unhelpful style to town no matter which alignment he is. I'm not sure he's posted anything of substance other than saying "this is how I play, deal with it" or "d1 is random" or something similar.
I can't say the wagon on Dan is "driven" by maf since YS currently has the oldest vote on said wagon (I think)...but this tricycle seems misled imo. I still haven't liked anything YS has had to say, he's either maf or useless town.
Anyone else have anything they'd like me to address?
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