Leone wrote on 08/12/16 at 00:57:03:Ok, let's break down player interactions one at a time. I'll start with TvK.
-Before looking at post substance: TvK was online for the majority of the day today, yet if you observe his posting pattern on mafiashock.cgi there are substantial gaps where he was online but not posting. This, as observed in previous maf games' stats, is characteristic of a frequently-posting maf member.
Correct. I haven't been posting at all time. But when I do, I do try to address every post made between that point and my last post. I'm also a player who reads, re-reads and re-re-reads and I won't make quick uninformed posts. And I'm watching the Olympics all evening. I can't risk being in the middle of a post when Phelps grabs his 22nd gold.
Leone wrote on 08/12/16 at 00:57:03:-Response to #116: Don't confuse my reads back then with a false dichotomy of "fully maf vs fully town"; why ask the question in that framing? I'm basically just now actually starting to play.
I believe that using extremes in my questions (fully town, def maf), because it will give me much stronger reactions in return. I definitely use these kind of wordings when talking to people who I don't have a clear picture of. I think my question was justified, because I would expect you to be a lot more cautious with your vote in general. Heck, now that you've actually started to do an analysis of everyone, you still haven't voted. I actually thought you had quite a strong lean on ALAK when you put down that vote, so it surprised me that you backed down from it so quickly.
Leone wrote on 08/12/16 at 00:57:03:-Pressures a bunch of other people then comes out of the blue with a vote for me without first giving chance to have meaningful conversation. Seems weird is all, given previous post context. Heck, even mentioned four posts earlier he thought Racer & PAF seemed like maf. However, TvK starting the wagon rather than joining an existing one is a positive imo.
Wagoning is great. Wagoning gives us tons of material to analyse. And I love analysis. Anyway, PAF and Racer were active at the time and I believe I'm skilled enough to get a solid read out of them by asking them questions and keeping an eye on their general behavior.
Leone wrote on 08/12/16 at 00:57:03:-TvK, what are your thoughts on Dan if we're t/t or m/t (where he's maf)? And in these cases would a Dan or me lynch be more useful to town, and why?
I can answer this question with my post above.
Leone wrote on 08/12/16 at 00:57:03:@#185: D1 is day-end lynch regardless. Someone getting to 7 doesn't mean the end. I'd think you would know this; perhaps waiting for someone to seem more scummy for a more confident wagon? Especially with the mention that not everyone has posted yet?
I suck at reading rules, it seems. Shock wasn't pleased with me. This one was a mistake entirely on my part.
Leone wrote on 08/12/16 at 00:57:03:@#198: Why divert attention to me/Racer instead of, and not in addition to, YS? Feels like you're defending YS here at first glance.
I've burned myself twice before while putting the heat on YS. At this point his posting had been very similar to what we're used to see from him. My comments to Kyle were made to make sure that he won't take the easy road this game. It's easy to find scummy things in YS's posts, but at this point I have no reason to believe that YS has a higher chance of being scum than some others. I thought Kyle was taking the easy road when he started pointing out YS's bullshit. That's something I would expect scum to do.
Leone wrote on 08/12/16 at 00:57:03:@#213: [first bloc on me] See response on #89. [second bloc on me] Why is "I likely misread" a maf thing to say? I reversed from my ALAK vote because I realized my first post was bad, due to a lack of availability to create a nuanced breakdown of the interactions at the time.
Because it's such an easy way to undo something. You know well enough that this game is all about details. You can't just come in and make an uninformed post with even a vote attached to it. When you vote, I expect you to have thought about it carefully.
Leone wrote on 08/12/16 at 00:57:03:@#241: Your post quantity isn't what gets me, it's the irregular periodicity of your posts, coupled with your being online all day. That in itself seems scummy. (Also, you're very eager to point out 36th post, like you know inactives usually look like maf and you're trying to fiercely avoid that.) And no, ik you're posting scumhunting material, but you've been reluctant to go after a few yourself, such as ALAK. (Yes Dan unloaded on him & vice versa but their argument was going in circles by this point.)
@#262: Again seem eager to point out you're in top3 posters.
I was baffled by the fact that you put me in the same category as Zoran and Sportsguy, who had been incredibly quiet at that point.
Leone wrote on 08/12/16 at 00:57:03:@#276: Again, reluctant to go into the weeds on (and by proxy, take heat from) Alaktorn
Why do you want me to scumread ALAK? I'm very unhappy that Dan and ALAK have spent a great deal of the day arguing with eachother, because it became clear quite soon to me that we were probably looking at a town-town discussion. Heck, all day long I've tried to ask questions to other people, trying to steer the conversation away from Dan and ALAK. Do you read this as me being careful to not draw the spotlight? Fine. My main concern is that too many people can wait in the shadows while Dan and ALAK are ripping eachother apart. I can't let that happen. [/quote]
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